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Blues 2019

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  • BonesB Bones

    @tim yet performs very well for a better team in a starting position. Hmmm.

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    @bones Hodgman was injured for almost the entire Super Rugby season (again). He starts ahead of Lienert-Brown for Canterbury, who are a fairly decent team.

    Aki Seiuli got a number of starts this year. And ... is actually off contract too.

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    • TimT Tim

      @Chris-B

      What's Ryan Coxon like at loosehead?

      Other options would include Nic Mayhew, Chris Eves, Jeff Thwaites, Reuben O’Neill, Mitchell Graham (if alive), Ezekiel Lindenmuth, Jared Adams, Pauliasi Manu (if available), and Sam Prattley.

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      @tim Well, he's starting over Crockett

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        Ross Wright looks decent as a loosehead for Northland

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @dice I think he is quick enough to play wing, so maybe he will need to until his defensive game improves.

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          @taniwharugby I think we forget how young a player like Tua is. The missed tackles is not good enough but if the Coaches are good enough and he has the courage they can turn that around. Hope they persist and make him the quality rugby player he can be.

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            Didn't Tua hurt his hand this year whilst out on the drink? Not a great look.

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              The two Taranaki looseheads, Reuben O'Neill and Jared Proffit, look handy. Both look quite strong in the scrums. Proffit in particular has come off the bench this season and just had guys moonwalking.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                Didn't Tua hurt his hand this year whilst out on the drink? Not a great look.

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                @kiwimurph and after watching Tua miss 6 x tackles including a blatant miss on Jack Whetton..maybe a bit of heart shrink as well..t

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                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12116975

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12116975

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                    @kiwimurph Great news.

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                      Good, the Bolton group has been a disaster

                      Now sack Redman, sack Hanks and allow Umaga to pretend he's decided to leave for an 'exciting new challenge'

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @kiwimurph Great news.

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                        @tim amen to that piece of news..!

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                          Another article about the changing ownership

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/106728162/new-zealand-rugby-to-buy-large-stake-in-struggling-blues

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                            So the NZRU is just an interim investor until a new investor is found. I wonder if the Auckland union want to buy that 40%? They have more than enough cash right now.

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              So the NZRU is just an interim investor until a new investor is found. I wonder if the Auckland union want to buy that 40%? They have more than enough cash right now.

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                              @duluth I think Auckland, North Harbour & Northland should all take at least a chunk of that 40%.

                              I cant recall what Northland's cash reserves were like but they are in a pretty good position financially.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @duluth I think Auckland, North Harbour & Northland should all take at least a chunk of that 40%.

                                I cant recall what Northland's cash reserves were like but they are in a pretty good position financially.

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                                @taniwharugby

                                I would be happy with more involvement of the three unions rather than another private investor. Certain people in that Bolton group apparently got starry eye'd and tingly feels when dealing with famous ex AB's.
                                Rugby people wanted to sack Kirwan, the Bolton group desperately wanted to keep him.. they only let go when they got a hold of another superstar coach (a coach with a profile to engage with Auckland's complex and diverse media landscape blah blah blah bullshit)

                                But I doubt Northland would be interested? When Rugby Holdings was created (based on previous input to the Blues franchise) they immediately sold half of their small share to Auckland

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @taniwharugby

                                  I would be happy with more involvement of the three unions rather than another private investor. Certain people in that Bolton group apparently got starry eye'd and tingly feels when dealing with famous ex AB's.
                                  Rugby people wanted to sack Kirwan, the Bolton group desperately wanted to keep him.. they only let go when they got a hold of another superstar coach (a coach with a profile to engage with Auckland's complex and diverse media landscape blah blah blah bullshit)

                                  But I doubt Northland would be interested? When Rugby Holdings was created (based on previous input to the Blues franchise) they immediately sold half of their small share to Auckland

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                                  @duluth yeah I realise that, but wonder if that was done through needing to release some capital (around that time Northland were doing everything they could to save money) but now they seem to be on the right track, investing in the Blues at a rock bottom price might be a good idea... 😉

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                                    More details.. the earlier article has been significantly updated.

                                    John Hart might be involved.

                                    Not a surprise after he did a fluff pr interview on Jeff Wilson's sky show a couple of months ago (lots of hypothetical questions about how he would fix a team like the Blues)

                                    Many of his answers mirrored Redman's.. hopefully that wasn't his real views

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/106728162/new-zealand-rugby-to-buy-large-stake-in-struggling-blues

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                                      Twat Bolton has his say

                                      https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/sport/365382/bolton-s-blues-with-the-blues

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        Twat Bolton has his say

                                        https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/sport/365382/bolton-s-blues-with-the-blues

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                                        @duluth Way to take zero responsibility Bolton. What a knob.

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          Twat Bolton has his say

                                          https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/sport/365382/bolton-s-blues-with-the-blues

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                                          @duluth said in Blues 2019:

                                          Twat Bolton has his say

                                          https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/sport/365382/bolton-s-blues-with-the-blues

                                          So according to Bolton his input was on the commercial side of things and getting the training facilities built. He says the rugby side was left to the board members from the Unions.
                                          This is completely at odds to the comments often trotted out here about him meddling in recruitment of coaches and players.
                                          Serious question. Is there evidence anywhere that is the case or is it rumour and stories?
                                          I'm not defending the guy just trying to understand where the rugby performance management finger should be pointed.

                                          Judging by the statements though, it is clear that there is not the clear separation of responsibility that he claims otherwise why the problems around the table in getting agreement?

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