Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

All Blacks v Springboks

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
allblacksspringboks
1.1k Posts 95 Posters 79.8k Views 6 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • MN5M Offline
    MN5M Offline
    MN5
    wrote on last edited by
    #15

    Can anyone confirm Hemopos height? @Canes4life does your expertise extend to non Hurricanes? He looks a bit sawn off to me particularly against the Boks.

    Canes4lifeC 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • antipodeanA antipodean

      @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

      @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

      @hooroo That's the go-fast stripe.

      Seems to work well...

      NMS's shirt didn't have it.

      V Offline
      V Offline
      Virgil
      wrote on last edited by
      #16

      @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

      @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

      @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

      @hooroo That's the go-fast stripe.

      Seems to work well...

      NMS's shirt didn't have it.

      His shirt could be covered completely in that strip and it wouldn’t make any difference

      MN5M 1 Reply Last reply
      2
      • V Virgil

        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

        @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

        @hooroo That's the go-fast stripe.

        Seems to work well...

        NMS's shirt didn't have it.

        His shirt could be covered completely in that strip and it wouldn’t make any difference

        MN5M Offline
        MN5M Offline
        MN5
        wrote on last edited by
        #17

        @virgil said in All Blacks v Springboks:

        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

        @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

        @hooroo That's the go-fast stripe.

        Seems to work well...

        NMS's shirt didn't have it.

        His shirt could be covered completely in that strip and it wouldn’t make any difference

        I've heard rumours that Caleb Ralph tweeted how slow he was

        antipodeanA JKJ 2 Replies Last reply
        5
        • MN5M MN5

          @virgil said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          @hooroo That's the go-fast stripe.

          Seems to work well...

          NMS's shirt didn't have it.

          His shirt could be covered completely in that strip and it wouldn’t make any difference

          I've heard rumours that Caleb Ralph tweeted how slow he was

          antipodeanA Offline
          antipodeanA Offline
          antipodean
          wrote on last edited by
          #18

          @mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          @virgil said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          @hooroo That's the go-fast stripe.

          Seems to work well...

          NMS's shirt didn't have it.

          His shirt could be covered completely in that strip and it wouldn’t make any difference

          I've heard rumours that Caleb Ralph tweeted how slow he was

          Fuck, that's harsh.

          MN5M 1 Reply Last reply
          1
          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @virgil said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @hooroo That's the go-fast stripe.

            Seems to work well...

            NMS's shirt didn't have it.

            His shirt could be covered completely in that strip and it wouldn’t make any difference

            I've heard rumours that Caleb Ralph tweeted how slow he was

            Fuck, that's harsh.

            MN5M Offline
            MN5M Offline
            MN5
            wrote on last edited by
            #19

            @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @virgil said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @hooroo That's the go-fast stripe.

            Seems to work well...

            NMS's shirt didn't have it.

            His shirt could be covered completely in that strip and it wouldn’t make any difference

            I've heard rumours that Caleb Ralph tweeted how slow he was

            Fuck, that's harsh.

            We're a cruel sporting nation. It builds character in our athletes.

            1 Reply Last reply
            1
            • boobooB booboo

              You'd think Hemopo, he was picked first. Could cover 6 at a pinch too.

              Stoked for Patty T though.

              Chris B.C Offline
              Chris B.C Offline
              Chris B.
              wrote on last edited by
              #20

              @booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

              You'd think Hemopo, he was picked first. Could cover 6 at a pinch too.

              Stoked for Patty T though.

              Pretty sure Hansen has said that they see Hemepo as primarily a 6 -though he was presumably also covering lock in his one test to date.

              According to ABs.com Hemepo is just 1.94 m - so apparently a centimetre shorter than Frizell.

              Interesting to see Tuipolotu called up ahead of Romano - who apparently has been in great form for Canterbury.

              Wonder how much their respective ages have to do with that. PT still just 25, but Romano 32.

              In any case - probably not the news Romano wanted to read.

              DuluthD 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                You'd think Hemopo, he was picked first. Could cover 6 at a pinch too.

                Stoked for Patty T though.

                Pretty sure Hansen has said that they see Hemepo as primarily a 6 -though he was presumably also covering lock in his one test to date.

                According to ABs.com Hemepo is just 1.94 m - so apparently a centimetre shorter than Frizell.

                Interesting to see Tuipolotu called up ahead of Romano - who apparently has been in great form for Canterbury.

                Wonder how much their respective ages have to do with that. PT still just 25, but Romano 32.

                In any case - probably not the news Romano wanted to read.

                DuluthD Offline
                DuluthD Offline
                Duluth
                wrote on last edited by
                #21

                @chris-b

                Romano has a calf strain

                Chris B.C 1 Reply Last reply
                1
                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @chris-b

                  Romano has a calf strain

                  Chris B.C Offline
                  Chris B.C Offline
                  Chris B.
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #22

                  @duluth doh!

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    CAn someone explain to me the shiny strip at the bottom of the AB's shirt? I notice not all AB's have it and wonder what the pros and cons of it are?

                    In this article you see Naholo with the strip and Read without

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/106952620/rugby-anarchy-as-all-blacks-performance-and-ambition-reach-a-level-no-team-has-ever-approached

                    dKD Offline
                    dKD Offline
                    dK
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #23

                    @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                    CAn someone explain to me the shiny strip at the bottom of the AB's shirt? I notice not all AB's have it and wonder what the pros and cons of it are?

                    In this article you see Naholo with the strip and Read without

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/106952620/rugby-anarchy-as-all-blacks-performance-and-ambition-reach-a-level-no-team-has-ever-approached

                    Its a rubberised strip that when the shirt is tucked in it will stay tucked in. Naholo chooses to wear his shirt untucked...heathen!

                    HoorooH 1 Reply Last reply
                    4
                    • BovidaeB Offline
                      BovidaeB Offline
                      Bovidae
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #24

                      Hemopo doesn't have any problems in SR so I don't think his lack of height would be an issue as the reserve lock. I remember seeing Savea winning a throw at the front on Sat (height jokes aside). Read is one of the main lineout targets and is similar to Hemopo. I'd be more worried about Harris finding his target.

                      As a comparison, while Etzebeth and Synman are giants, Mostert isn't that tall by Bok standards (1.98 m).

                      Chris B.C 1 Reply Last reply
                      1
                      • R Offline
                        R Offline
                        rustycruiser
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #25

                        I used to get up at 3:30AM to watch the Boks play the ABs in New Zealand every year. It's been about 6 years since then. Now I will DVR it, watch the first half at about 10AM whith the half time score being say 10-3 ABs, then fast forward through the second half when the ABs score 38 unanswered points.

                        That's what being a Bok fan has become. It's sad.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        3
                        • dKD dK

                          @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                          CAn someone explain to me the shiny strip at the bottom of the AB's shirt? I notice not all AB's have it and wonder what the pros and cons of it are?

                          In this article you see Naholo with the strip and Read without

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/106952620/rugby-anarchy-as-all-blacks-performance-and-ambition-reach-a-level-no-team-has-ever-approached

                          Its a rubberised strip that when the shirt is tucked in it will stay tucked in. Naholo chooses to wear his shirt untucked...heathen!

                          HoorooH Offline
                          HoorooH Offline
                          Hooroo
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #26

                          @dk said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                          @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                          CAn someone explain to me the shiny strip at the bottom of the AB's shirt? I notice not all AB's have it and wonder what the pros and cons of it are?

                          In this article you see Naholo with the strip and Read without

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/106952620/rugby-anarchy-as-all-blacks-performance-and-ambition-reach-a-level-no-team-has-ever-approached

                          Its a rubberised strip that when the shirt is tucked in it will stay tucked in. Naholo chooses to wear his shirt untucked...heathen!

                          Thanks mate! Makes sense

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                            @hooroo That's the go-fast stripe.

                            Seems to work well...

                            NMS's shirt didn't have it.

                            M Offline
                            M Offline
                            Machpants
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #27

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                            @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                            @hooroo That's the go-fast stripe.

                            Seems to work well...

                            NMS's shirt didn't have it.

                            Accidentally put his diving weights on instead

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            7
                            • MN5M MN5

                              Can anyone confirm Hemopos height? @Canes4life does your expertise extend to non Hurricanes? He looks a bit sawn off to me particularly against the Boks.

                              Canes4lifeC Offline
                              Canes4lifeC Offline
                              Canes4life
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #28

                              @mn5 About 6 ft 2!! 😛

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              2
                              • Chester DrawsC Offline
                                Chester DrawsC Offline
                                Chester Draws
                                wrote on last edited by Chester Draws
                                #29

                                [link text]https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12122553
                                How many years before the Herald work out that possession statistics are no measure of anything useful?

                                I predict the Boks will win the possession battle again. Little good it will do them though.

                                M 1 Reply Last reply
                                2
                                • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                  [link text]https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12122553
                                  How many years before the Herald work out that possession statistics are no measure of anything useful?

                                  I predict the Boks will win the possession battle again. Little good it will do them though.

                                  M Offline
                                  M Offline
                                  Machpants
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #30

                                  @chester-draws As I mentioned in another thread, blanket stats we get from media are almost all pointless. Kick percentage doesn't take into account kick difficulty, missed tackles are expected with rushing/swarming defensive systems, turnovers doesn't take into account the way the ABs are passing so close to contact, fast and in hard areas... I'm not saying that it's not better to have them on the normal 'good' side (no missed tackles, no missed shots, no dropped ball) but as raw numbers they are not great at judging what the team is trying to achieve. Metres run is another one, if the opposition kicks long a lot, you'll get heaps of metres - so what? Some are still useful as pure numbers (scrums, lineouts) but really there is not enough detail to use them to judge a team or a game.

                                  nzzpN 1 Reply Last reply
                                  2
                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @virgil said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @hooroo That's the go-fast stripe.

                                    Seems to work well...

                                    NMS's shirt didn't have it.

                                    His shirt could be covered completely in that strip and it wouldn’t make any difference

                                    I've heard rumours that Caleb Ralph tweeted how slow he was

                                    JKJ Offline
                                    JKJ Offline
                                    JK
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #31

                                    @mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @virgil said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @hooroo That's the go-fast stripe.

                                    Seems to work well...

                                    NMS's shirt didn't have it.

                                    His shirt could be covered completely in that strip and it wouldn’t make any difference

                                    I've heard rumours that Caleb Ralph tweeted how slow he was

                                    What did he tweet "Wow Nehe is even slower than me"???

                                    taniwharugbyT 1 Reply Last reply
                                    2
                                    • JKJ JK

                                      @mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @virgil said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @hooroo That's the go-fast stripe.

                                      Seems to work well...

                                      NMS's shirt didn't have it.

                                      His shirt could be covered completely in that strip and it wouldn’t make any difference

                                      I've heard rumours that Caleb Ralph tweeted how slow he was

                                      What did he tweet "Wow Nehe is even slower than me"???

                                      taniwharugbyT Offline
                                      taniwharugbyT Offline
                                      taniwharugby
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #32

                                      @jk not only that, but he was slower than @MN5

                                      MN5M JKJ 2 Replies Last reply
                                      2
                                      • M Machpants

                                        @chester-draws As I mentioned in another thread, blanket stats we get from media are almost all pointless. Kick percentage doesn't take into account kick difficulty, missed tackles are expected with rushing/swarming defensive systems, turnovers doesn't take into account the way the ABs are passing so close to contact, fast and in hard areas... I'm not saying that it's not better to have them on the normal 'good' side (no missed tackles, no missed shots, no dropped ball) but as raw numbers they are not great at judging what the team is trying to achieve. Metres run is another one, if the opposition kicks long a lot, you'll get heaps of metres - so what? Some are still useful as pure numbers (scrums, lineouts) but really there is not enough detail to use them to judge a team or a game.

                                        nzzpN Offline
                                        nzzpN Offline
                                        nzzp
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #33

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                        @chester-draws As I mentioned in another thread, blanket stats we get from media are almost all pointless.

                                        I agree completely. Wayne Smith used to basically ignore them, was only interested in dominant tackles. The stats are misleading, and I'd be very surprised if the coaches relied heavily on them other than as a informative background

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        2
                                        • BovidaeB Offline
                                          BovidaeB Offline
                                          Bovidae
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #34

                                          All stats around possession and territory need to be put into context. For example, time in the opposition's 22 only tells you where you are on the field, not what you are doing with the ball. A clinical attacking team might spend little time in the 22 because they take most of their scoring opportunities, whereas a team devoid of ideas might be camped in the opposition's 22 but never look like scoring a try.

                                          There are plenty of variations of this quote:

                                          Statistics are like mini-skirts .. they give you good ideas but they don't reveal everything.

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          3
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search