Pumas vs All Blacks
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@crazy-horse I reckon Hansen and Co still regard SBW and Crotty as their top combo - and ALB is their best midfield utility (actually it's Crotty, but he's down to start).
I'd say they see Goodhue as their second best centre and Crotty as their best centre and second best second five.
IMO...
2nd five
SBW
Crotty
Laumape (possibly generous)
ALB
Goodhue (possibly generous)Centre
Crotty
Goodhue
ALB
SBW (possibly generous)
Laumape (probably generous) -
@chris-b I hope you are wrong.
@crazy-horse Another Super season to go before RWC, so things can still change.
Goodhue is the long term option IMO, but I can understand Hansen backing experience.
That Jack has barely put a foot wrong so far, doesn't mean he's not going to.
He's one of those guys though that, when the heat is on, you just want to see the ball in his hands, or that he's the one lining up to make the crucial tackle.
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@chris-b then they know fuck all
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All sorts of nice would be a fit SBW with Goodhue at 13 and ALB on the bench. But I think it’s reasonable to give SBW and Crotty a shot.
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What are the chances that both SBW and Crotty will be fit next year? The way both have been breaking one may not make it so o expect Hansen and co will be managing that aspect with ALB and Goodhue too.
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What are the chances that both SBW and Crotty will be fit next year? The way both have been breaking one may not make it so o expect Hansen and co will be managing that aspect with ALB and Goodhue too.
@taniwharugby I would bet your house on it, but not mine.
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Goodhue very rarely gets it wrong. When he does it's almost a holy fuck moment. The kid is a natural test player.
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Crazy Horse said:
Goodhue very rarely gets it wrong. When he does it's almost a holy fuck moment. The kid is a natural test player.
Not only that, he defends like a demon and makes great choices in attack.
Dead. Set. Legend.
@nzzp yep. And it's not the big hits either. Right place, right time. Defence and attack.
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@mg yeah it went well against France. It could be argued it was SBW's best game in black, especially given his lack if game time.
@crazy-horse Hopefully next week against boks
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Date: Saturday, September 29
Venue: Jose Amalfitani Stadium, Buenos Aires
Kick-off: 19.40 (22.40 GMT; 11.40 NZ time Sunday, September 30)
Referee: Mathieu Raynal (France)
Assistant referees: Jaco Peyper (South Africa), Marius van der Westhuizen (South Africa)
TMO: David Grashoff (England)
Anybody nervous about this lot? -
I wonder where Goodhue sits in the view of the selectors? Surely he has to be the number one 13. SBW and Crotty fighting it out to partner him.?
Crazy Horse said:
I wonder where Goodhue sits in the view of the selectors? Surely he has to be the number one 13. SBW and Crotty fighting it out to partner him.?
Think Hansen & co. might be seeing Goodhue & ALB as one pair and Crotty/SBW as the other pair (with ALB coming on for Crotty after 15 minutes....)
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Donsteppa said:
Hansen seems determined to live dangerously.
Better now than in 12 months time in Japan.
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Donsteppa said:
Hansen seems determined to live dangerously.
Now's the time for some spreading of experience and rolling of the die. But Hansen is always talking about the faith in our squad, and it's not like it was the dirty dirties who stuffed up in Welly. Amazing to think only two, I think, guys also started the RWC final 3 years ago!
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Duluth said:
Bones said:
Wow, good on Ta'avao! What a year for him. I'm not that worried about the FR, apart from hooker. Perry has shown he deserves to be there so far, Ta'avao has been very good this year.
Every prop is either a current or former Blues player. Three of them deserve to be there. Perry is a steaming pile of poo
That's a bit harsh on Perry.
I'm no great fan of him and still somewhat amazed that he's risen to All Black heights, but he's not let us down in any of his AB starts - not yet anyway. Steaming pile of poo is a bit shit!
Has to be said, though, that Tu'inukuafe has been the find of the season and I reckon Hansen is breathing considerably easier seeing him make every post so far a winner.
He can plan around Moody and Franks being his big game starters, with Tu'inukuafe and Tu'ungafasi capable of playing both sides at a pinch (though I'd rather not see the theory on Ofa at loosehead tested in a big game) and then, hopefully, fit Laulala and Hames in the mix next year plus Perry, Toomaga-Allen and Ta'avao as somewhat dodgy options if necessary.
Chris B. said:
Duluth said:
Bones said:
Wow, good on Ta'avao! What a year for him. I'm not that worried about the FR, apart from hooker. Perry has shown he deserves to be there so far, Ta'avao has been very good this year.
Every prop is either a current or former Blues player. Three of them deserve to be there. Perry is a steaming pile of poo
That's a bit harsh on Perry.
I'm no great fan of him and still somewhat amazed that he's risen to All Black heights, but he's not let us down in any of his AB starts - not yet anyway. Steaming pile of poo is a bit shit!
Has to be said, though, that Tu'inukuafe has been the find of the season and I reckon Hansen is breathing considerably easier seeing him make every post so far a winner.
He can plan around Moody and Franks being his big game starters, with Tu'inukuafe and Tu'ungafasi capable of playing both sides at a pinch (though I'd rather not see the theory on Ofa at loosehead tested in a big game) and then, hopefully, fit Laulala and Hames in the mix next year plus Perry, Toomaga-Allen and Ta'avao as somewhat dodgy options if necessary.
Moli
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Chris B. said:
Duluth said:
Bones said:
Wow, good on Ta'avao! What a year for him. I'm not that worried about the FR, apart from hooker. Perry has shown he deserves to be there so far, Ta'avao has been very good this year.
Every prop is either a current or former Blues player. Three of them deserve to be there. Perry is a steaming pile of poo
That's a bit harsh on Perry.
I'm no great fan of him and still somewhat amazed that he's risen to All Black heights, but he's not let us down in any of his AB starts - not yet anyway. Steaming pile of poo is a bit shit!
Has to be said, though, that Tu'inukuafe has been the find of the season and I reckon Hansen is breathing considerably easier seeing him make every post so far a winner.
He can plan around Moody and Franks being his big game starters, with Tu'inukuafe and Tu'ungafasi capable of playing both sides at a pinch (though I'd rather not see the theory on Ofa at loosehead tested in a big game) and then, hopefully, fit Laulala and Hames in the mix next year plus Perry, Toomaga-Allen and Ta'avao as somewhat dodgy options if necessary.
Moli
booboo said:
Chris B. said:
Duluth said:
Bones said:
Wow, good on Ta'avao! What a year for him. I'm not that worried about the FR, apart from hooker. Perry has shown he deserves to be there so far, Ta'avao has been very good this year.
Every prop is either a current or former Blues player. Three of them deserve to be there. Perry is a steaming pile of poo
That's a bit harsh on Perry.
I'm no great fan of him and still somewhat amazed that he's risen to All Black heights, but he's not let us down in any of his AB starts - not yet anyway. Steaming pile of poo is a bit shit!
Has to be said, though, that Tu'inukuafe has been the find of the season and I reckon Hansen is breathing considerably easier seeing him make every post so far a winner.
He can plan around Moody and Franks being his big game starters, with Tu'inukuafe and Tu'ungafasi capable of playing both sides at a pinch (though I'd rather not see the theory on Ofa at loosehead tested in a big game) and then, hopefully, fit Laulala and Hames in the mix next year plus Perry, Toomaga-Allen and Ta'avao as somewhat dodgy options if necessary.
Moli
Sorry I'm now in full Powers mode...
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@crazy-horse I reckon Hansen and Co still regard SBW and Crotty as their top combo - and ALB is their best midfield utility (actually it's Crotty, but he's down to start).
I'd say they see Goodhue as their second best centre and Crotty as their best centre and second best second five.
IMO...
2nd five
SBW
Crotty
Laumape (possibly generous)
ALB
Goodhue (possibly generous)Centre
Crotty
Goodhue
ALB
SBW (possibly generous)
Laumape (probably generous)Chris B. said:
@crazy-horse I reckon Hansen and Co still regard SBW and Crotty as their top combo - and ALB is their best midfield utility (actually it's Crotty, but he's down to start).
I'd say they see Goodhue as their second best centre and Crotty as their best centre and second best second five.
IMO...
2nd five
SBW
Crotty
Laumape (possibly generous)
ALB
Goodhue (possibly generous)Centre
Crotty
Goodhue
ALB
SBW (possibly generous)
Laumape (probably generous)I wonder if that was what they thought they thought at the start of yhe season and they're doing their thing of letting the incumbents prove themselves (or otherwise).
Have yo say Goodhue looks number 1 midfielder to me.
