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2019 under 20's

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @chris There are a few players from this years NZSS team too.

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    @bovidae Some Talent in the NZSS lot as well maybe a tough squad to pick

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      @chris There are a few players from this years NZSS team too.

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      @bovidae No Niko Jones.

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      • sparkyS sparky

        @bovidae No Niko Jones.

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        @sparky Maybe too early for him? It also doesn't mention his non selection so they probably don't see him in the picture yet.

        I'm thinking Flanders will captain the side.

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @sparky Maybe too early for him? It also doesn't mention his non selection so they probably don't see him in the picture yet.

          I'm thinking Flanders will captain the side.

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          @canes4life said in 2019 under 20's:

          I'm thinking Flanders will captain the side.

          There are 2 NZSS captains amongst the 50 players, and others who would have captained their provincial U19 team.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @canes4life said in 2019 under 20's:

            I'm thinking Flanders will captain the side.

            There are 2 NZSS captains amongst the 50 players, and others who would have captained their provincial U19 team.

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            @bovidae He stands out as the most logical choice.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @sparky Maybe too early for him? It also doesn't mention his non selection so they probably don't see him in the picture yet.

              I'm thinking Flanders will captain the side.

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              @canes4life I suspect Baby Ice will be off to uni next year, playing for a Development team of a Super franchise and a bit NPC.

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                I've re-ordered the list to show the player positions:

                PROPS
                Finlay Brewis (Canterbury) - TH?
                Robert Cobb (Auckland) - LH
                George Dyer (Waikato) - LH
                Fletcher Newell (Canterbury) - TH
                Oliver Norris (Waikato) - LH
                Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe (Hawkes Bay) - TH
                Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Wellington) - TH
                Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury) - LH

                HOOKERS
                Tane Te Aho (Wellington)
                Sam Cooper (Waikato)
                Kianu Kereru-Symes (Hawkes Bay)
                Shilo Klein (Canterbury)

                LOCKS
                Samipeni Finau (Waikato)
                Naitoa Ah Kuoi (Wellington)
                Iosefa Maloney-Fiaola (Bay of Plenty)
                Taine Plumtree (Wellington)
                Tupou Vaa'i (Taranaki)

                LOOSIES
                Iona Apineru (Wellington) - blindside
                Kaylum Boshier (Taranaki) - no. 8
                Samuel Dickson (Otago) - openside
                Lesinali Faleafa (Auckland) - no. 8
                Devan Flanders (Hawkes Bay) - blindside and no. 8
                Cullen Grace (Canterbury) - blindside
                Kohan Herbert (Bay of Plenty) - openside
                Shamus Hurley-Langton (Wellington) - no. 8?
                Michael Loft (Taranaki)
                Simon Parker (Waikato) - blindside and no. 8
                James Thompson (Waikato) - blindside

                HALFBACKS
                Leroy Carter (Bay of Plenty)
                Luke Donaldson (Canterbury)
                Taufa Funaki (Auckland)
                Brad McNaughten (North Harbour)

                FIRST FIVE-EIGHTHS
                Fergus Burke (Canterbury)
                Chay Fihaki (Auckland) - also 12
                Cole Forbes (Bay of Plenty)
                Callum Harkin (Wellington)
                Jack Heighton (North Harbour)
                Lincoln McClutchie (Hawkes Bay)
                Rivez Reihana (Auckland)

                MIDFIELDERS
                Lalomilo Lalomilo (Bay of Plenty) - 12
                Dallas McLeod (Canterbury) - 12
                Isaiah Punivai (Canterbury) - 13
                Dennon Robinson-Bartlett (Bay of Plenty)
                Danny Toala (Hawkes Bay) - 12, also fullback
                Quinn Tupaea (Waikato)

                OUTSIDE BACKS
                Connor Garden-Bachop (Canterbury)
                Samuel Gilbert (Canterbury) - fullback (also 1st 5/8?)
                Jack Gray (Auckland) - fullback?
                Reuben Va'a (Wellington)

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                  Heighton played 9 for Blues dev, but plays 10 for his club (East Coast Bays).

                  Rob Cobb plays both sides, but is maybe more of a tighthead?

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    Is Fakatava too old for this team? Just checked and he was still 18 in March this year so he should be eligible.

                    Oh wait, I just checked who the coach is.

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                    @nepia said in 2019 under 20's:

                    Is Fakatava too old for this team? Just checked and he was still 18 in March this year so he should be eligible.

                    Oh wait, I just checked who the coach is.

                    I had a big WTF moment when I saw his naming was missing from the list, especially considering the halfbacks that have been named. Of those four, only Funaki stands out. He turns 19 in December, so Fakatava will still be eligible next year.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      Heighton played 9 for Blues dev, but plays 10 for his club (East Coast Bays).

                      Rob Cobb plays both sides, but is maybe more of a tighthead?

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                      @tim It's possible that some players play in more than one position. I found most positions in U19 line-ups, some in club or school line-ups.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @nepia said in 2019 under 20's:

                        Is Fakatava too old for this team? Just checked and he was still 18 in March this year so he should be eligible.

                        Oh wait, I just checked who the coach is.

                        I had a big WTF moment when I saw his naming was missing from the list, especially considering the halfbacks that have been named. Of those four, only Funaki stands out. He turns 19 in December, so Fakatava will still be eligible next year.

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                        @stargazer Maybe there is a reason behind his non-selection as he surely would be first choice. I hope this means the Canes have snapped him up, but they also have Flanders on their books and he was selected so who knows.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @stargazer Maybe there is a reason behind his non-selection as he surely would be first choice. I hope this means the Canes have snapped him up, but they also have Flanders on their books and he was selected so who knows.

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                          @canes4life Yeah, there may be good reasons. I just find it so hard to believe he hasn't been named. I was hoping they'd just forgotten to put him on the list. Wouldn't be the first time. :smirking_face:

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            @nepia said in 2019 under 20's:

                            Is Fakatava too old for this team? Just checked and he was still 18 in March this year so he should be eligible.

                            Oh wait, I just checked who the coach is.

                            I had a big WTF moment when I saw his naming was missing from the list, especially considering the halfbacks that have been named. Of those four, only Funaki stands out. He turns 19 in December, so Fakatava will still be eligible next year.

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                            @stargazer Donaldson only turned 18 in July so he has another year. I don’t think he’ll make this team but he’s a great talent

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                              @stargazer Donaldson only turned 18 in July so he has another year. I don’t think he’ll make this team but he’s a great talent

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                              @chchfanatic That's very well possible, but without further explanation, I see no reason why any of those halfbacks would have been picked ahead of Fakatava, who played very well during his first year of Mitre 10 Cup as Brad Weber's back-up.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                Naholo?

                                Edit: perhaps not elligible.

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                                @bovidae said in 2019 under 20's:

                                Naholo?

                                Edit: perhaps not elligible.

                                Don't know about his eligibility, but Kini has been injured for most of the Mitre 10 Cup season, so maybe not back to fitness yet.

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                                  Not sure on squad, you need a cple of players who are starting super rugby or dominating ITM cup to win championship,
                                  The front Row will be better with those returning players plus HB hooker. We are very poor at lock I think looking at those players. Flanders will be good next year but is not a game breaker like Iaone was in 2015 ( although I believe he is next Kieren Read long term)
                                  Tupaea, Faainganuku, proctor, Mclutcjir Nanai shld be very strong next year. Also surprised with Fakatava, i know Naholo is not eligible like Reece wasn't before him.

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                                    Not sure on squad, you need a cple of players who are starting super rugby or dominating ITM cup to win championship,
                                    The front Row will be better with those returning players plus HB hooker. We are very poor at lock I think looking at those players. Flanders will be good next year but is not a game breaker like Iaone was in 2015 ( although I believe he is next Kieren Read long term)
                                    Tupaea, Faainganuku, proctor, Mclutcjir Nanai shld be very strong next year. Also surprised with Fakatava, i know Naholo is not eligible like Reece wasn't before him.

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                                    @98blueandgold Can you explain what the rule is that makes Naholo ineligible? Residency rule? When does that start to run? He has at least 2 years of 1st XV and one year of club rugby/Mitre 10 Cup under his belt, so he'll be in NZ for almost 3 years (at least).

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                                      Not sure on squad, you need a cple of players who are starting super rugby or dominating ITM cup to win championship,
                                      The front Row will be better with those returning players plus HB hooker. We are very poor at lock I think looking at those players. Flanders will be good next year but is not a game breaker like Iaone was in 2015 ( although I believe he is next Kieren Read long term)
                                      Tupaea, Faainganuku, proctor, Mclutcjir Nanai shld be very strong next year. Also surprised with Fakatava, i know Naholo is not eligible like Reece wasn't before him.

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                                      @98blueandgold

                                      Jordan Joseph will be eligible for France again. He is only 18 so they must be favourites for the championship.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @98blueandgold Can you explain what the rule is that makes Naholo ineligible? Residency rule? When does that start to run? He has at least 2 years of 1st XV and one year of club rugby/Mitre 10 Cup under his belt, so he'll be in NZ for almost 3 years (at least).

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                                        @stargazer unlike nz schools u20 is an international comp so you must abide by irb rules I believe which means resident or 5 years of living (maybe wrong). NZ schools is not a irb sanctioned event so rules can be decided by union. It has changed over time, previously you to be a resident which is why Waisake Cldnt play but when went from 21s/19s to 20s all rules changed. Now schools anyone can play ie Sagner from Germany this year for schools but Sevu Reece who played schools Cld not play sevens or 20s for NZ. Make sense?

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          @98blueandgold

                                          Jordan Joseph will be eligible for France again. He is only 18 so they must be favourites for the championship.

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                                          @sparky he was very good but they lost a lot of the others in squad.

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