All Blacks v Springboks
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@antipodean We will never know.
@stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean We will never know.
We know he was not great against a weaker opponent. Logical to assume he would have been worse against a fired up Bok side.
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@mokey said in All Blacks v Springboks:
BB is way, WAY too erratic with his goalkicking for an international 1st 5. And that has to be concerning for the coaches, because if someone else has to do it, backline reshuffle.
Jordie at 15, BFA at 14, JB does the kicks and DMac takes over when he comes on with fresh legs too.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Why are people saying "if we'd started Mo'unga"? Did they not watch his first test start?
Probably because a Mo'unga-BB 10 - 15 combo could have worked better than the BB-JB combo?
I'd never have started Mo'unga in this game but I'd have preferred him on the bench so that BB could drop back to 15 in the second half and RM could play at first five-eighth.
Would Mo’unga have taken over the kicking? DMac and JB are better kickers than BB, and even with BB having a particularly bad night with the boot Read didn’t give the ball to anyone else.
That was the most inexplicable thing to me, where was the captaincy to adjust when something was going wrong?
@kirwan said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Why are people saying "if we'd started Mo'unga"? Did they not watch his first test start?
Probably because a Mo'unga-BB 10 - 15 combo could have worked better than the BB-JB combo?
I'd never have started Mo'unga in this game but I'd have preferred him on the bench so that BB could drop back to 15 in the second half and RM could play at first five-eighth.
Would Mo’unga have taken over the kicking? DMac and JB are better kickers than BB, and even with BB having a particularly bad night with the boot Read didn’t give the ball to anyone else.
That was the most inexplicable thing to me, where was the captaincy to adjust when something was going wrong?
Put like that... why did the coach have the third best kicker in the 23 kicking goals from the start of the match....
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@bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Since when is a drop goal a sure thing? Especially with the way
Perenara was passingBeauden was kicking.FIFY
@mimic said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Since when is a drop goal a sure thing? Especially with the way
Perenara was passingBeauden was kicking.FIFY
DMac and Smith kicked zero.
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Beaudem Barrett fucking sucks
And so do his deadshit brothers
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Beaudem Barrett fucking sucks
And so do his deadshit brothers
Your boy ALB gave them a good run for stupidest player on the pitch. Butchering a try by ignoring A Smith on his outside, gifting SA a try with the dumbest intercept you'll see bar Jordies. So bad they subbed him instead of Crotty who was struggling for fitness.
Ah, it's good to have something to argue about again.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Let Dmac kick!
Why is it we amateurs could all see that?
@booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Let Dmac kick!
Why is it we amateurs could all see that?
Especially because he had positioned himself on the field for it. He was ready for it and waiting for the ball. When it didn't come, he gave up and moved forward and knocked the ball on ...
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@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Just checking ,has anyone who isn’t a crusaders fan said Mounga would have won us the game ?
I don't think anyone (full stop) has said Mo'unga would have won us the game.
@stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Just checking ,has anyone who isn’t a crusaders fan said Mounga would have won us the game ?
I don't think anyone (full stop) has said Mo'unga would have won us the game.
Yeah. Nah
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I think Patty T may have played his last test in an AB jersey. He tends to lose the ball in contact too much. And as much as Ofa has improved, who else was nervous every time a scrum packed down in the 2nd half?
@akan004 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
I think Patty T may have played his last test in an AB jersey. He tends to lose the ball in contact too much. And as much as Ofa has improved, who else was nervous every time a scrum packed down in the 2nd half?
Not me, Ofa was huge out there. Franks is a big concern IMO, and was deservedly yanked after 45mins.
Patrick also had a good game, some big runs and good tight work. Dropped one ball.
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@bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Why the fuck didn't they keep doing what they were doing? Fucken DMac.
I blame @booboo
Quick question: why?
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Last year with the Poite/Garces deal I was so disappointed to not find out how Beauden would go kicking a clutch goal on an off night.
I'm as disappointed here, with them not setting for a drop goal. We need to find this stuff out.
If we go all the way to a final, history shows DGs win you 1 or a couple of those knockout games.
Whatever are we prepping for? The EOYT Barbarians fixture?
One dimensional kids.
@rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Last year with the Poite/Garces deal I was so disappointed to not find out how Beauden would go kicking a clutch goal on an off night.
I'm as disappointed here, with them not setting for a drop goal. We need to find this stuff out.
If we go all the way to a final, history shows DGs win you 1 or a couple of those knockout games.
Whatever are we prepping for? The EOYT Barbarians fixture?
One dimensional kids.
DC's droppie against SA last RWC comes to mind...
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@derm-mccrum said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
This is one hell of a fucking game.
It is. Particularly for neutrals.
You're not neutral
You're for us, or you hate us
@booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@derm-mccrum said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
This is one hell of a fucking game.
It is. Particularly for neutrals.
You're not neutral
You're for us, or you hate us
Nah - there’s a third option. I love/hate New Zealand. And South Africa. And France (well mainly hate). And Argentina top of the pile.
See? Very neutral.
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Meh.... they will learn a lesson there. We were way below par. I am not remotely concerned.
Not actually that impressed with SA.@baron-silas-greenback said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Meh.... they will learn a lesson there. We were way below par. I am not remotely concerned.
Not actually that impressed with SA.I am concerned but agree with your lack of imoression with SA. How many points did we gift them? Both with gift intercepts and missed conversions. SA were not that good. Did score a couple of nice tries but take 22 off the margin and NZ win by 20.
But we dum
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Yeah mate , BB would have nailed a penalty right in front of the posts?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12125888
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@akan004 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
I think Patty T may have played his last test in an AB jersey. He tends to lose the ball in contact too much. And as much as Ofa has improved, who else was nervous every time a scrum packed down in the 2nd half?
Not me, Ofa was huge out there. Franks is a big concern IMO, and was deservedly yanked after 45mins.
Patrick also had a good game, some big runs and good tight work. Dropped one ball.
@kirwan said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@akan004 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
I think Patty T may have played his last test in an AB jersey. He tends to lose the ball in contact too much. And as much as Ofa has improved, who else was nervous every time a scrum packed down in the 2nd half?
Not me, Ofa was huge out there. Franks is a big concern IMO, and was deservedly yanked after 45mins.
Patrick also had a good game, some big runs and good tight work. Dropped one ball.
Patrick made two handling errors. He lost another one after he went to ground.
Ofa was fucking good though.
