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Pumas vs All Blacks

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    Machpants
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    #109

    What I find utter bollox is his assertion that "It now wouldn't be a disaster to see the All Blacks lose to Argentina on Sunday (NZ time). Rugby's world order wouldn't suddenly change and no-one would assume New Zealand is on the slide." Utter rubbish because one loss is acceptable, just, but two in a row or two vs the same team in one year would be the end of the world. Every one would assume the ABs are on the slide of the ABs lost like that. And they're be right because it is not something we have done for ages. Just bizarre to think otherwise, and to lose to Argentina would be utterly unacceptable to the rugby public. Especially straight after a dire show of moronic rugby vs the boks (as much as enjoyed the match, No way I can go back and watch it again without throwing my teddies out)

    Journalist are tits.

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      #110

      So his pack would be:

      1. Tim Perry
      2. Nathan Harris
      3. Ofa Tu'ungafasi
      4. Scott Barrett
      5. Patrick Tuipulotu
      6. Shannon Frizell
      7. Ardie Savea
      8. Luke Whitelock

      Yikes.

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/107342919/how-radical-are-the-all-blacks-set-to-go-with-selections-against-argentina

        Bidwell almost seems to be suggesting that we field our weakest possible team to see how we get on.

        The genie that isn't out of the bottle is never having lost to Argentina - and that's not one that can be put back in once it's happened.

        Look at the Irish - they're fancying themselves to knock us over later this year and in Japan if it comes to it. 🙂

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        #111

        Chris B. said:

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/107342919/how-radical-are-the-all-blacks-set-to-go-with-selections-against-argentina

        Bidwell almost seems to be suggesting that we field our weakest possible team to see how we get on.

        The genie that isn't out of the bottle is never having lost to Argentina - and that's not one that can be put back in once it's happened.

        Look at the Irish - they're fancying themselves to knock us over later this year and in Japan if it comes to it. 🙂

        Wales have beaten us before ...

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        • boobooB booboo

          Chris B. said:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/107342919/how-radical-are-the-all-blacks-set-to-go-with-selections-against-argentina

          Bidwell almost seems to be suggesting that we field our weakest possible team to see how we get on.

          The genie that isn't out of the bottle is never having lost to Argentina - and that's not one that can be put back in once it's happened.

          Look at the Irish - they're fancying themselves to knock us over later this year and in Japan if it comes to it. 🙂

          Wales have beaten us before ...

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          MN5
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          #112

          booboo said:

          Chris B. said:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/107342919/how-radical-are-the-all-blacks-set-to-go-with-selections-against-argentina

          Bidwell almost seems to be suggesting that we field our weakest possible team to see how we get on.

          The genie that isn't out of the bottle is never having lost to Argentina - and that's not one that can be put back in once it's happened.

          Look at the Irish - they're fancying themselves to knock us over later this year and in Japan if it comes to it. 🙂

          Wales have beaten us before ...

          Yeah, before Rock n Roll was invented.

          Jesus Christ

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          • MN5M MN5

            booboo said:

            Chris B. said:

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/107342919/how-radical-are-the-all-blacks-set-to-go-with-selections-against-argentina

            Bidwell almost seems to be suggesting that we field our weakest possible team to see how we get on.

            The genie that isn't out of the bottle is never having lost to Argentina - and that's not one that can be put back in once it's happened.

            Look at the Irish - they're fancying themselves to knock us over later this year and in Japan if it comes to it. 🙂

            Wales have beaten us before ...

            Yeah, before Rock n Roll was invented.

            Jesus Christ

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            MiketheSnow
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            #113

            MN5 said:

            booboo said:

            Chris B. said:

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/107342919/how-radical-are-the-all-blacks-set-to-go-with-selections-against-argentina

            Bidwell almost seems to be suggesting that we field our weakest possible team to see how we get on.

            The genie that isn't out of the bottle is never having lost to Argentina - and that's not one that can be put back in once it's happened.

            Look at the Irish - they're fancying themselves to knock us over later this year and in Japan if it comes to it. 🙂

            Wales have beaten us before ...

            Yeah, before Rock n Roll was invented.

            Jesus Christ

            🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

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              #114

              Of course the journos would love to see the ABs lose because it gives them a more interesting story to write for Monday morning.

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              • MN5M MN5

                booboo said:

                Chris B. said:

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/107342919/how-radical-are-the-all-blacks-set-to-go-with-selections-against-argentina

                Bidwell almost seems to be suggesting that we field our weakest possible team to see how we get on.

                The genie that isn't out of the bottle is never having lost to Argentina - and that's not one that can be put back in once it's happened.

                Look at the Irish - they're fancying themselves to knock us over later this year and in Japan if it comes to it. 🙂

                Wales have beaten us before ...

                Yeah, before Rock n Roll was invented.

                Jesus Christ

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                booboo
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                #115

                MN5 said:

                booboo said:

                Chris B. said:

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/107342919/how-radical-are-the-all-blacks-set-to-go-with-selections-against-argentina

                Bidwell almost seems to be suggesting that we field our weakest possible team to see how we get on.

                The genie that isn't out of the bottle is never having lost to Argentina - and that's not one that can be put back in once it's happened.

                Look at the Irish - they're fancying themselves to knock us over later this year and in Japan if it comes to it. 🙂

                Wales have beaten us before ...

                Yeah, before Rock n Roll was invented.

                Jesus Christ

                Twice!

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                • TimT Tim

                  So his pack would be:

                  1. Tim Perry
                  2. Nathan Harris
                  3. Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                  4. Scott Barrett
                  5. Patrick Tuipulotu
                  6. Shannon Frizell
                  7. Ardie Savea
                  8. Luke Whitelock

                  Yikes.

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                  Gunner
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #116

                  Tim said:

                  So his pack would be:

                  1. Tim Perry
                  2. Nathan Harris
                  3. Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                  4. Scott Barrett
                  5. Patrick Tuipulotu
                  6. Shannon Frizell
                  7. Ardie Savea
                  8. Luke Whitelock

                  Yikes.

                  Which super rugby team is this?

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                  • G Gunner

                    Tim said:

                    So his pack would be:

                    1. Tim Perry
                    2. Nathan Harris
                    3. Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                    4. Scott Barrett
                    5. Patrick Tuipulotu
                    6. Shannon Frizell
                    7. Ardie Savea
                    8. Luke Whitelock

                    Yikes.

                    Which super rugby team is this?

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                    ACT Crusader
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                    #117

                    Gunner said:

                    Tim said:

                    So his pack would be:

                    1. Tim Perry
                    2. Nathan Harris
                    3. Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                    4. Scott Barrett
                    5. Patrick Tuipulotu
                    6. Shannon Frizell
                    7. Ardie Savea
                    8. Luke Whitelock

                    Yikes.

                    Which super rugby team is this?

                    The one that gets beaten by a decent NPC side...

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                      Bovidae
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                      #118

                      Damian McKenzie has been ruled out of the Rugby Championship test against Argentina on Sunday due to a family bereavement.

                      He will return to the side for the South Africa leg.

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                        antipodean
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                        #119

                        That's sad. He makes a real point of difference when he comes on late in games.

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                          Bovidae
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                          #120

                          It might also mean more changes to the 23. Mo'unga will come onto the bench but JB won't be needed if he was to be named in the squad as BB would now cover 15, instead of DMac moving there in the 2nd half and BFA going to the right wing.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            That's sad. He makes a real point of difference when he comes on late in games.

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                            Nepia
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                            #121

                            antipodean said:

                            That's sad. He makes a real point of difference when he comes on late in games.

                            I think he was going to get a start at 15 on no evidential basis of course, just Mabo.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              antipodean said:

                              That's sad. He makes a real point of difference when he comes on late in games.

                              I think he was going to get a start at 15 on no evidential basis of course, just Mabo.

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                              taniwharugby
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                              #122

                              @nepia I reckon he was gonna start 9 in this test, just a feeling..guess we will never know now though

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                                akan004
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                                #123

                                Could be an ugly match to watch. Thunderstorms are forecasted for Saturday night in BA.

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                                  KiwiMurph
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                                  #124

                                  http://www.allblacks.com/News/33148/all-blacks-team-named-for-buenos-aires-test

                                  The matchday 23 is as follows (with Test caps in brackets. * new cap):
                                  
                                  1. Karl Tu'inukuafe (7) 
                                  2. Codie Taylor (36) 
                                  3. Ofa Tuungafasi (20) 
                                  4. Samuel Whitelock (103) - captain  
                                  5. Scott Barrett (23) 
                                  6. Shannon Frizell (3) 
                                  7. Sam Cane (58) 
                                  8. Luke Whitelock (6)
                                  9. TJ Perenara (49)  
                                  10. Beauden Barrett (67) 
                                  11. Rieko Ioane (18) 
                                  12. Sonny Bill Williams (47) 
                                  13. Ryan Crotty (39) 
                                  14. Waisake Naholo (22) 
                                  15. Ben Smith (72) 
                                  
                                  16. Nathan Harris (16)
                                  17. Tim Perry (3) 
                                  18. Angus Ta'avao * 
                                  19. Patrick Tuipulotu (17) 
                                  20. Ardie Savea (29) 
                                  21. Aaron Smith (77) 
                                  22. Richie Mo'unga (2) 
                                  23. Anton Lienert-Brown (28)
                                  

                                  ALB better be ready to play some long minutes.

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                                    #125

                                    Jesus, it's the year for props to have an early Christmas isn't it?

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                                    • TimT Offline
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                                      Tim
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                                      #126

                                      Well it's a strong backline ...

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                                        Machpants
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                                        #127

                                        If the weather is shite it'll be tough and Beaudy better have his tactical kicking boots on! SBW will have to play 80 when Crotty goes off early, or Reiko to 13....
                                        @Tim I think the front row is fine too. Locks and loosies will have to step up in the tackle/break down.

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                                          Stargazer
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                                          #128

                                          The reserve front-row is a worry.

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