Bledisloe II
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Does anyone else feel a bit sorry for the Wallabies? They played pretty well tonight, but they were just outclassed by a much better team.
They're just so far off the pace that I am starting to think it is becoming unhealthy.
@damo said in Bledisloe II:
Does anyone else feel a bit sorry for the Wallabies?
No
They played pretty well tonight, but they were just outclassed by a much better team.
They're just so far off the pace that I am starting to think it is becoming unhealthy.
Yep
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Thumping win, but I don’t think the ABs will be thrilled with that performance.
Plenty of dropped balls early on, strange how they all seemed to be dropped bullet passes which bounced away at a million miles an hour.
They also won’t be happy with the soft defence on the 2 Aussie tries.
Harris has to go, our lineout falls apart when he comes on. Time for Coltman to have a go.That said, I always had the feeling that once we stopped dropping the ball we’d put plenty of points on the board, and we did score some great tries.
Any time the ABs thump Aussie it’s a great day.BB and BBBR again both outstanding.
Well done Owen Franks on the 100 games.
@gunner said in Bledisloe II:
Harris has to go, our lineout falls apart when he comes on. Time for Coltman to have a go.
Our lineout had some shakes when Taylor was still on (although according to Horan it was Coles). Seemed to be when we were throwing long. Tough throw to make
But I agree with the general sentiment. Finding the next hooker is a priority.
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@bones said in Bledisloe II:
I'm interested in how he doesn't make others better.
An unsympathetic shovel pass mostly.
Also he doesn't stand flat to the line like Carter and Cruden did, so he doesn't pose the same defensive quandaries, which makes it easier to mark the 2nd-five.
Beauden's at his best in space, attacking from the back on counter and when defenses tire. Back lines outside him seem to struggle to penetrate organised back lines, like the Lions or Crusaders. Or not tired Aussies, for that matter.
The ABs seem to be working around this by trying to ensure oppositions always tire enough. I suspect cannier teams than Australia will pace themselves better.
@chester-draws said in Bledisloe II:
Also he doesn't stand flat to the line like Carter and Cruden did, so he doesn't pose the same defensive quandaries, which makes it easier to mark the 2nd-five.
Beauden's at his best in space, attacking from the back on counter and when defenses tire. Back lines outside him seem to struggle to penetrate organised back lines, like the Lions or Crusaders. Or not tired Aussies, for that matter.
The ABs seem to be working around this by trying to ensure oppositions always tire enough. I suspect cannier teams than Australia will pace themselves better.
To be fair though at test level he has had a constant rotation in the midfield for the past three years. If he had a hard running, flat passing 12 like Nonu who could stay fit I suspect there would be a lot more direction to things.
I still stand by what I said after the last match - aside from his A+ speed and anticipation in attack he isn't much as a 10, but jeez when he gets to use those skills he is ethereal. It's just those one or two tests a year when the play doesn't break up and all you are left with iffy defence and poor goalkicking.
As for all the articles saying "proved he is still the best in the world" did they miss Rettalick again tonight? The guy is special.
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So are all the people that were bitching about Barrett last week, are you satisfied or do you still want to drop him?
@wreck-diver said in Bledisloe II:
So are all the people that were bitching about Barrett last week, are you satisfied or do you still want to drop him?
Drop him. Start Marty MacKenzie. Might make it closer.
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe II:
I wonder if Rugby Australia still thinks 6 Million for Hooper is a wise investment.
After watching the press conference he had to front $6 million seems fair.
The job primarily involves dealing with Cheika and Aussie Journos - I'd want at least $750k per year.
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe II:
I wonder if Rugby Australia still thinks 6 Million for Hooper is a wise investment.
After watching the press conference he had to front $6 million seems fair.
The job primarily involves dealing with Cheika and Aussie Journos - I'd want at least $750k per year.
@rotated said in Bledisloe II:
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe II:
I wonder if Rugby Australia still thinks 6 Million for Hooper is a wise investment.
After watching the press conference he had to front $6 million seems fair.
The job primarily involves dealing with Cheika and Aussie Journos - I'd want at least $750k per year.
I get the logic there but watching that presser he was lucky to get paid at all.
He sits there squirming and looking sour while Cheika looks for a fight then when he finally talks, repeats whatever the boss says. -
@gunner said in Bledisloe II:
Harris has to go, our lineout falls apart when he comes on. Time for Coltman to have a go.
Our lineout had some shakes when Taylor was still on (although according to Horan it was Coles). Seemed to be when we were throwing long. Tough throw to make
But I agree with the general sentiment. Finding the next hooker is a priority.
@booboo said in Bledisloe II:
@gunner said in Bledisloe II:
Harris has to go, our lineout falls apart when he comes on. Time for Coltman to have a go.
Our lineout had some shakes when Taylor was still on (although according to Horan it was Coles). Seemed to be when we were throwing long. Tough throw to make
But I agree with the general sentiment. Finding the next hooker is a priority.
Well ot can be Coles' fault, if he wasn't injured....
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@gunner said in Bledisloe II:
Harris has to go, our lineout falls apart when he comes on. Time for Coltman to have a go.
Our lineout had some shakes when Taylor was still on (although according to Horan it was Coles). Seemed to be when we were throwing long. Tough throw to make
But I agree with the general sentiment. Finding the next hooker is a priority.
@booboo said in Bledisloe II:
@gunner said in Bledisloe II:
But I agree with the general sentiment. Finding the next hooker is a priority.
I’m in Amsterdam tonight. I understand there are a few here. What’s the criteria?
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@gunner said in Bledisloe II:
Harris has to go, our lineout falls apart when he comes on. Time for Coltman to have a go.
Our lineout had some shakes when Taylor was still on (although according to Horan it was Coles). Seemed to be when we were throwing long. Tough throw to make
But I agree with the general sentiment. Finding the next hooker is a priority.
@booboo said in Bledisloe II:
@gunner said in Bledisloe II:
Harris has to go, our lineout falls apart when he comes on. Time for Coltman to have a go.
Our lineout had some shakes when Taylor was still on (although according to Horan it was Coles). Seemed to be when we were throwing long. Tough throw to make
But I agree with the general sentiment. Finding the next hooker is a priority.
Makalio ?
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"You look at the match-ups tonight of players and I'm keeping all our players, I'm not swapping anyone," Hooper said
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@booboo said in Bledisloe II:
@gunner said in Bledisloe II:
Harris has to go, our lineout falls apart when he comes on. Time for Coltman to have a go.
Our lineout had some shakes when Taylor was still on (although according to Horan it was Coles). Seemed to be when we were throwing long. Tough throw to make
But I agree with the general sentiment. Finding the next hooker is a priority.
Makalio ?
@cgrant said in Bledisloe II:
@booboo said in Bledisloe II:
@gunner said in Bledisloe II:
Harris has to go, our lineout falls apart when he comes on. Time for Coltman to have a go.
Our lineout had some shakes when Taylor was still on (although according to Horan it was Coles). Seemed to be when we were throwing long. Tough throw to make
But I agree with the general sentiment. Finding the next hooker is a priority.
Makalio ?
Worth a crack
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Krustys furious apparently . I reckon what he needs to kickstart the wallabies is a catchy slogan for the boys , something like "Make Australia Great Again" or abbreviate it to " MAGA" when they put it on hats for supporters. That should help their profile over there.
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I remember when these annual tournaments started ,the theory was , it was supposed to be good for the wallabies to be playing us so regularly ,
Right now , im not so convinced playing us so often is good for them ,
Its demoralising
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I remember when these annual tournaments started ,the theory was , it was supposed to be good for the wallabies to be playing us so regularly ,
Right now , im not so convinced playing us so often is good for them ,
Its demoralising
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe II:
I remember when these annual tournaments started ,the theory was , it was supposed to be good for the wallabies to be playing us so regularly ,
Right now , im not so convinced playing us so often is good for them ,
Its demoralising
You say that like its a bad thing.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe II:
I remember when these annual tournaments started ,the theory was , it was supposed to be good for the wallabies to be playing us so regularly ,
Right now , im not so convinced playing us so often is good for them ,
Its demoralising
You say that like its a bad thing.
@jegga said in Bledisloe II:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe II:
I remember when these annual tournaments started ,the theory was , it was supposed to be good for the wallabies to be playing us so regularly ,
Right now , im not so convinced playing us so often is good for them ,
Its demoralising
You say that like its a bad thing.
@jegga said in Bledisloe II:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe II:
I remember when these annual tournaments started ,the theory was , it was supposed to be good for the wallabies to be playing us so regularly ,
Right now , im not so convinced playing us so often is good for them ,
Its demoralising
You say that like its a bad thing.
Yup anyone who feels the slightest pang of guilt or pity should be made to watch all games from 1998 - 2002... multiple times
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@jegga said in Bledisloe II:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe II:
I remember when these annual tournaments started ,the theory was , it was supposed to be good for the wallabies to be playing us so regularly ,
Right now , im not so convinced playing us so often is good for them ,
Its demoralising
You say that like its a bad thing.
@jegga said in Bledisloe II:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe II:
I remember when these annual tournaments started ,the theory was , it was supposed to be good for the wallabies to be playing us so regularly ,
Right now , im not so convinced playing us so often is good for them ,
Its demoralising
You say that like its a bad thing.
Yup anyone who feels the slightest pang of guilt or pity should be made to watch all games from 1998 - 2002... multiple times
@virgil said in Bledisloe II:
@jegga said in Bledisloe II:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe II:
I remember when these annual tournaments started ,the theory was , it was supposed to be good for the wallabies to be playing us so regularly ,
Right now , im not so convinced playing us so often is good for them ,
Its demoralising
You say that like its a bad thing.
@jegga said in Bledisloe II:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe II:
I remember when these annual tournaments started ,the theory was , it was supposed to be good for the wallabies to be playing us so regularly ,
Right now , im not so convinced playing us so often is good for them ,
Its demoralising
You say that like its a bad thing.
Yup anyone who feels the slightest pang of guilt or pity should be made to watch all games from 1998 - 2002... multiple times
A photo of John O'Neill holding the Bledisloe is all I need .
