Sky TV
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Problem is there are a ton of hoops to jump through to get an app on a TV, they are generally not open market places. And they use differing versions of android, iOS, Tizen, Orsay.... On mobile Android and Apple, with Android being open, makes it a lot easier. Netflix is big enough, Sky NZ? Not the money to do it properly, considering SkyGo is still using fkn Flash!
Really Sky screwed the pooch by it's original pricing plans. Offering Sport only with the core channels meant it undervalued the Sport and over valued the core. So now people would baulk at paying the right ratios, like 5 bucks for almost all channels but 100 a month for sport and movies each. Then the licencing cost would be spread in the right ratio.
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Until recently sky UK were using silverlight. Pretty sure that stopped being supported years ago. Not sure what they use now, but they restrict you to only being able to have skygo on two devices, only being able to make one device change per month. Then it's another price hike to four devices.
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SKY BOLSTERS EUROPEAN RUGBY OFFERING
SKY is excited to announce that it has secured the exclusive broadcasting rights for the Guinness Pro14 for the next three seasons (2018/19 – 2020/21) and the French Top 14 for the 2018/19 season. The deals join the Gallagher Premiership and the Premier Rugby Cup to complete a comprehensive European rugby offering for rugby fans on SKY TV.As part of the deal, SKY will broadcast a minimum of 152 games on the SKY platform with the majority being broadcast on the Rugby Channel with select games on SKY Sport. The season will kick-off Saturday 1st September at 6.30am with three LIVE matches simultaneously. Cardiff Blues v Leinster Rugby on SKY Sport Pop-up 2, Zebre Rugby Club v Southern Kings on Rugby Channel Pop Up 1 and Ospreys v Edinburgh Rugby on Rugby Channel Pop-up 2. A 30 minute Guinness Pro14 highlights and preview show will screen on both SKY Sport and the Rugby Channel. The Kiwi stacked French Top 14 has also renewed its license with SKY to broadcast select matches of the 2018/19 season on the Rugby Channel and SKY Sport. With many of the French Top 14 sides featuring New Zealand talent, this will be of particular interest to Kiwi rugby fans.Please find below the broadcast schedule for the first three weeks of Guinness Pro14 matches as well as the upcoming French Top 14 matches. Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Cardiff Blues V Leinster Saturday, September 1st, 6.30am SKY Sport Pop-up 2 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Ospreys V Edinburgh Saturday, September 1st, 6.30am Rugby Channel Pop Up 2 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Zebre V Southern Kings Saturday, September 1st, 6.30am Rugby Channel Pop Up 1 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Ulster V Scarlets Sunday, September 2nd, 4.10am SKY Sport 4 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Munster V Cheetahs Sunday, September 2nd, 4.10am Rugby Channel Pop Up 1 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Dragons V Benetton Sunday, September 2nd, 6.30am Rugby Channel Guinness Pro 14 - Delayed: Connacht V Glasgow Sunday, September 2nd, 10.30am Rugby Channel Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Glasgow V Munster Saturday, September 8th, 6.30am Rugby Channel Pop Up 1 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Ulster V Edinburgh Saturday, September 8th, 6.30am Rugby Channel Pop Up 2 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Connacht V Zebre Sunday, September 9th, 4.10am Rugby Channel Pop Up 1 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Ospreys V Cheetahs Sunday, September 9th, 4.25am SKY Sport 4 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Scarlets V Leinster Sunday, September 9th, 6.30am Rugby Channel Pop Up 1 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Benetton V Cardiff Blues Sunday, September 9th, 6.30am Rugby Channel Pop Up 2 Guinness Pro 14 - Delay: Dragons V Southern Kings Sunday, September 9th, 8.00am Rugby Channel Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Edinburgh V Connacht Saturday, September 15th, 6.30am Rugby Channel Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Munster V Ospreys Saturday, September 15th, 6.30am SKY Sport 1 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Leinster V Dragons Sunday, September 16th, 4.10am SKY Sport 2 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Scarlets V Benetton Sunday, September 16th, 4.10am Rugby Channel Pop Up 1 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Cheetahs V Glasgow Sunday, September 16th, 5.25am Rugby Channel Pop Up 2 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Zebre V Cardiff Blues Sunday, September 16th, 6.30am Rugby Channel Pop Up 1 Guinness Pro 14 - Live: Southern Kings V Ulster Monday, September 17th,12.15am Rugby Channel Pop Up 1French Top 14 - Delayed: Pau V Toulon - Sunday, September 2nd, 2.30pm Rugby Channel French Top 14 - Live: Racing 92 V Clermont Auvergne - Tuesday, September 4th, 2.30pm Rugby Channel Pop Up 1 French Top 14 - Delayed: Toulouse V LA Rochelle Sunday - September 9th, 4.30pm Rugby Channel French Top 14 - Live: Toulon V Castres - Monday, September 10th, 2.45am Rugby Channel Pop Up 1 -
Goodness, a live game at 2.45pm for us NZrs between Racing and Clermont on September 4 will certainly test the players ability to compete when they would normally be tucked up in bed fast asleep. Don't expect the attendance to be all that high for similar reasons. Still it's good to see them going out of their way to repay us for playing games in their time zone, even though it is in the middle of a work day.
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Technologically Sky NZ really needs to up its game. In the UK I have a box that delivers 4K video and Dolby Atmos, has 2TB capacity and streams to multiple devices ( handing off a programme to iPad app etc). You can watch two channels in splitscreen. No dish needed either, which is handy as my building doesn’t allow them.
Compare that to the shitty box I have to use back in NZ. Unbelievable that some of the channels aren’t even in HD, and none are greater resolution than 1080i.
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@jc AND you pay more for HD!! Bullshit.
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@paekakboyz You do on Netflix too! HD and 5.1 should be a minimum from all platforms, whether it be streaming or satellite.
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@paekakboyz You do on Netflix too! HD and 5.1 should be a minimum from all platforms, whether it be streaming or satellite.
To be fair to Netflix the HD pricing may be more but it also gets you an additional screen (which let’s face it a load of people share).
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Technologically Sky NZ really needs to up its game. In the UK I have a box that delivers 4K video and Dolby Atmos, has 2TB capacity and streams to multiple devices ( handing off a programme to iPad app etc). You can watch two channels in splitscreen. No dish needed either, which is handy as my building doesn’t allow them.
Compare that to the shitty box I have to use back in NZ. Unbelievable that some of the channels aren’t even in HD, and none are greater resolution than 1080i.
I dont want all my channels in HD, takes up to much space in my harddrive
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@baron-silas-greenback It doesn’t matter so much if there’s a decent size hard drive though.
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@baron-silas-greenback It doesn’t matter so much if there’s a decent size hard drive though.
It does. I record alot and then chose what to watch
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@paekakboyz You do on Netflix too! HD and 5.1 should be a minimum from all platforms, whether it be streaming or satellite.
To be fair to Netflix the HD pricing may be more but it also gets you an additional screen (which let’s face it a load of people share).
Netflix is also a damn sight cheaper. Not apples with apples but even the most expensive Netflix plan is still just chump change.
Without a doubt Sky has dug themselves into a massive hole by not investing in new technologies. Hardly alone in that respect, but they're now in a position where replacing everyone's boxes is too expensive so they're stuck until they (probably) move away from them altogether.
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@no-quarter Yeah I think Netflix is well priced, think I pay under $20 for 3 devices and HD, whereas I was gettign HD on Sky cos I was paying $25 a month for multi room, so canned the latter.
But Sky have had thier head in the sand for far too long they are so far behind it will be so costly for them to catch up.
Ultimately we will end up paying more to stream through multiple platforms in the future, with some looking back and crying about when Sky used to supply it all in one place...what we are getting is what people have been crying out for, although TBF if Sky had been on the ball people wouldnt be canceling subscriptions in the thousands each week.
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Pretty sure @JC is talking about sky q which last time I looked was quite a price hike over standard sky which chump me has... While paying extra for HD still and they still restrict you to only having the mobile app on two devices with one change a month and charging extra for 4 devices. Think our plan with standard plus movies, Internet and HD comes in at about 90 squid.
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I've ditched sky, for the first time since I moved back to NZ, for using Rugby Pass and a VPN. RP had a ton more games, a six months highlights and full game back catalogue, and it costs less than a quarter the price. Watching live games not quite the quality of live sky, but it's still HD. I have no interest in anything on sky but rugby, and that's why they lost me - paying for shit I don't want.
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Pretty sure @JC is talking about sky q which last time I looked was quite a price hike over standard sky which chump me has... While paying extra for HD still and they still restrict you to only having the mobile app on two devices with one change a month and charging extra for 4 devices. Think our plan with standard plus movies, Internet and HD comes in at about 90 squid.
You’re right Bones, it’s Sky Q. And yes it’s more expensive but the point is at least they have the tech available. The way I see it companies like them either have to compete on price or tech. If they can do both hey great, but at least have some kind of differentiation. Sky NZ has neither. They’re expensive (which I admit I don’t care about but I recognise most do) and we’ll behind the tech curve.
The other thing about Sky is that they and TVNZ have tied up the rights to a lot of TV archive that either they don’t make available or if they do it’s at very low quality. The NZ Apple TV doesn’t even have a TV app as there is no content, and the number of shows on Prime or Netflix overseas that you simply can’t access over in NZ isn’t funny. So in effect they’ve locked up content and only have a poor quality delivery channel compared to the competition.
Edit: just looked at the bill, for Sky Q it’s £90.50 per month without internet cost but with one Sky Q Mini. NZ cost is $154.96.
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From an article in April:
Sky TV has revealed its future plans to offer customers unbundled content, online only access and an Apple TV-style box – all while keeping its satellite subscription service. Sky executives have outlined the end of linear television and its willingness to embrace new viewing trends. Over the next 12 months, Sky plans to launch an array of cheaper options designed specifically to appeal to users who have made the transition from linear television viewing.
We've had this discussion before. I'm not going to defend Sky as they have been too slow to adopt new technology. They still made a decent profit with the big churn in customers.
The problem is that people now expect everything for nothing, which is not going to happen with Sports content, particularly in a small market like NZ. Spark's entry into sport could be a game changer or blow up big time if they aren't able to deliver.
