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Blues 2019

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    A good chance we'll be running a Nonu-SBW midfield next season. They have a combined age of 70 and both are probably only going to be around for one more season.

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      Oh oh, Um, mods, a little help?

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      @gt12 No.

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      • DiceD Dice

        A good chance we'll be running a Nonu-SBW midfield next season. They have a combined age of 70 and both are probably only going to be around for one more season.

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        @dice said in Blues 2019:

        A good chance we'll be running a Nonu-SBW midfield next season. They have a combined age of 70 and both are probably only going to be around for one more season.

        Ma'a basically needs a Super trophy to cap off his career ... season of glory for the Blues next year.

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        • DiceD Dice

          @gt12 :crying_face:

          Since you guys don't even use Levi Aumua, why don't you give him to us? He's not that good :grinning_face:

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          @dice

          No.

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            @gt12 :crying_face:

            Since you guys don't even use Levi Aumua, why don't you give him to us? He's not that good :grinning_face:

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            @dice Aumua would be available, as would Verney, unless they have been re-signed.

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              @dice Aumua would be available, as would Verney, unless they have been re-signed.

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              @bovidae said in Blues 2019:

              @dice Aumua would be available, as would Verney, unless they have been re-signed.

              If Aumua's available, I don't like our chances of landing him. I think the Crusaders will make a play for him as they'll want another power player to replace Tamanivalu, and Aumua fits the bill perfectly. He said he wants to be an All Black and there's no better place to be to make that happen than at the Crusaders.

              Leon McDonald is our only hope of swaying him our way.

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                Ben Afeaki is Samoa's new scrum coach. Don't think it interferes with his Blues commitments.

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                  Robbie Abel was interviewed yesterday and it doesn't sound like he has a Super deal. He talked about just waiting around and hoping to get a phone call when injuries hit.

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                  • DiceD Dice

                    Robbie Abel was interviewed yesterday and it doesn't sound like he has a Super deal. He talked about just waiting around and hoping to get a phone call when injuries hit.

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                    @dice problem is most super teams only have a few spots each year come end of NPC.

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @dice problem is most super teams only have a few spots each year come end of NPC.

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                      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                      problem is most super teams only have a few spots each year come end of NPC.

                      Maybe there needs to be a change in the contracting where franchises are forced to keep a set number of spots open for promoting players from the NPC?
                      The NZRU should be wanting to keep a link between NPC performance and new contracts. They can't all be 18 year olds

                      As for who the Blues might miss out on.. I'm less concerned about missing out on people like Whetton/Abel because that can be explained by the contracting situation.
                      I'm more concerned about missing guys like Renata or Manu. Both of them played well for the Blues Dev team. Renata has been steadily improving for two years now. Manu even played well in his limited opportunities for the full side

                      The Blues should not be missing talent that is right under their noses

                      Hopefully the rumours are wrong and they have signed a few of the guys mentioned

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                        The problem is the Blues continue to make average signings like giving Leni Apisai a 2 year deal.

                        The Blues could well keep spots open but time and again they rush to sign mediocre players. Why re-sign Tupou and Collins before the season was even over?

                        It's been happening for years. Like when they signed Hoani Matenga before the Mitre 10 Cup then had no spot to sign either Taleni Seu or Michael Fatialofa.

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                          @taniwharugby Unfortunately for him, overseas teams also have all their spots filled at this time of the year too.

                          He asked to get out of his Brumbies contract so he could come over here, so hopefully he gets picked up at some point soon.

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                            The problem is the Blues continue to make average signings like giving Leni Apisai a 2 year deal.

                            The Blues could well keep spots open but time and again they rush to sign mediocre players. Why re-sign Tupou and Collins before the season was even over?

                            It's been happening for years. Like when they signed Hoani Matenga before the Mitre 10 Cup then had no spot to sign either Taleni Seu or Michael Fatialofa.

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                            Hanks, Kirwan & Umaga have been disasters

                            How does Hanks still have a job? He was appointed early in 2014. Think how many errors have been made in 'talent identification' in that time

                            Standards are so low at this organisation

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                              Hanks, Kirwan & Umaga have been disasters

                              How does Hanks still have a job? He was appointed early in 2014. Think how many errors have been made in 'talent identification' in that time

                              Standards are so low at this organisation

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                              @duluth Completely agree. Add Michael Redman to your list.

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                                @kiwimurph

                                Hanks, Kirwan & Umaga have been disasters

                                How does Hanks still have a job? He was appointed early in 2014. Think how many errors have been made in 'talent identification' in that time

                                Standards are so low at this organisation

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                                @duluth and yet Umaga and Hanks supposedly attending games looking at players this season...

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  The problem is the Blues continue to make average signings like giving Leni Apisai a 2 year deal.

                                  The Blues could well keep spots open but time and again they rush to sign mediocre players. Why re-sign Tupou and Collins before the season was even over?

                                  It's been happening for years. Like when they signed Hoani Matenga before the Mitre 10 Cup then had no spot to sign either Taleni Seu or Michael Fatialofa.

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                                  @kiwimurph can players really afford to wait that long though? Pretty sure if a player hasn't got a spot before the end of the NPC they'll be looking overseas.

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                                    @kiwimurph can players really afford to wait that long though? Pretty sure if a player hasn't got a spot before the end of the NPC they'll be looking overseas.

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                                    @bones said in Blues 2019:

                                    @kiwimurph can players really afford to wait that long though? Pretty sure if a player hasn't got a spot before the end of the NPC they'll be looking overseas.

                                    I'm not saying Blues should wait until the end of the NPC - by mid-NPC you get a clear picture of who is and who isn't up to Super standard.

                                    The problem is the Blues are signing up players well before the Mitre 10 Cup begins. They don't give themselves a chance.

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                                      Scott Gregory has been offered a spot with the wider training squad at the Blues,be interesting to see if Rayasi hangs around if he misses a contract with the Blues.
                                      Hope he hangs around,simply because as we saw last year injuries do happen,in my opinion Caleb Clark was signed far too early last year as well,should have been offered a wider training spot,I see the same issue with Hoskins Sotutu,has’nt exactly rocked the world at Mitre 10 Cup level in my opinion..it would a real bugger to see Evan Olmstead miss because once again they signed a guy far too early.

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                                        Scott Gregory has been offered a spot with the wider training squad at the Blues,be interesting to see if Rayasi hangs around if he misses a contract with the Blues.
                                        Hope he hangs around,simply because as we saw last year injuries do happen,in my opinion Caleb Clark was signed far too early last year as well,should have been offered a wider training spot,I see the same issue with Hoskins Sotutu,has’nt exactly rocked the world at Mitre 10 Cup level in my opinion..it would a real bugger to see Evan Olmstead miss because once again they signed a guy far too early.

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                                        @steven-harris Sotutu is a better signing than Jimmy Tupou. That's who Olmstead should be there instead of.

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                                          In 2002 Graham Henry came back to Auckland and they won the NPC. I looked forward to 2003's Super Rugby season thinking that we'd murder it.

                                          This year I look to 2019 Super Rugby thinking "well, we might qualify 7th or 8th."

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