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All Blacks v Springboks

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @rapido Wow look at those tackle counts.

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:

    @rapido Wow look at those tackle counts.

    Apart from the penalty count. The similarities to Cardiff 07 is quite strong.

    Dominate possession and territory. Bash bosh on the line instead of setting for the drop.

    I would think there's some good lessons here.

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    • RapidoR Rapido

      @chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:

      @rapido Wow look at those tackle counts.

      Apart from the penalty count. The similarities to Cardiff 07 is quite strong.

      Dominate possession and territory. Bash bosh on the line instead of setting for the drop.

      I would think there's some good lessons here.

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      @rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:

      @chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:

      @rapido Wow look at those tackle counts.

      Apart from the penalty count. The similarities to Cardiff 07 is quite strong.

      Dominate possession and territory. Bash bosh on the line instead of setting for the drop.

      I would think there's some good lessons here.

      Better to take our medicine now than in Japan next year

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      • RapidoR Rapido

        Match stats are amazing.

        NZ
        75% possession
        79 % territory

        Broken down second half:
        81% possession
        87% territory

        http://www.espn.com/rugby/matchstats?gameId=292793&league=244293

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        @rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:

        Match stats are amazing.

        NZ
        75% possession
        79 % territory

        Broken down second half:
        81% possession
        87% territory

        http://www.espn.com/rugby/matchstats?gameId=292793&league=244293

        2007 quarter final type stats.

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          Read needs to start practicing his drop-kicking. 😉

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          • RapidoR Rapido

            @chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @rapido Wow look at those tackle counts.

            Apart from the penalty count. The similarities to Cardiff 07 is quite strong.

            Dominate possession and territory. Bash bosh on the line instead of setting for the drop.

            I would think there's some good lessons here.

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            @rapido I thought the similarities to '99 were quite strong.

            From a position of strength, ship a bucketload of points in a very short time and don't give the ball to the guy who was on fire! 🙂

            Points shipped-wise, that might be the worst 25 minutes in AB history?

            The second 40 minutes vs France were worse, but the rate of scoring was probably a bit lower - though I watched it a year or so back and for a while all we were doing was carrying the ball back to halfway to kick off.

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              Ugh. Stupid media. Nigel didn't cost us the game. Us gifting the Boks at least two of their tries, BB not being able to hit the side of a barn with his goalkicking, and the lack of cool heads embracing the perfect setup for a DMac droppie lost us the game.

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                Watching the press conference Hansen and Foster aren't blaming the ref or missed goal kicks. Conceding 36 pts and 5 tries was the losing of the test.

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                • MokeyM Mokey

                  Ugh. Stupid media. Nigel didn't cost us the game. Us gifting the Boks at least two of their tries, BB not being able to hit the side of a barn with his goalkicking, and the lack of cool heads embracing the perfect setup for a DMac droppie lost us the game.

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                  @mokey said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                  Ugh. Stupid media. Nigel didn't cost us the game. Us gifting the Boks at least two of their tries, BB not being able to hit the side of a barn with his goalkicking, and the lack of cool heads embracing the perfect setup for a DMac droppie lost us the game.

                  technically, he did hit the side of the barn, twice, the ball just bounced away from the entrance 😉

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    Watching the press conference Hansen and Foster aren't blaming the ref or missed goal kicks. Conceding 36 pts and 5 tries was the losing of the test.

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                    @bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                    Watching the press conference Hansen and Foster aren't blaming the ref or missed goal kicks. Conceding 36 pts and 5 tries was the losing of the test.

                    Did anyone ask why no drop goal?

                    The post match show was terrible. Sumo, Cully and Batsey all so reluctant to criticise any players in fear of pissing off their “mates”

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                    • SammyCS SammyC

                      @bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                      Watching the press conference Hansen and Foster aren't blaming the ref or missed goal kicks. Conceding 36 pts and 5 tries was the losing of the test.

                      Did anyone ask why no drop goal?

                      The post match show was terrible. Sumo, Cully and Batsey all so reluctant to criticise any players in fear of pissing off their “mates”

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                      @sammyc

                      Yep, Read answers. I find that post-match show very painful to watch.

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                      • SammyCS SammyC

                        @bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                        Watching the press conference Hansen and Foster aren't blaming the ref or missed goal kicks. Conceding 36 pts and 5 tries was the losing of the test.

                        Did anyone ask why no drop goal?

                        The post match show was terrible. Sumo, Cully and Batsey all so reluctant to criticise any players in fear of pissing off their “mates”

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                        @sammyc I'd say the reason for no DG would be pretty simple; they havent practiced it (havent needed to 🤔 )

                        BB should spend some time with Fox over the next few days kicking goals, over and over.

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @nzzp said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                          Thoroughly good game, disappointing result, but I wasn't gutted - just a bit flat. Still slept like a baby, and I really think we're on the right track with this side.

                          Also, things I don't like: Justin Farking Marshall. That fella needs to get a lawbook sometime,and talk to some referees. Honestly, most times he opens his mouth he is flat out wrong.

                          Poor commentators lead to misinformation being widely spread in the casual rugby watching public. This is not good for the game, because (wider) it's always hometown bullshit. Example today in the Ferald: missed refs call costs All Blacks game. It's that shit - we lost because of our defence; blaming the ref gets you where the Wallabies are now; not owning their issues.

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                          @nzzp What are Sky doing about it? It's almost as though they encourage this type of commentator - the one who has to question everything even though he is wrong most of the time. JK is similar on The Breakdown. The smug piston wristed gibbon is rude, talks over people especially Jim Kayes and often talks total nonsense.

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                            @nzzp What are Sky doing about it? It's almost as though they encourage this type of commentator - the one who has to question everything even though he is wrong most of the time. JK is similar on The Breakdown. The smug piston wristed gibbon is rude, talks over people especially Jim Kayes and often talks total nonsense.

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                            @akan004 said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                            @nzzp What are Sky doing about it? It's almost as though they encourage this type of commentator - the one who has to question everything even though he is wrong most of the time. JK is similar on The Breakdown. The smug piston wristed gibbon is rude, talks over people especially Jim Hayes and often talks total nonsense.

                            Gives insight into his coaching...

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                            • RapidoR Rapido

                              @nzzp said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                              @rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                              What is this ref blunder the herald speak of?

                              I don't want to read from that piece of shit website/paper. Removed them ages ago from my bookmarks.

                              I find recall anything at the time in the match, maybe I was typing a TSF post at the time .....?

                              They claim in his headset the AR said something like 'Green 8 and 9 offside' when the ABs were hammering away. Hence, an easy 3 (if you aren't BB), and a win.

                              Right.

                              So good realistic RWC knockout prep. Tight finish, ref probably won't decide it for you ....

                              (Slight tangent. I don't like current refereeing applications where all teams are allowed to be 1m offside at every ruck, until, it gets to a few meres from the tryline and suddenly that white line cant have a toe cross it. It's too easy to score once you get close )

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                              @rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                              @nzzp said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                              @rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                              What is this ref blunder the herald speak of?

                              I don't want to read from that piece of shit website/paper. Removed them ages ago from my bookmarks.

                              I find recall anything at the time in the match, maybe I was typing a TSF post at the time .....?

                              They claim in his headset the AR said something like 'Green 8 and 9 offside' when the ABs were hammering away. Hence, an easy 3 (if you aren't BB), and a win.

                              Right.

                              So good realistic RWC knockout prep. Tight finish, ref probably won't decide it for you ....

                              (Slight tangent. I don't like current refereeing applications where all teams are allowed to be 1m offside at every ruck, until, it gets to a few meres from the tryline and suddenly that white line cant have a toe cross it**. It's too easy to score once you get close )**

                              Really? Tell fhe Bokke defence that...

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                I still think S Barrett is a luxury to have on the bench when both BBBR and Whitelock are playing. Both starting locks will play the 80 mins so Barrett will only go to lock in the event of an injury. At the moment he is replacing Squire at 6.

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                                @bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                I still think S Barrett is a luxury to have on the bench when both BBBR and Whitelock are playing. Both starting locks will play the 80 mins so Barrett will only go to lock in the event of an injury. At the moment he is replacing Squire at 6.

                                He’s not a luxury, more insurance. I wouldn’t like the fact that if one of said locks go down early that we are playing with some make shift blindside at lock.

                                Barrett has played well as a backup blindside when he’s come on. His presence at lineout time has helped us win opposition ball. Has a high work rate in support that has lead to tries.

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                                  I don't care what changes need to be made - whether that means DMac to fullback or Mo'unga to 1st Five, but I want to see either of these two being our regular goalkicker - not BB. He's had too many chances and is consistently inconsistent.

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                                    @rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    What is this ref blunder the herald speak of?

                                    I don't want to read from that piece of shit website/paper. Removed them ages ago from my bookmarks.

                                    I find recall anything at the time in the match, maybe I was typing a TSF post at the time .....?

                                    They claim in his headset the AR said something like 'Green 8 and 9 offside' when the ABs were hammering away. Hence, an easy 3 (if you aren't BB), and a win.

                                    Right.

                                    So good realistic RWC knockout prep. Tight finish, ref probably won't decide it for you ....

                                    (Slight tangent. I don't like current refereeing applications where all teams are allowed to be 1m offside at every ruck, until, it gets to a few meres from the tryline and suddenly that white line cant have a toe cross it**. It's too easy to score once you get close )**

                                    Really? Tell fhe Bokke defence that...

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                                    @booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    What is this ref blunder the herald speak of?

                                    I don't want to read from that piece of shit website/paper. Removed them ages ago from my bookmarks.

                                    I find recall anything at the time in the match, maybe I was typing a TSF post at the time .....?

                                    They claim in his headset the AR said something like 'Green 8 and 9 offside' when the ABs were hammering away. Hence, an easy 3 (if you aren't BB), and a win.

                                    Right.

                                    So good realistic RWC knockout prep. Tight finish, ref probably won't decide it for you ....

                                    (Slight tangent. I don't like current refereeing applications where all teams are allowed to be 1m offside at every ruck, until, it gets to a few meres from the tryline and suddenly that white line cant have a toe cross it**. It's too easy to score once you get close )**

                                    Really? Tell fhe Bokke defence that...

                                    That's because Owen's was relaxed on it. That's why I said I was going off on a tangent.

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                                      @rocky-rockbottom said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      couldnt sleep after that. must say you guys are taking this remarkably well.

                                      Even with the AB's "our own harshest critics" party line, and given the dealing with millenials thing, and the never losign thing, and super-wise guru Hansen having been in the job for eons, I wonder if he ever really brings the fucken hammer down.

                                      "Jordie, you can go sit in the fucken stands next week, this isn't some tenured succession rite that's your divine right by virtue of your fucken bloodline. Beaudy, you and DMac can decide who wants to sit on the end of the fucken bench and pray you're the fucken fullback impact sub for 20 minutes cos both you helter skelter rudderless nimrods are about 10 million rungs below Ben Smith. Rieko and Wais to the wings.

                                      "TJ, you got ran down by a fucking number 8. Yes, a fucking big fat forward. Go take a lap. Where's your cool hongi now fluffybunny?

                                      "When I saw a waiting pod of Karl T, Pat T and Ofa I turned to Fozzie and said 'fuck me we're gonna fucken lose this.' If 3 Auckland Blues gather within a radius of 5 metres it's basic physics that you instantly have an inescapable Bermuda Triangle of fluffybunnies into which the hopes and dreams of a nation will suddenly vanish and die. I'm half of a mind to buy the whole Blues franchise just to shoot the fucking thing into space. Maybe biff it on Musk's next rocket to fucking Mars. Even the Martian microbe XV might hold onto the fucken ball more often than Ofa does. And those little microbe fluffybunnies don't even have fucken arms or legs

                                      "Oh, one last thing, Richie is currently en route here in his chopper. He said he is going to confiscate ALL last nights test caps and burn them on a ceremonial fucking pyre. He said he is then going to use his chopper rotors to decapitate, in his words, 'the fluffybunny in the 10 jersey'. Richard Hugh Mccaw did not play through 280 test match wins with a loose bolt in his foot so some precious back fluffybunny could casually shank 4 piss-easy kicks on his home fucking ground vs the fucking boks."

                                      You have a calling. Sports humor section or something. Seriously funny.

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                                      • F Frank

                                        I don't care what changes need to be made - whether that means DMac to fullback or Mo'unga to 1st Five, but I want to see either of these two being our regular goalkicker - not BB. He's had too many chances and is consistently inconsistent.

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                                        @frank he's played 66 tests for the AB's and his kicking has cost us how many?

                                        Can't see them changing too much TBH.

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                                          I don't care what changes need to be made - whether that means DMac to fullback or Mo'unga to 1st Five, but I want to see either of these two being our regular goalkicker - not BB. He's had too many chances and is consistently inconsistent.

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                                          Squire will miss the rest of the RC. Hope they bring in Akira.

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