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All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @dogmeat You can run down to Trailways at halftime - and take the minibus to the Brightwater Hotel at fulltime if you don't like the large selection of Central City bars. 🙂

    It will be great.

    Nelson - International venue for rugby and cricket!

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

    @dogmeat You can run down to Trailways at halftime - and take the minibus to the Brightwater Hotel at fulltime if you don't like the large selection of Central City bars. 🙂

    It will be great.

    Nelson - International venue for rugby and cricket!

    I watched the 2nd Lions test last year at the Brightwater Motor Inn. The locals were . . . interesting.

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      This is very good news actually that NZ are forced to get some starts in Tuinukiafe, and the injury to Moody is as minor as a thumb fracture.

      I say this believing, as far as I know, that Moody is the best current LHP in test rugby.

      KT needs some serious (starting) minutes before RWC.

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        having guys like Ta'avao and Tu'unukuafi in our squad could be looked at in 2 ways:

        1 - Our much vaunted depth isnt what it is thought of given ABs call in 2 guys who had no contracts at end of last year
        2 - Meh, just grab those 2 fellas, they look like props, she'll be right, this is NZ, everyone can play for the ABs.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          having guys like Ta'avao and Tu'unukuafi in our squad could be looked at in 2 ways:

          1 - Our much vaunted depth isnt what it is thought of given ABs call in 2 guys who had no contracts at end of last year
          2 - Meh, just grab those 2 fellas, they look like props, she'll be right, this is NZ, everyone can play for the ABs.

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          @taniwharugby or you factor in the multiple injured players and that it's not without precedent that props are better in their mid-late 20s than their early 20s.

          Plus factor in the mistakes made with handing out Super Rugby contracts (as a Blues fan i'm all too aware of this).

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          • SmudgeS Smudge

            @chris-b said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

            @dogmeat You can run down to Trailways at halftime - and take the minibus to the Brightwater Hotel at fulltime if you don't like the large selection of Central City bars. 🙂

            It will be great.

            Nelson - International venue for rugby and cricket!

            I watched the 2nd Lions test last year at the Brightwater Motor Inn. The locals were . . . interesting.

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            @smudge said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

            @chris-b said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

            @dogmeat You can run down to Trailways at halftime - and take the minibus to the Brightwater Hotel at fulltime if you don't like the large selection of Central City bars. 🙂

            It will be great.

            Nelson - International venue for rugby and cricket!

            I watched the 2nd Lions test last year at the Brightwater Motor Inn. The locals were . . . interesting.

            Hey - that could have been me!

            No - on second thoughts, I was still banned from the Brightwater at that stage! 🙂

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            • RapidoR Rapido

              This is very good news actually that NZ are forced to get some starts in Tuinukiafe, and the injury to Moody is as minor as a thumb fracture.

              I say this believing, as far as I know, that Moody is the best current LHP in test rugby.

              KT needs some serious (starting) minutes before RWC.

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              @rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

              This is very good news actually that NZ are forced to get some starts in Tuinukiafe, and the injury to Moody is as minor as a thumb fracture.

              I wouldn't be surprised if they start Perry and bring big Karl off the bench.

              Have to throw the locals a bone. 😉

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                having guys like Ta'avao and Tu'unukuafi in our squad could be looked at in 2 ways:

                1 - Our much vaunted depth isnt what it is thought of given ABs call in 2 guys who had no contracts at end of last year
                2 - Meh, just grab those 2 fellas, they look like props, she'll be right, this is NZ, everyone can play for the ABs.

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                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                having guys like Ta'avao and Tu'unukuafi in our squad could be looked at in 2 ways:

                1 - Our much vaunted depth isnt what it is thought of given ABs call in 2 guys who had no contracts at end of last year
                2 - Meh, just grab those 2 fellas, they look like props, she'll be right, this is NZ, everyone can play for the ABs.

                or 3 - Our depth goes so far, even these guys didn't have contracts at the end of last year. 😉

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                  This is very good news actually that NZ are forced to get some starts in Tuinukiafe, and the injury to Moody is as minor as a thumb fracture.

                  I wouldn't be surprised if they start Perry and bring big Karl off the bench.

                  Have to throw the locals a bone. 😉

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                  @bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                  I wouldn't be surprised if they start Perry and bring big Karl off the bench.
                  Have to throw the locals a bone.

                  ugh

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                  • RapidoR Rapido

                    @bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                    I wouldn't be surprised if they start Perry and bring big Karl off the bench.
                    Have to throw the locals a bone.

                    ugh

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                    @rapido I just think that Hansen and co might believe that Tu'inukuafe is the better impact sub of the two.

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                      in here will do...

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/106682354/all-blacks-lethal-counter-attack-strategy-due-to-john-mitchells-basketball-background

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                        #63

                        hahaha holy shit.

                        And they spelled Peter Sloane wrong

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                          is "mastery of "transition" opportunities" just another way of saying "journey"?

                          So a guy reputedly responsible for our attacking play is taking on the English defensive role?

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            in here will do...

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/106682354/all-blacks-lethal-counter-attack-strategy-due-to-john-mitchells-basketball-background

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                            @taniwharugby I can see why Harris no longer writes for The Australian. Now if they could just get rid of Wayne Smith.

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                              Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @98blueandgold be surprised if we see Crotty again this series, if at all this season.

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                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                @98blueandgold be surprised if we see Crotty again this series, if at all this season.

                                Am pretty sure I heard Shag say that Crotty will be available for selection next weekend. Would rather see him take the rest of the year off though but they do have the best medical advice available I suppose.

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                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @98blueandgold be surprised if we see Crotty again this series, if at all this season.

                                  Am pretty sure I heard Shag say that Crotty will be available for selection next weekend. Would rather see him take the rest of the year off though but they do have the best medical advice available I suppose.

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                                  @akan004 yeah I know, same applies to Cane, and I expect with the head knocks it is largely bad luck (poor technique the odd time) so if they are right then they are right...although they are still learning when it comes to the effects of concussion arent they.

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).

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                                    @nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                    Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).

                                    Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,

                                    Chicken egg situation there

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @rapido I just think that Hansen and co might believe that Tu'inukuafe is the better impact sub of the two.

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                                      @bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                      @rapido I just think that Hansen and co might believe that Tu'inukuafe is the better impact sub of the two.

                                      Sure, but there is the possibility of having big trouble at scrum time if Perry has to face Juan Figallo who was outstanding vs Mtwawarira in the last test.

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                                        hahaha holy shit.

                                        And they spelled Peter Sloane wrong

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                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        hahaha holy shit.

                                        And they spelled Peter Sloane wrong

                                        Hahaha, you got there before me, just saw it now ... although shouldn't it (really) be that they spelled Henry wrong.

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                                          Couple of observations:

                                          Assuming they rest Crotty and Cane (which I hope they do)..

                                          • Who is back up for Savea? That might argue for Frizzell to cover 6 and 7.

                                          • If Mo'unga gets a start it wouldn't make sense to have Laumape starting -- better ALB. Goodhue to get rest in second and ALB to 13.

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