Bledisloe II
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
I just had a look on TAB but they dont seem to have put odds up yet for Franks to score 'a' try, might be worth a dollar or 2, if it blows out might be a sentimental pass to him over the tryline for him to fumble...
I reckon that 'fumble' will be on purpose too - has to keep his record and reputation intact.
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
I just had a look on TAB but they dont seem to have put odds up yet for Franks to score 'a' try, might be worth a dollar or 2, if it blows out might be a sentimental pass to him over the tryline for him to fumble...
I reckon that 'fumble' will be on purpose too - has to keep his record and reputation intact.
rugby's Geoff Allott
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@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe II:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
@mariner4life maybe they have been reading all your posts moaning about how predictable the squads have been and how boring it is
it's really nice to have something to bitch about. The player drain is finally having a positive benefit. And it's taking the heat of some other bench players...
I agree, but you should join me on the Tongan Frizell train, Laumape is good enough to be AB and plays enough to be an AB, and has been in the squad on merit before.
Frizzel Fry can't even make the team. Waste of energy railing against a dude holding hit shields. What we really need is for someone to completely shit the bed in a test. It's been a while now.
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe II:
What we really need is for someone to completely shit the bed in a test. It's been a while now.
Naholo's playing this weekend isn't he?
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Qantas Wallabies team to play New Zealand at Eden Park, Auckland on Saturday 25 August, 5.35pm AEST
- Scott Sio (46 Tests)
- Tatafu Polota-Nau (83 Tests)
- Allan Alaalatoa (24 Tests)
- Izack Rodda (8 Tests)
- Adam Coleman (24 Tests)
- Lukhan Tui (8 Tests)
- Michael Hooper (c) (83 Tests)
- David Pocock (70 Tests)
- Will Genia (91 Tests)
- Bernard Foley (59 Tests)
- Marika Koroibete (12 Tests)
- Kurtley Beale (75 Tests)
- Reece Hodge (28 Tests)
- Jack Maddocks (1 Test)
- Dane Haylett-Petty (22 Tests)
Finishers
16. Folau Faingaa*
17. Tom Robertson (22 Tests)
18. Sekope Kepu (95 Tests)
19. Rob Simmons (86 Tests)
20. Pete Samu (4 Tests)
21. Nick Phipps (65 Tests)
22. Matt Toomua (34 Tests)
23. Tom Banks*
*denotes uncappedhttp://www.rugby.com.au/News/2018/08/22/Bledisloe-Cup-Auckland-Wallabies-team-announcement
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Qantas Wallabies team to play New Zealand at Eden Park, Auckland on Saturday 25 August, 5.35pm AEST
- Scott Sio (46 Tests)
- Tatafu Polota-Nau (83 Tests)
- Allan Alaalatoa (24 Tests)
- Izack Rodda (8 Tests)
- Adam Coleman (24 Tests)
- Lukhan Tui (8 Tests)
- Michael Hooper (c) (83 Tests)
- David Pocock (70 Tests)
- Will Genia (91 Tests)
- Bernard Foley (59 Tests)
- Marika Koroibete (12 Tests)
- Kurtley Beale (75 Tests)
- Reece Hodge (28 Tests)
- Jack Maddocks (1 Test)
- Dane Haylett-Petty (22 Tests)
Finishers
16. Folau Faingaa*
17. Tom Robertson (22 Tests)
18. Sekope Kepu (95 Tests)
19. Rob Simmons (86 Tests)
20. Pete Samu (4 Tests)
21. Nick Phipps (65 Tests)
22. Matt Toomua (34 Tests)
23. Tom Banks*
*denotes uncappedhttp://www.rugby.com.au/News/2018/08/22/Bledisloe-Cup-Auckland-Wallabies-team-announcement
@kiwimurph Opportunity for redemption?
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No Arnold yet again which I don't understand. Maddocks is overrated and the bench hardly looks threatening.
Am expecting a stronger Wallaby showing this week as it was clear that Genia, Hooper and TPN were lacking match fitness last week, but the ABs should also be a lot better after a fairly scratchy performance in Sydney.
Can't see the Wallabies beating this AB team. NZ by 15- 20.
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@kiwimurph Opportunity for redemption?
@antipodean You would think a back three of 11. Maddocks 14. Haylett-Petty & 15. Banks would be better suited to defuse the All Blacks attack. Koroibete has plenty of gas but always seems to find his way out of position. He could also be more of a weapon coming off the bench.
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No Arnold yet again which I don't understand. Maddocks is overrated and the bench hardly looks threatening.
Am expecting a stronger Wallaby showing this week as it was clear that Genia, Hooper and TPN were lacking match fitness last week, but the ABs should also be a lot better after a fairly scratchy performance in Sydney.
Can't see the Wallabies beating this AB team. NZ by 15- 20.
@akan004 said in Bledisloe II:
No Arnlod yet again which I don't understand. Maddocks is overrated and the bench hardly looks threatening.
Arnold doesn't call lineouts which means he has to stay on the field for 80mins.
Maddocks is just a winger with the ignorant arrogance of youth; "what Eden Park hoodoo?" The one you're about to be part of matey.
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I just had a look on TAB but they dont seem to have put odds up yet for Franks to score 'a' try, might be worth a dollar or 2, if it blows out might be a sentimental pass to him over the tryline for him to fumble...
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
I just had a look on TAB but they dont seem to have put odds up yet for Franks to score 'a' try, might be worth a dollar or 2, if it blows out might be a sentimental pass to him over the tryline for him to fumble...
Who was that prop the Poms had in 2013 who kept dropping the ball? Every time it came near him he freaked out. It was like someone was throwing a bomb at him.
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I don't really see the big problem. The specialist 12 starts at 12 whilst the very effective bench player who covers 12-13 is on the bench covering 12 and 13?
In modern rugby the bench is very important and ALB made a very strong case last weekend that he is perfectly suited to the 23 shirt for the big AB games moving forward.
With SBW due back next game the pressure is on Laumape to perform. And if he does, the pressure will be on SBW.
@kiwimurph Dont get the logic there. So ALB has a good game off the bench so he is a natural 23. I guess I am not sold of Laumape and see no reason why a player who perform well coming off the bench can not assume the starting position. Will maybe Laumape will show me that he is more than a direct runner.
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@bovidae said in Bledisloe II:
@taniwharugby Injury was not a factor according to the Stuff article.
"We wanted a specialist second five," explained Hansen. "Alby (Lienert-Brown) has been playing a lot of his rugby at 13. Whilst we're very happy with his performance [in Sydney], we love what he does for us off the bench.
"He brings a security, a sense of understanding of what's needed in that area and Ngani is more of a starting-type player. It just made sense."
Yep nice one Shag. You may as well put the NH contact under ALB's fucken nose yourself. You could have equally said: "We didn't pick Ngani in the initial squad and wanted him instead to go away and work on his communication, which he's done for an entire game. Alby was outstanding for us at 12 in Bledisloe 1 in what was virtually a starting role but despite that we've brought Ngani straight back in ahead of him".
@shark said in Bledisloe II:
@bovidae said in Bledisloe II:
@taniwharugby Injury was not a factor according to the Stuff article.
"We wanted a specialist second five," explained Hansen. "Alby (Lienert-Brown) has been playing a lot of his rugby at 13. Whilst we're very happy with his performance [in Sydney], we love what he does for us off the bench.
"He brings a security, a sense of understanding of what's needed in that area and Ngani is more of a starting-type player. It just made sense."
Yep nice one Shag. You may as well put the NH contact under ALB's fucken nose yourself. You could have equally said: "We didn't pick Ngani in the initial squad and wanted him instead to go away and work on his communication, which he's done for an entire game. Alby was outstanding for us at 12 in Bledisloe 1 in what was virtually a starting role but despite that we've brought Ngani straight back in ahead of him".
ALB, Laumape and Goodhue would have to be the three blind mice if they can't see that SBW and Crotty are just hanging on for next year's RWC and then the field is open for them to fight out who sits on the bench.
Given the rate at which the first two are accruing injuries, it will be pretty surprising if all three of these guys don't get to the RWC and probably play in whatever knockout matches we participate in.
This one is throwing Laumape a bone while they can. When SBW comes back, NL will have to head back to Mitre 10 Cup - unless they decide to put Crotty in cotton wool for the rest of the year, which isn't a bad idea.
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Good to see the gloves come off a bit this week.
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@stargazer See, when Steve explains it, it almost makes sense.
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@kiwimurph Dont get the logic there. So ALB has a good game off the bench so he is a natural 23. I guess I am not sold of Laumape and see no reason why a player who perform well coming off the bench can not assume the starting position. Will maybe Laumape will show me that he is more than a direct runner.
@broughie If you are looking for evidence just watch a replay of the Hurricanes vs Chiefs quarter final this year. Laumape blew Ngatai and ALB off the park and shut down everything they threw at him. He is far from one dimensional and your comment probably suggests you haven't watched any Hurricanes games this year. There was a reason he was named Canes player of the year - he has been brilliant and probably deserves an opportunity more than ALB.
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Half the forum will have to say "I was wrong" after the match on Saturday
Will it be those who think Laumape is a one-dimensional battering ram...
...or those who think Laumape is a bit better than that?
Humble in victory, gracious in defeat - let's see which poster have the goods...
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Half the forum will have to say "I was wrong" after the match on Saturday
Will it be those who think Laumape is a one-dimensional battering ram...
...or those who think Laumape is a bit better than that?
Humble in victory, gracious in defeat - let's see which poster have the goods...
@billy-tell said in Bledisloe II:
Half the forum will have to say "I was wrong" after the match on Saturday
Will it be those who think Laumape is a one-dimensional battering ram...
...or those who think Laumape is a bit better than that?
Humble in victory, gracious in defeat - let's see which poster have the goods...
what about those of us who think Laumape is more than a one-dimensional battering ram, but that ALB is still a better player? How will that be proven on Saturday?
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Hansen is being a little precious over the Whitelock presentation. If someone looked back when the other centurions were presented with their caps, not all the opposition players would have stayed on the field either. But I'm sure there will be more than 4 Wallabies out there on Sat night.
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@billy-tell said in Bledisloe II:
Half the forum will have to say "I was wrong" after the match on Saturday
Will it be those who think Laumape is a one-dimensional battering ram...
...or those who think Laumape is a bit better than that?
Humble in victory, gracious in defeat - let's see which poster have the goods...
what about those of us who think Laumape is more than a one-dimensional battering ram, but that ALB is still a better player? How will that be proven on Saturday?
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe II:
@billy-tell said in Bledisloe II:
Half the forum will have to say "I was wrong" after the match on Saturday
Will it be those who think Laumape is a one-dimensional battering ram...
...or those who think Laumape is a bit better than that?
Humble in victory, gracious in defeat - let's see which poster have the goods...
what about those of us who think Laumape is more than a one-dimensional battering ram, but that ALB is still a better player? How will that be proven on Saturday?
I suspect you'll have to wait a little bit longer there lad.
Only a fool would use 1 single game to decide that sort of question. ALB has a heap more tests than Laumape, so that would be comparing apples and pears.
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe II:
@billy-tell said in Bledisloe II:
Half the forum will have to say "I was wrong" after the match on Saturday
Will it be those who think Laumape is a one-dimensional battering ram...
...or those who think Laumape is a bit better than that?
Humble in victory, gracious in defeat - let's see which poster have the goods...
what about those of us who think Laumape is more than a one-dimensional battering ram, but that ALB is still a better player? How will that be proven on Saturday?
I suspect you'll have to wait a little bit longer there lad.
Only a fool would use 1 single game to decide that sort of question. ALB has a heap more tests than Laumape, so that would be comparing apples and pears.
@billy-tell said in Bledisloe II:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe II:
@billy-tell said in Bledisloe II:
Half the forum will have to say "I was wrong" after the match on Saturday
Will it be those who think Laumape is a one-dimensional battering ram...
...or those who think Laumape is a bit better than that?
Humble in victory, gracious in defeat - let's see which poster have the goods...
what about those of us who think Laumape is more than a one-dimensional battering ram, but that ALB is still a better player? How will that be proven on Saturday?
I suspect you'll have to wait a little bit longer there lad.
Only a fool would use 1 single game to decide that sort of question. ALB has a heap more tests than Laumape, so that would be comparing apples and pears.
so your earlier post was all bullshit then? okay, cleared up.
