NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition
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@jegga said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
Is this the end of Krusty?
I won't be. They have no option at this stage but to keep him on. His assistants are hardly chasing him down and there are no decent candidates in the wings that the players are gunning for.
To sack him now would also be demoralising for the players IMO.They actually played OK physically in this game but let themselves down with skill and decisions at the wrong moments.
If I was a Convict fan my biggest concerns would be that Krusty seems unable to get them to a level where they can play instinctively and the individual basic skills continue to let them down. (Operation Mick is working well as a replacement for Operation Dingo) -
@gt12 I make that over 30,000 empty seats. You won't see that number of empty seats for the international games coming up in Europe combined.
@sparky said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
@gt12 I make that over 30,000 empty seats. You won't see that number of empty seats for the international games coming up in Europe combined.
How many of those test matches will be dead rubbers between two neutral teams played in a Tier 2 nation? Think about it.
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Not neutral teams - judge them on next week's game if that is your metric.
Is your concern that seats won't sell out of the world Cup? if so you're mad.
If this was a dress rehearsal for the World Cup knock outs, I'd give the Japanese hosts 6 out of 10. No doubt World Rugby will sort out the ticketing situation before next year. According to the NZ Herald a lot of tickets were given away for this game. It will be embarrassing if they have to repeat that stunt next year for RWC
To be honest, my main concern was the playing surface. Substandard for an international test.
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Not poking fingers, because the ABs hardly showered themselves in glory in 2015 in this department but gee I see no way the Aussie’s white-knuckle “bend but don’t break” defence doesn’t bleed cards during the KO rounds of the World Cup.
When tested their tackling technique and defensive alignment was always a touch off and they gave up that SBW vibe where a card would be unsurprising at any time.
As for SBW, done as a starter (if he ever was one). But he still has the ability to come off the bench and make an impact. Less is more with him.
Thought TJP was a massive improvement on Smith’s starting efforts this season.
Seen enough from D Mac. He is Colin Slade with a bit more instinct at test level. Squad filler.
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I hope the folks in Yokohama can sort out the digital ads, the terrible playing surface, the empty seats and the flat atmosphere ahead of next year's World Cup.
@sparky The commentators said that it was the largest crowd ever for a rugby game in Japan so its about how many seats are filled not how many are not.
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Was more like a contested training run then a test match.
Don't agree that SBW and Crotty were terrible, but agree that combo needs to go. They are not drawing in the defence and outside backs do not have enough space as they need.
After 18 months of injuries the bench now looks very good. The props coming on were beasts, add the third lock, in this case BBBR we have impact. Todd (who was soo physical) and any combo of backs I think it bodes well.
Our defence gave me the shits though! Loved the outside speed but was so disjointed, was a tactic obviously for the Aussies as looked very different than anytime this year. -
Fuck up Kafer you cocksmoker
Doing my usual troll through the thread post match and may I say this
@mariner4life said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
Fuck up Kafer you cocksmoker
Very much this
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That's an old fashioned try, 8 off the back of a strong scrum. Simple as fuck.
@mariner4life said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
That's an old fashioned try, 8 off the back of a strong scrum. Simple as fuck.
And through ... I was going to say through a weak tackle but I think Hanigan is on the scrum
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@tordah said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
SBW sucks ass, worst AB on the field and never deserved to be on it in the first place, has been shit recently
He isn't shit but he is a bit of a 'moment' player. The odd good turnover/off load and then not enough else. Can't do it for 80 minutes.
@hydro11 said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
@tordah said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
SBW sucks ass, worst AB on the field and never deserved to be on it in the first place, has been shit recently
He isn't shit but he is a bit of a 'moment' player. The odd good turnover/off load and then not enough else. Can't do it for 80 minutes.
Akira?
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Who's the chick with the baby behind Cheika?
And why doesn't he he have any friends in the coach's box?
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@akan004 said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
Gregan whinging about the BFA try now.
I'm not surprised. Aza did run a bit of interference there, which was unnecessary and did pose a risk of having the try ruled out. Don't like that sort of dumb stuff Aza does.
But I expect Phil can't actually bring himself to admit that they deserved to concede a try there. No no, it's all down to AB cheating.
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@no-quarter said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
@stargazer said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
@kev He isn't the best impact player anymore either.
He's been fucking superb off the bench all year. I get you want Mo'unga there but DMac has been great in black this year.
Except making the error to lose the game vs Boks in Wellington....
@kiwimurph said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
@no-quarter said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
@stargazer said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
@kev He isn't the best impact player anymore either.
He's been fucking superb off the bench all year. I get you want Mo'unga there but DMac has been great in black this year.
Except making the error to lose the game vs Boks in Wellington....
I'll stand up for him. Was not do much an error as good D by the Jaap.
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@jegga said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
Is this the end of Krusty?
I won't be. They have no option at this stage but to keep him on. His assistants are hardly chasing him down and there are no decent candidates in the wings that the players are gunning for.
To sack him now would also be demoralising for the players IMO.They actually played OK physically in this game but let themselves down with skill and decisions at the wrong moments.
If I was a Convict fan my biggest concerns would be that Krusty seems unable to get them to a level where they can play instinctively and the individual basic skills continue to let them down. (Operation Mick is working well as a replacement for Operation Dingo)@crucial said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
@jegga said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
Is this the end of Krusty?
I won't be. They have no option at this stage but to keep him on. His assistants are hardly chasing him down and there are no decent candidates in the wings that the players are gunning for.
To sack him now would also be demoralising for the players IMO.They actually played OK physically in this game but let themselves down with skill and decisions at the wrong moments.
If I was a Convict fan my biggest concerns would be that Krusty seems unable to get them to a level where they can play instinctively and the individual basic skills continue to let them down. (Operation Mick is working well as a replacement for Operation Dingo)I know they can’t get rid of him , I just like reading people reminding me they can’t .
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@akan004 said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
Gregan whinging about the BFA try now.
I'm not surprised. Aza did run a bit of interference there, which was unnecessary and did pose a risk of having the try ruled out. Don't like that sort of dumb stuff Aza does.
But I expect Phil can't actually bring himself to admit that they deserved to concede a try there. No no, it's all down to AB cheating.
@booboo said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
@akan004 said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
Gregan whinging about the BFA try now.
I'm not surprised. Aza did run a bit of interference there, which was unnecessary and did pose a risk of having the try ruled out. Don't like that sort of dumb stuff Aza does.
But I expect Phil can't actually bring himself to admit that they deserved to concede a try there. No no, it's all down to AB cheating.
Yeah, I thought A Smith was very lucky that the contact happened just at the time his slow little legs allowed B Smith to motor past him. I thought Aaron slightly straightened his line, if he angled infield then it's illegal, if he angled to a straight run (parallel to touchline) then it's legal. That's a heck of a gamble he took.
The obstruction running in modern rugby is starting to really get my goat. (without having seen a front on replay, I think Aaron have may crossed my red line with the angle in he took, I need a TMO review .... to decide)
Edit. I've looked at a replay (still only from side on camera), I would rule the try out. Judging by the mower lines. I think A Smith angled infield about 0.5 to 1m, if it had gone to the TMO the fact that Aaron had eyes only for the defender while running that lines puts him at great risk of bombing a certain 5 pointer. Its not at DHP v Savea levels of sheer stupidity but it's just enough.
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@booboo said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
@akan004 said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
Gregan whinging about the BFA try now.
I'm not surprised. Aza did run a bit of interference there, which was unnecessary and did pose a risk of having the try ruled out. Don't like that sort of dumb stuff Aza does.
But I expect Phil can't actually bring himself to admit that they deserved to concede a try there. No no, it's all down to AB cheating.
Yeah, I thought A Smith was very lucky that the contact happened just at the time his slow little legs allowed B Smith to motor past him. I thought Aaron slightly straightened his line, if he angled infield then it's illegal, if he angled to a straight run (parallel to touchline) then it's legal. That's a heck of a gamble he took.
The obstruction running in modern rugby is starting to really get my goat. (without having seen a front on replay, I think Aaron have may crossed my red line with the angle in he took, I need a TMO review .... to decide)
Edit. I've looked at a replay (still only from side on camera), I would rule the try out. Judging by the mower lines. I think A Smith angled infield about 0.5 to 1m, if it had gone to the TMO the fact that Aaron had eyes only for the defender while running that lines puts him at great risk of bombing a certain 5 pointer. Its not at DHP v Savea levels of sheer stupidity but it's just enough.
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@rapido You hear Poite speaking to the TMO (Jonker) after the try who confirms the try should stand.
I thought Smith's actions were dodgy myself.
@bovidae said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
I thought Smith's actions were dodgy myself.
Yep - it certainly looked marginal. You're entitled to run a supporting line, but being in front at the start makes it look pretty ugly.
That said, every side does it - watch players get into the defensive line, and then speed up or slow down to pull defensive players out of position as they drift and block sightlines. It's legal, but only just.
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Honestly living in Australia you really get fed up with the ex-private school boys (who are all Liberal Party voters) who make excuses for their shithouse team blaming the ABs’ dominance on some clandestine conspiracy by referees. Kearns is the worst of them.
@mrdenmore said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
Honestly living in Australia you really get fed up with the ex-private school boys (who are all Liberal Party voters) who make excuses for their shithouse team blaming the ABs’ dominance on some clandestine conspiracy by referees. Kearns is the worst of them.
Not really true as a lot of them are swing voters because of their wives. The wife who drive around in the Range Rover but are climate change warriors who vote Greens or Malcolm Turnbull....
Anyone complaining about Kearns or any other of these Aussie commentators need an uppercut. There is a mute button.
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@bovidae said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
I thought Smith's actions were dodgy myself.
Yep - it certainly looked marginal. You're entitled to run a supporting line, but being in front at the start makes it look pretty ugly.
That said, every side does it - watch players get into the defensive line, and then speed up or slow down to pull defensive players out of position as they drift and block sightlines. It's legal, but only just.
@nzzp said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
@bovidae said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
I thought Smith's actions were dodgy myself.
Yep - it certainly looked marginal. You're entitled to run a supporting line, but being in front at the start makes it look pretty ugly.
That said, every side does it - watch players get into the defensive line, and then speed up or slow down to pull defensive players out of position as they drift and block sightlines. It's legal, but only just.
Nothing in that at all. Smith running a good support line. Aussie defenders behind the play or coming from the side. They needed to get around the ABs who were going forward.
I thought the dodgiest one was when DMac did one of his trademark cross field runs and ran in behind another AB as a Wallaby was coming forward. Can’t remember which one of those trademark runs it was - there were at least 3 - but that should’ve been a penalty against the ABs.
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@booboo said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
@akan004 said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
Gregan whinging about the BFA try now.
I'm not surprised. Aza did run a bit of interference there, which was unnecessary and did pose a risk of having the try ruled out. Don't like that sort of dumb stuff Aza does.
But I expect Phil can't actually bring himself to admit that they deserved to concede a try there. No no, it's all down to AB cheating.
Yeah, I thought A Smith was very lucky that the contact happened just at the time his slow little legs allowed B Smith to motor past him. I thought Aaron slightly straightened his line, if he angled infield then it's illegal, if he angled to a straight run (parallel to touchline) then it's legal. That's a heck of a gamble he took.
The obstruction running in modern rugby is starting to really get my goat. (without having seen a front on replay, I think Aaron have may crossed my red line with the angle in he took, I need a TMO review .... to decide)
Edit. I've looked at a replay (still only from side on camera), I would rule the try out. Judging by the mower lines. I think A Smith angled infield about 0.5 to 1m, if it had gone to the TMO the fact that Aaron had eyes only for the defender while running that lines puts him at great risk of bombing a certain 5 pointer. Its not at DHP v Savea levels of sheer stupidity but it's just enough.
@rapido said in NZ vs. Aust - Japanese yawn edition:
Yeah, I thought A Smith was very lucky that the contact happened just at the time his slow little legs allowed B Smith to motor past him. I thought Aaron slightly straightened his line, if he angled infield then it's illegal, if he angled to a straight run (parallel to touchline) then it's legal.
I'm not sure that actually has a case under Rugby Law - particularly as BFA was running an angle toward the corner. By straightening, A Smith has moved on a line away from support, in effect.
Compare it to the Speight no-try from 2016 where DHP comes in from behind to take out Savea. (https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/wallabies-left-seething-as-disallowed-try-mars-all-blacks-world-record-win-20161022-gs8dzj.html)
In both instances, DHP and A Smith look at the guy they're preparing to take out, then execute. After that you need to decide if the defender was ever in a position to make the tackle, and I don't think either incident can support this.
Anyway, its in the book, and its not a conspiracy or anything like that. Rugby doesn't have "consistency" in it's box of tricks, simply put.
