All Blacks v Springboks

antipodean

@hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Springboks:

i want SBW's job. Pulling in a massive pay packet for having the same impact on test matches that i am

Sweet! All you need to do is be fit, massive, talented and easy on the eye to ladies and some guys

Chris B.

Pretty predictable team - main surprise for me is seeing Coltman on the bench. But, in some ways that's not surprising because I'm sure Hansen is not missing what everyone else is seeing in terms of Harris' lineout throwing and patience must be wearing thin. Big chance for Coltman to edge his way ahead IMO.

Midfield was slightly surprising - I thought they'd be trying to get as many tests as possible into Goodhue, but as someone mentioned - they tend to give the young guys a break to reflect pretty quickly.

Jordie getting a run ahead of Naholo the other slight surprise, but I guess we were due for that re-arrangement.

mariner4life

@antipodean snap!!

And i can't believe i cocked it up. Dickhead

booboo

@nzzp said in All Blacks v Springboks:

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Springboks:

I know they have protocols and will have access to good medical advice, but I'd of been tempted to give Crotty and Cane the rest of TRC off.

Respectfully, this is classic Fern/Internet/Media naval gazing. I'm not having a pop at you - aimless speculation is what we're here for - but I'm OK with their call.

it's kind of: I know they have all the medical records and specialists giving us advice, but I think they are WRONG! It's a small step to THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU VACCINATE! WAKE UP SHEEPLE! YOUR GOVERNMENT IS LYING TO YOU!

There's a joke about boats but I can't think of it ...

Nepia

@bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks:

I would still prefer BFA to remain at fullback. SBW would have started but for his illness during the week. That tells us who their no.1 midfield combo is, as we all knew.

Happy that Harris has been put on notice.

I'd be happy, except Coltman has been selected. I didn't even know he was in the squad and he barely performs at Super level - has a bushy beard though (Hmm, does he still have his beard?)

akan004

@nepia I like the look of Samisoni Taukei'aho and Aumua of course. Both look to have far more potential than Harris and Coltman.

Bovidae

@nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks:

I'd be happy, except Coltman has been selected. I didn't even know he was in the squad and he barely performs at Super level - has a bushy beard though (Hmm, does he still have his beard?)

Maybe you've only got eyes for Dixon. Coltman's problem seems to be being injured regularly.

@akan004 Yeah, I'd really like Taukei'aho to get more opportunities at the Chiefs.

Nepia

@bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks:

@nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks:

I'd be happy, except Coltman has been selected. I didn't even know he was in the squad and he barely performs at Super level - has a bushy beard though (Hmm, does he still have his beard?)

Maybe you've only got eyes for Dixon. Coltman's problem seems to be being injured regularly.

@akan004 Yeah, I'd really like Taukei'aho to get more opportunities at the Chiefs.

I'm not a fan of Dixon (he's not born or bred Bay you know ) and don't think Coltman is any better than him.

The gap between Coles and Taylor to the next best seems gigantic at the moment.

Bovidae

@nepia Yes, ex CBHS captain.

Agree, there is the opportunity to find a good young 3rd hooker.

ACT Crusader

@duluth said in All Blacks v Springboks:

Things have changed quickly for Tuipulotu. A week and a half ago people were wondering when he'd return to the NPC

A massive show of faith by the AB selectors in Patty T. Good luck to the big man.

Whilst not being a standout, there’s two tests that I remember where his impact off the bench (along with Faumuina) were huge for us. Ball carrying and ruck work was superb.

Bones

@nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks:

@bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks:

I would still prefer BFA to remain at fullback. SBW would have started but for his illness during the week. That tells us who their no.1 midfield combo is, as we all knew.

Happy that Harris has been put on notice.

I'd be happy, except Coltman has been selected. I didn't even know he was in the squad and he barely performs at Super level - has a bushy beard though (Hmm, does he still have his beard?)

What? Barely performs? I get that you hate the South Island but making stuff up isn't going to help. He's often very good for the Highlanders and has been good in his AB appearances.

Bones

@act-crusader my outstanding memories of Tuipulotu coming on is some great lineout steals.

Machpants

@nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks:

The gap between Coles and Taylor to the next best seems gigantic at the moment.

The gap between a fit, pre injury Coles.... I hope like hell he comes back to full rampant 'Canes leading, back bamboozling, lose forward smashing, half back baiting awesomeness - but after his injuries and time off? I really can't see it sadly

Nepia

@bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

@nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks:

@bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks:

I would still prefer BFA to remain at fullback. SBW would have started but for his illness during the week. That tells us who their no.1 midfield combo is, as we all knew.

Happy that Harris has been put on notice.

I'd be happy, except Coltman has been selected. I didn't even know he was in the squad and he barely performs at Super level - has a bushy beard though (Hmm, does he still have his beard?)

What? Barely performs? I get that you hate the South Island but making stuff up isn't going to help. He's often very good for the Highlanders and has been good in his AB appearances.

I don't hate all of the South Island (yes, making up stuff doesn't help), I'll support the Highlanders unless they're playing the Chiefs and Otago unless they're playing the Magpies, but Coltman just isn't that good, as isn't Harris - as I've already noted the drop from our two top hookers to the rest of the pack is substantial.

He's not a clear selection over Ash Dixon for the Highlanders and Dixon isn't AB material.

@Machpants I think even a not rampaging Coles is a step up from the other contenders.

antipodean

@machpants said in All Blacks v Springboks:

@nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks:

The gap between Coles and Taylor to the next best seems gigantic at the moment.

The gap between a fit, pre injury Coles.... I hope like hell he comes back to full rampant 'Canes leading, back bamboozling, lose forward smashing, half back baiting awesomeness - but after his injuries and time off? I really can't see it sadly

We've seen what injuries and a couple of years off do to wingers.

mariner4life

Interestingly, given the discussion?bitch fest below, i just got an email from Rugby News (fuck knows why, i haven't had a subscription in 10 years?) and they are talking about a ~~Drederick Tatum~~ Ian Jones article about the 5 players we need fit for the World Cup next year.

One of the first names that popped in to my head was Taylor, and given the preview, he appears to be one of them.

If it was my article
Retallic
Read
Taylor
A Smith
Cane/Whitelock

They are the only guys i can think of that don't really have adequate replacements

Bones

@nepia Pearce off, you said he barely performs at super level, which is a load of shit. As I said, he's often very good, plus has been good for the ABs. Or are you going to make stuff up and say he's also poor for the ABs?

If you've got a problem with him being selected, who's your selection?

Stargazer

Springboks

15 Willie le Roux (Wasps, England), 47, 55 - 11t
14 Jesse Kriel (Vodacom Bulls), 33, 45 - 9t
13 Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks), 5, 5 - 1t
12 Damian de Allende (DHL Stormers), 31, 15 - 3t
11 Aphiwe Dyantyi (Emirates Lions), 6, 15 - 3t
10 Handré Pollard (Vodacom Bulls), 32, 254 - 3t, 46c, 46p, 3d
9 Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks, England), 17, 10 - 2t
8 Warren Whiteley (Emirates Lions), 20, 15 - 3t
7 Pieter-Steph du Toit (DHL Stormers), 39, 20 - 4t
6 Siya Kolisi (captain, DHL Stormers), 34, 25 - 5t
5 Franco Mostert (Gloucester, England), 23, 5 - 1t
4 Eben Etzebeth (DHL Stormers), 70 - 15 - 3t
3 Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers), 22, 0
2 Malcolm Marx (Emirates Lions), 17, 15 - 3t
1 Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers), 30, 5 - 1t

Replacements:
16 Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Stormers), 19, 10 - 2t
17 Tendai Mtawarira (Cell C Sharks), 104, 10 - 2t
18 Wilco Louw (DHL Stormers), 9, 0
19 RG Snyman (Vodacom Bulls), 5, 0
20 Francois Louw (Bath, England), 60, 45 - 9t
21 Ross Cronjé (Emirates Lions), 10, 10 - 2t
22 Elton Jantjies (Emirates Lions, 27, 223 - 2t, 42c, 43p
23 Cheslin Kolbe (Toulouse, France), 1, 0

Pollard comes into the starting line-up and Elton Jantjies is set to play off the bench. Jesse Kriel is picked on the right wing as a result of the injury to Makazole Mapimpi, who has returned to South Africa to undergo further scans on his right knee.

As a result, Am takes Kriel’s position at outside centre and partners Damian de Allende in a new-look midfield combination.

The only change to the pack sees Marx rotating starting places with Bongi Mbonambi in the No 2 jersey and amongst the reserves, Ross Cronje swaps places with Embrose Papier as the backup scrumhalf.

http://www.sarugby.co.za/article.aspx?category=sarugby/springboks&id=4384144

Nepia

@bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

@nepia Pearce off, you said he barely performs at super level, which is a load of shit. As I said, he's often very good, plus has been good for the ABs. Or are you going to make stuff up and say he's also poor for the ABs?

If you've got a problem with him being selected, who's your selection?

I don't have an alternative selection, as I said the gap is just big between the top two and the rest. I hope he plays better than Harris has been.

FFS, disagreeing with your fluffing of him isn't making things up. He's played two tests for the ABs and less than 30 minutes in total, hardly enough to make a judgement.

antipodean

Given the shower of shit the Springboks displayed last week after losing to Argentina, I'm not at all concerned about this weekend.

The Silver Fern

All Blacks v Springboks