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All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson

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  • BonesB Bones

    @rancid-schnitzel NMS also tore it up in NPC.

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    @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

    @rancid-schnitzel NMS also tore it up in NPC.

    In 2018?

    He tore it up at Super and international level in 2015 as well.

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      Actually, on NMS. Fuck that makes me angry watching that first try and seeing him come in off his wing to tackle a guy who was already clearly well and truly covered. What kind of a fucking decision was that? There was no overlap and not even the hint of an overlap. He's got to go.

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        @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

        @rancid-schnitzel NMS also tore it up in NPC.

        In 2018?

        He tore it up at Super and international level in 2015 as well.

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        @rancid-schnitzel yep so more recently than Jordie 😁

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        • BonesB Bones

          Actually, on NMS. Fuck that makes me angry watching that first try and seeing him come in off his wing to tackle a guy who was already clearly well and truly covered. What kind of a fucking decision was that? There was no overlap and not even the hint of an overlap. He's got to go.

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          @bones I wondered that to bones and wondered if perhaps Frizell didn't let him know he was there? Only thing I could think of.

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            Actually, on NMS. Fuck that makes me angry watching that first try and seeing him come in off his wing to tackle a guy who was already clearly well and truly covered. What kind of a fucking decision was that? There was no overlap and not even the hint of an overlap. He's got to go.

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            @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

            Actually, on NMS. Fuck that makes me angry watching that first try and seeing him come in off his wing to tackle a guy who was already clearly well and truly covered. What kind of a fucking decision was that? There was no overlap and not even the hint of an overlap. He's got to go.

            Not only that, but TJP farked up the tackle. Got turned inside out, and just didn't recover. Disappointing from a usually good defender.

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              @bones I wondered that to bones and wondered if perhaps Frizell didn't let him know he was there? Only thing I could think of.

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              @dan54 yeah possibly but he's last on the chain, plenty of time to scan.

              I can forgive TJP, that was a magical run by Moyano.

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                I really want Alaimalo in the AB setup ASAP. He's very classy and his game looks well suited to test footy. I hope they don't persist with NMS for much longer.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @dan54 yeah possibly but he's last on the chain, plenty of time to scan.

                  I can forgive TJP, that was a magical run by Moyano.

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                  @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                  I can forgive TJP, that was a magical run by Moyano.

                  Their back three played really well. The 15 try in the second half off a pop pass was a thing of beauty - just magnificent to watch, and bloody impossible to defend.

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                    Actually, on NMS. Fuck that makes me angry watching that first try and seeing him come in off his wing to tackle a guy who was already clearly well and truly covered. What kind of a fucking decision was that? There was no overlap and not even the hint of an overlap. He's got to go.

                    Not only that, but TJP farked up the tackle. Got turned inside out, and just didn't recover. Disappointing from a usually good defender.

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                    @nzzp said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                    Not only that, but TJP farked up the tackle. Got turned inside out, and just didn't recover. Disappointing from a usually good defender.

                    Mo’unga was caught very flat-footed too.

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                      I can forgive TJP, that was a magical run by Moyano.

                      Their back three played really well. The 15 try in the second half off a pop pass was a thing of beauty - just magnificent to watch, and bloody impossible to defend.

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                      @nzzp haven't watched it again but that would usually be what your blindside winger is tracking to tidy up...

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @nzzp haven't watched it again but that would usually be what your blindside winger is tracking to tidy up...

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                        @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                        @nzzp haven't watched it again but that would usually be what your blindside winger is tracking to tidy up...

                        Yep - but he hung off, didn't seem to be able to effect the tackle, and wound up over the line with the Argie. I was frustrated. May have had a beer, but was frustrated 🙂

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          Actually, on NMS. Fuck that makes me angry watching that first try and seeing him come in off his wing to tackle a guy who was already clearly well and truly covered. What kind of a fucking decision was that? There was no overlap and not even the hint of an overlap. He's got to go.

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                          @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                          Actually, on NMS. Fuck that makes me angry watching that first try and seeing him come in off his wing to tackle a guy who was already clearly well and truly covered. What kind of a fucking decision was that? There was no overlap and not even the hint of an overlap. He's got to go.

                          Yep. If his speed is gone then he better do everything else farking perfectly. That was shocking.

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                            He's certainly not shown anything since 2015 that is AB's worthy. One or two nice steps over 3 years... and obviously a lot slower.

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                              @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                              @rancid-schnitzel nah he can't even make the bench when the ABs have a club standard player on the wing.

                              Him at Goodhue tore it up as 12 and 13 for Canterbury. He's not a 13 but as far as I know had never played there before Boyd threw him in. I still maintain it's his best position although I'm more than happy to keep the backline used against Australia. Thought the Laumape Goodhue pairing worked very well. What I liked about Laumape was that he ran hard and straight the entire game. He was taken down in the first half but eventually the effort needed to tackle the square shaped freak was too much and he started carving up. Imagine having to mark and tackle that for 80 minutes!

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                              @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                              @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                              @rancid-schnitzel nah he can't even make the bench when the ABs have a club standard player on the wing.

                              Him at Goodhue tore it up as 12 and 13 for Canterbury. He's not a 13 but as far as I know had never played there before Boyd threw him in. I still maintain it's his best position although I'm more than happy to keep the backline used against Australia. Thought the Laumape Goodhue pairing worked very well. What I liked about Laumape was that he ran hard and straight the entire game. He was taken down in the first half but eventually the effort needed to tackle the square shaped freak was too much and he started carving up. Imagine having to mark and tackle that for 80 minutes!

                              I disagree on laumape. I'm a fan, but I think he carves up late because defensive lines are slower. He's a brick, but he's not big, and a well set line will stop him. If he hits someone slightly on the back foot though, lethal. Ideal impact sub for that reason, even if it goes against the usual type.

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                                @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                @rancid-schnitzel nah he can't even make the bench when the ABs have a club standard player on the wing.

                                Him at Goodhue tore it up as 12 and 13 for Canterbury. He's not a 13 but as far as I know had never played there before Boyd threw him in. I still maintain it's his best position although I'm more than happy to keep the backline used against Australia. Thought the Laumape Goodhue pairing worked very well. What I liked about Laumape was that he ran hard and straight the entire game. He was taken down in the first half but eventually the effort needed to tackle the square shaped freak was too much and he started carving up. Imagine having to mark and tackle that for 80 minutes!

                                I disagree on laumape. I'm a fan, but I think he carves up late because defensive lines are slower. He's a brick, but he's not big, and a well set line will stop him. If he hits someone slightly on the back foot though, lethal. Ideal impact sub for that reason, even if it goes against the usual type.

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                                @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                @rancid-schnitzel nah he can't even make the bench when the ABs have a club standard player on the wing.

                                Him at Goodhue tore it up as 12 and 13 for Canterbury. He's not a 13 but as far as I know had never played there before Boyd threw him in. I still maintain it's his best position although I'm more than happy to keep the backline used against Australia. Thought the Laumape Goodhue pairing worked very well. What I liked about Laumape was that he ran hard and straight the entire game. He was taken down in the first half but eventually the effort needed to tackle the square shaped freak was too much and he started carving up. Imagine having to mark and tackle that for 80 minutes!

                                I disagree on laumape. I'm a fan, but I think he carves up late because defensive lines are slower. He's a brick, but he's not big, and a well set line will stop him. If he hits someone slightly on the back foot though, lethal. Ideal impact sub for that reason, even if it goes against the usual type.

                                Ever seen him in real life? The guy is a farking nugget. He isn't tall but he's just as wide, with an absolute ridiculous set of thighs. Tackling that for an entire game would be hell. I'd rather take a lock. Him being able to brutalise defences for 80 minutes is a massive advantage. I wasn't sold on him at 12 for the ABs, but after the Aus game I'm more than happy to have him there.

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                                  @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @rancid-schnitzel nah he can't even make the bench when the ABs have a club standard player on the wing.

                                  Him at Goodhue tore it up as 12 and 13 for Canterbury. He's not a 13 but as far as I know had never played there before Boyd threw him in. I still maintain it's his best position although I'm more than happy to keep the backline used against Australia. Thought the Laumape Goodhue pairing worked very well. What I liked about Laumape was that he ran hard and straight the entire game. He was taken down in the first half but eventually the effort needed to tackle the square shaped freak was too much and he started carving up. Imagine having to mark and tackle that for 80 minutes!

                                  I disagree on laumape. I'm a fan, but I think he carves up late because defensive lines are slower. He's a brick, but he's not big, and a well set line will stop him. If he hits someone slightly on the back foot though, lethal. Ideal impact sub for that reason, even if it goes against the usual type.

                                  Ever seen him in real life? The guy is a farking nugget. He isn't tall but he's just as wide, with an absolute ridiculous set of thighs. Tackling that for an entire game would be hell. I'd rather take a lock. Him being able to brutalise defences for 80 minutes is a massive advantage. I wasn't sold on him at 12 for the ABs, but after the Aus game I'm more than happy to have him there.

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                                  @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @rancid-schnitzel nah he can't even make the bench when the ABs have a club standard player on the wing.

                                  Him at Goodhue tore it up as 12 and 13 for Canterbury. He's not a 13 but as far as I know had never played there before Boyd threw him in. I still maintain it's his best position although I'm more than happy to keep the backline used against Australia. Thought the Laumape Goodhue pairing worked very well. What I liked about Laumape was that he ran hard and straight the entire game. He was taken down in the first half but eventually the effort needed to tackle the square shaped freak was too much and he started carving up. Imagine having to mark and tackle that for 80 minutes!

                                  I disagree on laumape. I'm a fan, but I think he carves up late because defensive lines are slower. He's a brick, but he's not big, and a well set line will stop him. If he hits someone slightly on the back foot though, lethal. Ideal impact sub for that reason, even if it goes against the usual type.

                                  Ever seen him in real life? The guy is a farking nugget. He isn't tall but he's just as wide, with an absolute ridiculous set of thighs. Tackling that for an entire game would be hell. I'd rather take a lock. Him being able to brutalise defences for 80 minutes is a massive advantage. I wasn't sold on him at 12 for the ABs, but after the Aus game I'm more than happy to have him there.

                                  I think he and ALB could be horses for courses. Laumape can cause havoc if the opposition lack size in their midfield, but ALB might be a better option if they're playing a couple of big boppers. Both offer a lot either starting or off the bench.

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                                    ALB looks like a monster in this photo

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      Actually, on NMS. Fuck that makes me angry watching that first try and seeing him come in off his wing to tackle a guy who was already clearly well and truly covered. What kind of a fucking decision was that? There was no overlap and not even the hint of an overlap. He's got to go.

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                                      @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                      Actually, on NMS. Fuck that makes me angry watching that first try and seeing him come in off his wing to tackle a guy who was already clearly well and truly covered. What kind of a fucking decision was that? There was no overlap and not even the hint of an overlap. He's got to go.

                                      Id be surprised if he is still there next year ,

                                      I reckon they have brought him in , in the hope they can recapture his 2015 form , he was a revelation that year ,

                                      I think those injuries have taken their toll on him ,

                                      Not the same athlete

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                                        ALB looks like a monster in this photo

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                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        ALB looks like a monster in this photo

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                                        You talking about his face or size?

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                                        • SynicBastS SynicBast

                                          Best moment for me was after the game. Watching the Haka that Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi's family did was spine chilling stuff . Might even have got some dust in my eye watching that.

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                                          @synicbast said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                          Best moment for me was after the game. Watching the Haka that Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi's family did was spine chilling stuff . Might even have got some dust in my eye watching that.

                                          Yeah not sure how the air conditioner was leaking just as I was watching that...

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