Bledisloe II
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@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
Beauden
He'll be on NZ$1M+ I'd imagine, and our tax rates are lower than the UK, Ireland, or France.
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@chris-b who is the ready made replacement for Todd? Some good young guys on the fringes, oozing potebtial, but we have some games likely without Cane or Todd coming up.
@taniwharugby Sam Cane - he's only 26.
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@tim Exactly - how much money does he need?!!
He'll be financially set for life if he doesn't do anything stupid - and if you do something stupid no amount is enough.
@chris-b he could sponge off his brothers, surely they couldnt all be stupid with money
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@chris-b he could sponge off his brothers, surely they couldnt all be stupid with money
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b he could sponge off his brothers, surely they couldnt all be stupid with money
Not after the way Mrs. Barrett has chucked those others out of their bedrooms so that Beauden has somewhere to put his shoes!
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@steven-harris said in Bledisloe II:
@mariner4life but you know what,they actually don’t too badly at rugby world cups..
My question to you is,.how good will we be after all these several greats we have move on..?I hope we won't have to panic too much about immediate departures after RWC2019. Frankly, I don't see any need for the likes of Beauden, Brodie, Sam or Owen to be buggering off overseas at that point and will hold it against them if they do. They are still relatively young men and still have much to contribute to the ABs.
For forwards, I think age 32 is probably about the time to start thinking about a departure - for backs, probably when you start to be pushed out a la Dagg and Savea.
Guys who will have done their time and can leave with my blessing include Read, Todd, SBW, Crotty and BFA. And we've got pretty much ready made replacements for these guys other than Read - and hopefully Coventry is going to wave a magic wand and conjure up that guy!
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@chris-b Hmmm, so three Crusaders, an ex Crusader, and a South Islander can go off and make their millions or retire in the sun with your blessing but you're forcing three North Islanders to remain in indentured servitude.
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b Hmmm, so three Crusaders, an ex Crusader, and a South Islander can go off and make their millions or retire in the sun with your blessing but you're forcing three North Islanders to remain in indentured servitude.
I thought you guys would still want to have a couple of All Blacks?
We can install ACT in Shand's job, if you're not fussed!
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@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b Hmmm, so three Crusaders, an ex Crusader, and a South Islander can go off and make their millions or retire in the sun with your blessing but you're forcing three North Islanders to remain in indentured servitude.
I thought you guys would still want to have a couple of All Blacks?
We can install ACT in Shand's job, if you're not fussed!
@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b Hmmm, so three Crusaders, an ex Crusader, and a South Islander can go off and make their millions or retire in the sun with your blessing but you're forcing three North Islanders to remain in indentured servitude.
I thought you guys would still want to have a couple of All Blacks?
We can install ACT in Shand's job, if you're not fussed!
Shand's Hawkes Bay upbringing is the only thing stopping a facist Crusaders hegemony.
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@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b Hmmm, so three Crusaders, an ex Crusader, and a South Islander can go off and make their millions or retire in the sun with your blessing but you're forcing three North Islanders to remain in indentured servitude.
I thought you guys would still want to have a couple of All Blacks?
We can install ACT in Shand's job, if you're not fussed!
Shand's Hawkes Bay upbringing is the only thing stopping a facist Crusaders hegemony.
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b Hmmm, so three Crusaders, an ex Crusader, and a South Islander can go off and make their millions or retire in the sun with your blessing but you're forcing three North Islanders to remain in indentured servitude.
I thought you guys would still want to have a couple of All Blacks?
We can install ACT in Shand's job, if you're not fussed!
Shand's Hawkes Bay upbringing is the only thing stopping a facist Crusaders hegemony.
Haha -sleep well with that in mind. Hitler was an Austrian!
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@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b Hmmm, so three Crusaders, an ex Crusader, and a South Islander can go off and make their millions or retire in the sun with your blessing but you're forcing three North Islanders to remain in indentured servitude.
I thought you guys would still want to have a couple of All Blacks?
We can install ACT in Shand's job, if you're not fussed!
Shand's Hawkes Bay upbringing is the only thing stopping a facist Crusaders hegemony.
Haha -sleep well with that in mind. Hitler was an Austrian!
@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b Hmmm, so three Crusaders, an ex Crusader, and a South Islander can go off and make their millions or retire in the sun with your blessing but you're forcing three North Islanders to remain in indentured servitude.
I thought you guys would still want to have a couple of All Blacks?
We can install ACT in Shand's job, if you're not fussed!
Shand's Hawkes Bay upbringing is the only thing stopping a facist Crusaders hegemony.
Haha -sleep well with that in mind. Hitler was an Austrian!
Clearly Ta$man is Canterbury's Austria.
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@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b Hmmm, so three Crusaders, an ex Crusader, and a South Islander can go off and make their millions or retire in the sun with your blessing but you're forcing three North Islanders to remain in indentured servitude.
I thought you guys would still want to have a couple of All Blacks?
We can install ACT in Shand's job, if you're not fussed!
Shand's Hawkes Bay upbringing is the only thing stopping a facist Crusaders hegemony.
Haha -sleep well with that in mind. Hitler was an Austrian!
Clearly Ta$man is Canterbury's Austria.
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@nepia We are the Switzerland of the South.
The Cantabs like the Germans have looked east to find more extreme versions of their bogan-selves - in Hawkes Bay!
@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia We are the Switzerland of the South.
The Cantabs like the Germans have looked east to find more extreme versions of their bogan-selves - in Hawkes Bay!
Hmmm, yes I can see it, Switzerland stored stolen Nazi gold and art and Ta$man stores stolen loose forwards.
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@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia We are the Switzerland of the South.
The Cantabs like the Germans have looked east to find more extreme versions of their bogan-selves - in Hawkes Bay!
Hmmm, yes I can see it, Switzerland stored stolen Nazi gold and art and Ta$man stores stolen loose forwards.
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@nepia We should have got quite wealthy out of the Marshall Plan as well - need to speak with James and Tom about that money...
@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia We should have got quite wealthy out of the Marshall Plan as well - need to speak with James and Tom about that money...
Maybe the wrong Marshall, seems to be Justin who distributes the wealth of compliments to his former enemies and allies.
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@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia We are the Switzerland of the South.
The Cantabs like the Germans have looked east to find more extreme versions of their bogan-selves - in Hawkes Bay!
Hmmm, yes I can see it, Switzerland stored stolen Nazi gold and art and Ta$man stores stolen loose forwards.
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia We are the Switzerland of the South.
The Cantabs like the Germans have looked east to find more extreme versions of their bogan-selves - in Hawkes Bay!
Hmmm, yes I can see it, Switzerland stored stolen Nazi gold and art and Ta$man stores stolen loose forwards.
Where does Hawkes Bay stand in all this ?
Heroic Russian tanks who advanced and ended the war?
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@mn5 said in Bledisloe II:
@sammyc said in Bledisloe II:
@mn5 said in Bledisloe II:
@pakman said in Bledisloe II:
@cyclops said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
I liked Moody's try. Showed great strength. Very unheralded player, but does a shit load of work in tight and hits like a train.
That was a great try. Hope Owen Franks watches some replays, look what can happen when a big strong prop hits the ball at top speed.
In Owen's case that's 3 mph though?
Again, for a guy who is very possibly the strongest bloke in the team his lack of power as a ball carrier is baffling.
It’s not baffling if you understand basic physics....he’s almost certainly the slowest in the team.
Kinetic energy = 1/2 mass x velocity squared
Well yeah but he also loves his Olympic weightlifting and that builds explosiveness like nothing else.
I know the franks family reasonably well, they don't do much olympic lifting (if any at all) it's mainly squats and deadlifts.
Having run beside him at the gym a few times I can confirm he's so slow it's almost funny.
@sammyc said in Bledisloe II:
@mn5 said in Bledisloe II:
@sammyc said in Bledisloe II:
@mn5 said in Bledisloe II:
@pakman said in Bledisloe II:
@cyclops said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
I liked Moody's try. Showed great strength. Very unheralded player, but does a shit load of work in tight and hits like a train.
That was a great try. Hope Owen Franks watches some replays, look what can happen when a big strong prop hits the ball at top speed.
In Owen's case that's 3 mph though?
Again, for a guy who is very possibly the strongest bloke in the team his lack of power as a ball carrier is baffling.
It’s not baffling if you understand basic physics....he’s almost certainly the slowest in the team.
Kinetic energy = 1/2 mass x velocity squared
Well yeah but he also loves his Olympic weightlifting and that builds explosiveness like nothing else.
I know the franks family reasonably well, they don't do much olympic lifting (if any at all) it's mainly squats and deadlifts.
Having run beside him at the gym a few times I can confirm he's so slow it's almost funny.
This did make me chuckle, however the internet says you're completely wrong.
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given Cane has had alsmot as many head knocks as Crotty, maybe we need to look at leaving him out for a period too?
So that slots Savea firmly in the drivers seat (looked a bit more physical than normal last night too, although against a beaten Wallaby pack) but who is the next 7 off the ranks?
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
given Cane has had alsmot as many head knocks as Crotty, maybe we need to look at leaving him out for a period too?
So that slots Savea firmly in the drivers seat (looked a bit more physical than normal last night too, although against a beaten Wallaby pack) but who is the next 7 off the ranks?
I'm leaning towards Papali'i.Worth a go IMO, he's into everything.
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@sammyc said in Bledisloe II:
@mn5 said in Bledisloe II:
@sammyc said in Bledisloe II:
@mn5 said in Bledisloe II:
@pakman said in Bledisloe II:
@cyclops said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
I liked Moody's try. Showed great strength. Very unheralded player, but does a shit load of work in tight and hits like a train.
That was a great try. Hope Owen Franks watches some replays, look what can happen when a big strong prop hits the ball at top speed.
In Owen's case that's 3 mph though?
Again, for a guy who is very possibly the strongest bloke in the team his lack of power as a ball carrier is baffling.
It’s not baffling if you understand basic physics....he’s almost certainly the slowest in the team.
Kinetic energy = 1/2 mass x velocity squared
Well yeah but he also loves his Olympic weightlifting and that builds explosiveness like nothing else.
I know the franks family reasonably well, they don't do much olympic lifting (if any at all) it's mainly squats and deadlifts.
Having run beside him at the gym a few times I can confirm he's so slow it's almost funny.
This did make me chuckle, however the internet says you're completely wrong.
@mn5 said in Bledisloe II:
@sammyc said in Bledisloe II:
@mn5 said in Bledisloe II:
@sammyc said in Bledisloe II:
@mn5 said in Bledisloe II:
@pakman said in Bledisloe II:
@cyclops said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
I liked Moody's try. Showed great strength. Very unheralded player, but does a shit load of work in tight and hits like a train.
That was a great try. Hope Owen Franks watches some replays, look what can happen when a big strong prop hits the ball at top speed.
In Owen's case that's 3 mph though?
Again, for a guy who is very possibly the strongest bloke in the team his lack of power as a ball carrier is baffling.
It’s not baffling if you understand basic physics....he’s almost certainly the slowest in the team.
Kinetic energy = 1/2 mass x velocity squared
Well yeah but he also loves his Olympic weightlifting and that builds explosiveness like nothing else.
I know the franks family reasonably well, they don't do much olympic lifting (if any at all) it's mainly squats and deadlifts.
Having run beside him at the gym a few times I can confirm he's so slow it's almost funny.
This did make me chuckle, however the internet says you're completely wrong.
It’s a video from 2012, hardly conclusive proof
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@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia We are the Switzerland of the South.
The Cantabs like the Germans have looked east to find more extreme versions of their bogan-selves - in Hawkes Bay!
Hmmm, yes I can see it, Switzerland stored stolen Nazi gold and art and Ta$man stores stolen loose forwards.
Where does Hawkes Bay stand in all this ?
Heroic Russian tanks who advanced and ended the war?
@mn5 said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia We are the Switzerland of the South.
The Cantabs like the Germans have looked east to find more extreme versions of their bogan-selves - in Hawkes Bay!
Hmmm, yes I can see it, Switzerland stored stolen Nazi gold and art and Ta$man stores stolen loose forwards.
Where does Hawkes Bay stand in all this ?
Heroic Russian tanks who advanced and ended the war?
Tiny Hawkes Bay as Russia? Hardly likely. We're more like a plucky Netherlands, formerly had a huge Empire (1926 Shield reign and all), fought hard for a few days, never rolled over like the French when they were occupied. Many of our troops continued the fight from other areas (Franchises and Provinces).
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
given Cane has had alsmot as many head knocks as Crotty, maybe we need to look at leaving him out for a period too?
So that slots Savea firmly in the drivers seat (looked a bit more physical than normal last night too, although against a beaten Wallaby pack) but who is the next 7 off the ranks?
I'm leaning towards Papali'i.Worth a go IMO, he's into everything.
@shadowtrooper said in Bledisloe II:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
given Cane has had alsmot as many head knocks as Crotty, maybe we need to look at leaving him out for a period too?
So that slots Savea firmly in the drivers seat (looked a bit more physical than normal last night too, although against a beaten Wallaby pack) but who is the next 7 off the ranks?
I'm leaning towards Papali'i.Worth a go IMO, he's into everything.
But, he's behind fern favourite and God on earth Blake Gibson in the Auckland pecking order! :face_screaming_in_fear:
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@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia We are the Switzerland of the South.
The Cantabs like the Germans have looked east to find more extreme versions of their bogan-selves - in Hawkes Bay!
Hmmm, yes I can see it, Switzerland stored stolen Nazi gold and art and Ta$man stores stolen loose forwards.
Where does Hawkes Bay stand in all this ?
Heroic Russian tanks who advanced and ended the war?
@mn5 said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia said in Bledisloe II:
@chris-b said in Bledisloe II:
@nepia We are the Switzerland of the South.
The Cantabs like the Germans have looked east to find more extreme versions of their bogan-selves - in Hawkes Bay!
Hmmm, yes I can see it, Switzerland stored stolen Nazi gold and art and Ta$man stores stolen loose forwards.
Where does Hawkes Bay stand in all this ?
Heroic Russian tanks who advanced and ended the war?
Romanian troops on the Southern flank at Stalingrad being completely overrun
