Bledisloe II

jegga

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mariner4life

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Chester Draws

@chester-draws said in Bledisloe II:

The Springboks regularly pick no true openside and seem to get away with it.

Really? Are you sure you're not just getting confused by their openside wearing 6? Louw is definitely an openside, where does van Staden usually play?

I didn't say always.

If there's a good big true openside, they'll play him. If there's a smaller one, Kwagga Smith, they'll happily play a body shape we would have at blindside.

I reckon Fifita would be told to go away and practice as openside in SA. He wouldn't come close to locking.

I think they're wrong, but it's how they mostly operate.

kiwiinmelb

@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:

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@no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:

@kiwimurph said in Bledisloe II:

@no-quarter Agreed but with Hooper captain and being paid so many $ they are forced into starting him.

Yeah, it's a pretty ridiculous situation they've got themselves into there.

Holy hell Folau on $2.2m? Like fuck he's worth even half of that.

How can they justify paying him that much? That's more than 1 million more than his captain! No wonder he's in no hurry to return to League.

it shows how desperate they are , to us kiwis he is seen as a bit over rated ,

But to them he is their biggest star , someone to pin their hopes on

I think they're also desperate to get League eyeballs. Maybe Leagies will watch games for Folau like we used to watch league games just for Inga (well me anyway)? They've also got no other marketable players. James O'Connor had enormous potential but we know how that went... That kid must have lost millions.

But that salary is obscene. I can't see how they could possibly get a ROI from that.

just exposure in general , Folou is the main name in there that non rugby people have heard of ,

Also well known in AFL circles because of his money grab in that code , it was big news at the time .

Bones

@chester-draws no you said regularly. I don't see it regularly at all. I wouldn't call Louw big either.

Chester Draws

Schalk Burger got 86 caps. He's quite a lot bigger than Liam Messam and about Liam Squire sized.

And some of their selections were less mobile than that.

They do seem in recent times to have accepted smaller men though. For a large size of "smaller".

broughie

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Bones

@chester-draws eh? Schalk was up against McCaw a lot and seemed remarkably similar in size. I'm sure I remarked on it at least once.

Machpants

@antipodean said in Bledisloe II:

So we're agreed this will be the backline:
9. A Smith
10. Beaudy
11. Naholo
12. SBW.
13. Goodhue.
14. B Smith
15. Jordie.

Bench will be TJP, DMac, ALB.

SBW training with the team does not mean ready to play, see Dane Coles (who went to Ozzie with less than zero chance to play)

Replace SBW with Laumape is what I think will happen. But just a total guess, as always.

Tim

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/106451988/all-blacks-ecstatic-with-anton-lienertbrown-as-their-midfield-problemsolver

Machpants

EDIT: Ninja'd!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/106451988/All-Blacks-ecstatic-with-Anton-Lienert-Brown-as-their-midfield-problem-solver

Probably a pointer that I'm talking arse again.

mariner4life

@tim praise the lawd

No Quarter

@antipodean said in Bledisloe II:

So we're agreed this will be the backline:
9. A Smith
10. Beaudy
11. Naholo
12. SBW.
13. Goodhue.
14. B Smith
15. Jordie.

Bench will be TJP, DMac, ALB.

That's pretty much it except ALB starting and Laumape or SBW on the bench - don't think they'll rush SBW back in.

antipodean

Yeah my presumption is SBW is fit. If fit, they'll start him.

taniwharugby

@rancid-schnitzel maybe they pay him more cos they know Qantas aint gonna be giving him any endorsements...

@antipodean yep, if fit, we know they will start SBW.

MiketheSnow

@no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:

Wallabies would be better to start Pocock and have Hooper on the bench to up the anti in the final 20. Like Ardie I don't think he's big/physical enough but could be effective against tired legs.

Looked to me that Hooper was more effective in taking the ball forward than Pocock and similar in defence.

Canes4life

@tim @tim Defensively Aso has too much to work on at centre. As a Canes fan I'm very suprised Aso has been given a look before Proctor. For me Proctor is the most important cog in the Canes backline and it wasn't a coincidence that we turned to shit after he injured himself this year. Same thing happened in 2016, once Proctor injured himself we didn't look the same then either.

taniwharugby

@mikethesnow Pocock has always been a bit average at all facets bar his strength over the ball

No Quarter

@mikethesnow said in Bledisloe II:

@no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:

Wallabies would be better to start Pocock and have Hooper on the bench to up the anti in the final 20. Like Ardie I don't think he's big/physical enough but could be effective against tired legs.

Looked to me that Hooper was more effective in taking the ball forward than Pocock and similar in defence.

If both are in the 23 then Pocock really has to start as I can't see him making much of an impact from the bench.

Both players are vastly overrated.

Wreck Diver

SBW is not fit he wont be on the bench or start. Foster said that they were please with the way NMS played for Manawatu on Saturday he gets the wing spot IMO. Smith remains at full back. Mid field will be the same ALB & Goodhue. Laumape on the bench with DMac.

The Silver Fern

Bledisloe II