Pumas vs All Blacks

[pukunui]

Outside Read and Cane our loosies are by far the biggest weakness in our team.
The continued non selection of Todd doesn't help.
Fifita FFS.

[Machpants]

Even Cane has not been that great last few tests, not his normal dominant self.

[No Quarter]

What the fuck is Fifita "I don't like doing hard work" doing there ahead of Akira.

[Machpants]

Yeah it's bizarre, hard to say as a Canes fan, but Fafita and NMS shouldn't be in the squad. Akira (he's an 8 FFS, we've got two other so called 6's) and Mr A N Other awesome young and FAST NZ winger (take your pick)

[Bovidae]

I find it surprising that L Whitelock won't start at no.8 when he was used in the French series when Read was injured.

If he doesn't, why the fuck is he in the squad?

[Crucial]

@bovidae said in Pumas vs All Blacks:

I find it surprising that L Whitelock won't start at no.8 when he was used in the French series when Read was injured.

If he doesn't, why the fuck is he in the squad?

Do you mean you 'would find it surprising'?

The team hasn't been named yet....(when is that by the way?)

[Machpants]

@crucial According to the McKendry on the Herald "The All Blacks starting loose forwards against Argentina a week on Sunday are likely to consist of Shannon Frizell – probably at No 8 – Jackson Hemopo and Sam Cane. Frizell and Hemopo have three tests between them."

I reckon it'll be Whitelock at 8, for experience, in leadership and internationals both. They'll have a raw 6 of Frizzle or Hemopo, I really can;t see both starting

[Bovidae]

@crucial Basing my comment on what McKendry said, assuming he is correct.

[booboo]

Crucial said:

@bovidae said in Pumas vs All Blacks:

I find it surprising that L Whitelock won't start at no.8 when he was used in the French series when Read was injured.

If he doesn't, why the fuck is he in the squad?

Do you mean you 'would find it surprising'?

The team hasn't been named yet....(when is that by the way?)

I'll bite! Thu ... thur ... thurs .. day?

[ACT Crusader]

Frizzell, Cane, L. Whitelock.

Not too concerned about the loosies. We just better pick some pace in the centres and 3/4s

[Nepia]

Rocky Rockbottom said:

6 Hemopo
7 Cane
8 Frizzle

ok, now that would be a test.

not saying that trio have got "first ever test loss to the Argies" written all over them but FFS HOLD ME MUMMY

still, rather Bum Splinters Frizzle than Luke Shitelock.

Why would you include Cane? Savea at 7 in that trio - now THAT would be a test.

I'm not sure why people are surprised about Fifita, Hansen clearly has a thing for running wide Tongan 6s. Why he doesn't like running and tackling Samoan-Maori guys is the big question. Well, actually, he does like one of them, just not the one who plays in the forwards.

[Crucial]

Does the Frizz even play 8?
Serious question as I’ve only seen him play 6 or sideline

[Tim]

@crucial Played at 8 against North Harbour a few weeks ago. Don't think he's played there much though.

[Darren]

I am bewildered that we select Fafita, and not give an opportunity to A Ioane. Why not at least give him a run off the bench?

[Crucial]

Darren Nicholson said:

I am bewildered that we select Fafita, and not give an opportunity to A Ioane. Why not at least give him a run off the bench?

Because he isn’t on the payroll.
Fifita at least deserves a shot.
Not saying Akira doesn’t just that his time hasn’t come yet. They obviously have plans to mature him more before using him. They have had him at enough camps to decide the best plan.

[Crucial]

Tim said:

@crucial Played at 8 against North Harbour a few weeks ago. Don't think he's played there much though.

Which is why I am wondering why everyone is thinking a newspaper article is true.
Although I reckon Frizz has dibs on the the backup 6 job. Maybe this could be looking forward to the RWC where we may need some versatility in the loosies

[No Quarter]

Crucial said:

Darren Nicholson said:

I am bewildered that we select Fafita, and not give an opportunity to A Ioane. Why not at least give him a run off the bench?

Because he isn’t on the payroll.
Fifita at least deserves a shot.
Not saying Akira doesn’t just that his time hasn’t come yet. They obviously have plans to mature him more before using him. They have had him at enough camps to decide the best plan.

Like the fuck selectors know better than the Fern collective. They are wrong, we are right. End of.

[Frank]

Crucial said:

Does the Frizz even play 8?
Serious question as I’ve only seen him play 6 or sideline

He's superb on the bench.

[akan004]

Darren Nicholson said:

I am bewildered that we select Fafita, and not give an opportunity to A Ioane. Why not at least give him a run off the bench?

Agreed, especially when you consider an average player like Luke Whitelock gets a spot. NMS's selection is also a ridiculous one. The guy has lost so much of pace it's not funny. Granted the three wise men have done an exceptional job over the years but they are not perfect and do make some bad calls every now and again.

[MN5]

Nepia said:

Rocky Rockbottom said:

6 Hemopo
7 Cane
8 Frizzle

ok, now that would be a test.

not saying that trio have got "first ever test loss to the Argies" written all over them but FFS HOLD ME MUMMY

still, rather Bum Splinters Frizzle than Luke Shitelock.

Why would you include Cane? Savea at 7 in that trio - now THAT would be a test.

I'm not sure why people are surprised about Fifita, Hansen clearly has a thing for running wide Tongan 6s. Why he doesn't like running and tackling Samoan-Maori guys is the big question. Well, actually, he does like one of them, just not the one who plays in the forwards.

Yeah Fifita has some freakish power and pace. At least equal to A Ioane who I have yet to see jump over a tackler at Mitre 10 cup level.