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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #79

    <p>I need to get me some of those elastic cords to assist me....still suck at pull ups!</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I did Fran a few times now (didn't know it had a name) at home, and very close to vomiting.</p>

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  • MilkM Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Kirwan" data-cid="427363" data-time="1399499479">
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    <p>Yep, it really sucks. It's one of those ones that hurts when you stop, forearms and lungs. People refer to Fran Cough a lot as well, and it's a puke friendly workout. It's a terrible, terrible combination. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The first Crossfit workout.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>It was the first workout you did? AND you went back!?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>TR- yeah I'm stuck on the bands too... embarassing :)</p>

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  • JKJ Offline
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    #81

    <p>Fran was first crossfit workout I ever did too</p>

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    #82

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Milk" data-cid="427369" data-time="1399501941">
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    <p>It was the first workout you did? AND you went back!?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>TR- yeah I'm stuck on the bands too... embarassing :)</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>No, it's the first workout Greg Classman ("Coach") designed. Here's a good video about it;</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>

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    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm not sure what my firs workout was, but because I record everything I might be able to work it out.</p>

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  • NTAN Offline
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    #83

    <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="427367" data-time="1399501580"><p>I need to get me some of those elastic cords to assist me....still suck at pull ups!<br />
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    I did Fran a few times now (didn't know it had a name) at home, and very close to vomiting.</p></blockquote>
    <br />
    Do negatives - will help a lot. Don't be afraid to cheat into the last couple of reps too.<br />
    <br />
    The main thing, like pushups, is doing them regularly. I can build up to a starting set of 7 or 8 if I'm doing them a couple of times a week, but take a week off and I'm back to 4-5

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    Edit: In truth, I know nothing about Fran, doubt I could complete the workout under 10 minutes, so will keep my sarcasm to myself and butt out of this thread. Carry on, gents.

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Wairau" data-cid="427504" data-time="1399558748">
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    <p>Edit: In truth, I know nothing about Fran, doubt I could complete the workout under 10 minutes, so will keep my sarcasm to myself and butt out of this thread. Carry on, gents.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Can only assume that you made some sort of comment on pullups / kipping etc?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Aware....</p>

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  • WairauW Offline
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    Ah, yes. Then I read further up the page, googled some amazing examples of people completing Fran in the time it takes me to brush my teeth, and had a quick rethink of my lack of perspective.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Its a pretty common criticism of Crossfit. We do different types of pullups to achieve different goals. <br /><br />We use strict and weighted strict pull ups to build strength. We use kipping and butterfly pull ups to get our chins over the bar. <br /><br />The kip allows for you that far more times (my ratio of strict to kipping is 10/25). It would take a long time to do 45 strict, and I wouldn't be able to maintain any intensity. <br /><br />Its the combination of movements that improves the fitness and all that, so standing around looking the bars isn't helping me. <br /><br />The kip also translates directly into the Oly lifts with the hip thrust. <br /><br />Also, kipping pull ups are still hard, its not uncommon to have to a 100 of the things in a WOD. It hurts.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    NTA
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    #88

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JK" data-cid="427509" data-time="1399578084">
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    <p>Can only assume that you made some sort of comment on pullups / kipping etc?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Aware....</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>He's a purist ;)</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Kipping would be far tougher aerobically. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Fran is off limits for me since this split disc in my back, but maybe one day.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Question for Kirwan: in that video the title page had 43/35kg - what is that about?</p>

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  • MilkM Offline
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    Milk
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    #89

    <p>In yesterday morning's class we did clusters of strict pull ups. I really need to work on mine. It's embarrassing. I think I'll look into getting one of those bars for the doorway.</p>

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    #90

    NTA, that will be men's and woman's weight for the workout. <br /><br />Milk, bands help you improve, nothing to be embarrassed about. Start doing pull ups in your warmup maybe?

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #91

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Milk" data-cid="427733" data-time="1399664316"><p>In yesterday morning's class we did clusters of strict pull ups. I really need to work on mine. It's embarrassing. I think I'll look into getting one of those bars for the doorway.</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    Only problem with those doorway ones is your legs won't be straight for a full hang and makes them feel slightly awkward....unless of course you have high doors in which case, as you were 😉

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  • MilkM Offline
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    Milk
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    #92

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Kirwan" data-cid="427743" data-time="1399673729"><p>Milk, bands help you improve, nothing to be embarrassed about. Start doing pull ups in your warmup maybe?</p></blockquote><br>We usually do class warmups, but I have been adding in extra work at the end that I need to target (core and push ups), so maybe I'll add pull ups into the mix.<br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="427752" data-time="1399679418"><p>Only problem with those doorway ones is your legs won't be straight for a full hang and makes them feel slightly awkward....unless of course you have high doors in which case, as you were ;)</p></blockquote><br>You're right. I don't think they'd be tall enough. Maybe for negatives they'd be ok.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    I don't have anywhere to do proper pull ups at moment, which is a nuisance, but the ones I can do I make sure they hurt....

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  • MilkM Offline
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    Milk
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    #94

    <p>

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    <p>Ahh, the woman who wrote this;</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://erinsimmonsfitness.me/2014/04/17/why-i-dont-do-crossfit/'>http://erinsimmonsfitness.me/2014/04/17/why-i-dont-do-crossfit/</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>and a fairly good response;</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://derzfitlife.wordpress.com/2014/05/27/response-to-erin-simmons-why-i-dont-crossfit/'>http://derzfitlife.wordpress.com/2014/05/27/response-to-erin-simmons-why-i-dont-crossfit/</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I get so bored with all the anti-crossfit stuff. If people don't like it, they shouldn't do it.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm in the best shape of my life following the program, and my two most serious injuries in the last few years have been from jogging and squash.</p>

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  • MilkM Offline
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    Milk
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    #96

    <p>Maybe she's annoyed because someone at CrossFit no-repped her box jumps and push presses.</p>

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #97

    <p>yeah I read both those, like it says, that Simmons chick has some valid points, but at the end of the day, if you don't like it, don't do it.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Same as those hard core cross-fitters who tell you you should be doing it, if you don't do it, don't tell those who do not to.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I don't go to cross-fit, but do cross-fit style workouts (get a great hard workout in a short time) I don't do it against the clock, just do exercises and ensure I do them with as good a technique I can.</p>

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  • MN5M Online
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    #98

    <p>Haven't read the majority of this thread but yeah, Crossfit seems to be a complete joke to bodybuilders and powerlifters for some reason. Some Crossfit type exercises I can do fairly easily, others are a fucken struggle but it's completely unfair for others to "diss" it so much in my opinion.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm a bit like TR in that I do what I feel works, some days smash tin, others do some bodyweight stuff, I'm all about keeping things mixed up and fresh. I've probably benched about half a dozen times this year but yet down to weighted dips and push up variations I really do feel stronger in the upper body than ever right at the moment.</p>

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