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Blues 2019

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  • sparkyS sparky

    Poor at Hooker, Half Back and First Five. A SBW/Nonu midfield would have great in 2015 but will be too slow in 2019.

    On the plus side, the two main props and the Ioane brothers are outstanding

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    @sparky Think 1st five won't be an issue. Halfback, centre, and fullback are all concerns in the backs.

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    • sparkyS sparky

      Poor at Hooker, Half Back and First Five. A SBW/Nonu midfield would have great in 2015 but will be too slow in 2019.

      On the plus side, the two main props and the Ioane brothers are outstanding

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      @sparky Hooker and Halfback I agree but we're fine at 10 for once.

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      • sparkyS sparky

        Poor at Hooker, Half Back and First Five. A SBW/Nonu midfield would have great in 2015 but will be too slow in 2019.

        On the plus side, the two main props and the Ioane brothers are outstanding

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        @sparky what's your issue with first five?

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          Lack of a long-kicking game.

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            Out of the Box podcast looks at the squads:

            https://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-air/daniel-mchardy-afternoons/out-of-the-box/out-of-the-box-auckland-are-champs-and-all-blacks-in-japan/

            They're mildly optimistic about the Blues, but only talk about their forward pack.

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              Bloody hell so the lead weights Parsons, Pulu and Collins are all still firmly in place as the leaders and communicators of the Blues. And they expect different results this time? I would be pissed if i was a Blues fan.

              Pretty fucked they missed out/didn't sign Rayasi, Abel, Manu or the Canadian but are stuck with the above guys plus Tupou and Apisai etc. only themselves to blame.

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              • pukunuiP pukunui

                Bloody hell so the lead weights Parsons, Pulu and Collins are all still firmly in place as the leaders and communicators of the Blues. And they expect different results this time? I would be pissed if i was a Blues fan.

                Pretty fucked they missed out/didn't sign Rayasi, Abel, Manu or the Canadian but are stuck with the above guys plus Tupou and Apisai etc. only themselves to blame.

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                @pukunui This is how we will lose to the Highlanders and Hurricanes next year:

                Forwards get 60% possession and territory, backs let in a couple of soft tries through the midfield, we have a lineout in the opposition 22 with time almost up, throw in is not straight or is knocked on. Five to seven point loss.

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                  From the official media guide ... guess who ...

                  COACHES SAY: Otago utility who played for NZ Schools and NZ U20s as well as more than 30 caps for his province. Moved north to the Blues for 2017 and impressed with his professional approach, allround skills and excellent communication. He sealed the fullback spot and has become a key senior leader as well as outstanding contributor. Won captaincy for Otago in 2018 and led them to the Ranfurly Shield victory.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    @pukunui This is how we will lose to the Highlanders and Hurricanes next year:

                    Forwards get 60% possession and territory, backs let in a couple of soft tries through the midfield, we have a lineout in the opposition 22 with time almost up, throw in is not straight or is knocked on. Five to seven point loss.

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                    @tim said in Blues 2019:

                    @pukunui This is how we will lose to the Highlanders and Hurricanes next year:

                    Forwards get 60% possession and territory, backs let in a couple of soft tries through the midfield, we have a lineout in the opposition 22 with time almost up, throw in is not straight or is knocked on. Five to seven point loss.

                    SBW to go down with a calf strain, out for 6-8 weeks. Pulu to take an age to clear ever ruck as he looks around like a meerkat for a gap to run through. Collins to be slow as fuck but communicate really really well "Run Rieko Run!" "Hey guys, pass it to Akira, he is really good".
                    Parsons to give the same post game interview in the same old headgear. Tana to scratch his head in his interview and say "um well we are really getting there this time". TSF to spend a couple of days speculating why Akira is still being ignored by the ABs selectors.
                    Good, i hate change anyway.

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                      IIRC, the Blues haven't named a captain yet?

                      This is Pulu's official bio:

                      COACHES SAY: The Auckland-born halfback took on the added role as captain in 2018, a responsibility he handled with great heart and desire. Injury sidelined him for the middle six games of the season which proved a disruption to his own game and we never saw the hard-running best from Pulu on the field. He returns for a final time from his duties in Japan for the 2019 season.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @pukunui This is how we will lose to the Highlanders and Hurricanes next year:

                        Forwards get 60% possession and territory, backs let in a couple of soft tries through the midfield, we have a lineout in the opposition 22 with time almost up, throw in is not straight or is knocked on. Five to seven point loss.

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                        @tim said in Blues 2019:

                        @pukunui This is how we will lose to the Highlanders and Hurricanes next year:

                        Forwards get 60% possession and territory, backs let in a couple of soft tries through the midfield, we have a lineout in the opposition 22 with time almost up, throw in is not straight or is knocked on. Five to seven point loss.

                        wait, I'm pretty sure I've seen that movie

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                        • TimT Tim

                          From the official media guide ... guess who ...

                          COACHES SAY: Otago utility who played for NZ Schools and NZ U20s as well as more than 30 caps for his province. Moved north to the Blues for 2017 and impressed with his professional approach, allround skills and excellent communication. He sealed the fullback spot and has become a key senior leader as well as outstanding contributor. Won captaincy for Otago in 2018 and led them to the Ranfurly Shield victory.

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                          @tim said in Blues 2019:

                          From the official media guide ... guess who ...

                          COACHES SAY: Otago utility who played for NZ Schools and NZ U20s as well as more than 30 caps for his province. Moved north to the Blues for 2017 and impressed with his professional approach, allround skills and excellent communication. He sealed the fullback spot and has become a key senior leader as well as outstanding contributor. Won captaincy for Otago in 2018 and led them to the Ranfurly Shield victory.

                          Ben Smith Jr.?

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                            @tim said in Blues 2019:

                            From the official media guide ... guess who ...

                            COACHES SAY: Otago utility who played for NZ Schools and NZ U20s as well as more than 30 caps for his province. Moved north to the Blues for 2017 and impressed with his professional approach, allround skills and excellent communication. He sealed the fullback spot and has become a key senior leader as well as outstanding contributor. Won captaincy for Otago in 2018 and led them to the Ranfurly Shield victory.

                            Ben Smith Jr.?

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                            @chris-b We wish.

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                              @chris-b We wish.

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                              @tim Yeah - I have to say from watching him a bit in Mitre10 Cup - "Mike is not the answer."

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                                Will Nanai gain the 5 kg or so he needs to in the off-season? Will he take a contract overseas and play for Samoa in the WC?

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                                  Tweet from Radio Sport's guy who covers the Blues and Auckland:

                                  https://twitter.com/elliottnz/status/1057407364058542087

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                                    The Blues selections highlight areas for improvement in the NZ Franchise system.
                                    When you are the bottom team, recruitment is obviously a more difficult task and I imagine that, at times, longer contracts have to be offered to secure players. If those selections don't pan out (and every franchise gets those) you are stuck with the player and squad fixes are made more difficult.

                                    As for Olmstead, does anyone know the situation regarding approval (or not) by NZRU? They have been heavily involved in trying to rejuvenate the code in Auckland and I imagine they would prefer a local taking the spot over an import. Maybe the criticisms in that area are misdirected until we find out what actually happened in that regard.

                                    I also don't get the Nonu signing on the surface however maybe he is more a backup and training selection. I'll cop flack for this but remember that Umaga in his late playing days played a role at CM where he worked as mentor for a couple of midfield players that grew very quickly from his example and help. One is now an international for the number two team in the world, the other recently cemented a long term contract up north. Maybe there is a hope for a similar acceleration for Faiane?

                                    I doubt SBW will play that much (he never does anyway) but SBW and Nonu offer solid foundations in the centres that can be used either starting, finishing or as injury cover.

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                                      Not much discussion of the squads on The Short Ball podcast, other than some very mild optimism about the Blues ("Maybe it's a good thing that promotion to the squad has been internal?"), and noting that Tumua Manu was a loss.

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                                        What are the chances Alama coaches the development team?

                                        Also, I wonder if Olmstead and Abel will stick around for an injury call-up. Abel said that he's willing to wait for an injury call-up, so we might have to hope we're the first team to pick up a hooker injury.

                                        A couple of weeks ago, Olmstead said he was talking to a few teams, but no one signed him in the end. I wonder if the talks were more about injury cover than anything else.

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                                          What are the chances Alama coaches the development team?

                                          Also, I wonder if Olmstead and Abel will stick around for an injury call-up. Abel said that he's willing to wait for an injury call-up, so we might have to hope we're the first team to pick up a hooker injury.

                                          A couple of weeks ago, Olmstead said he was talking to a few teams, but no one signed him in the end. I wonder if the talks were more about injury cover than anything else.

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                                          @dice said in Blues 2019:

                                          What are the chances Alama coaches the development team?

                                          Last season the Harbour coaches took the U20 and Dev team, IIRC.

                                          Sounds like Ieremia has a lot planned for Auckland in early 2019 though, including a tour with an Auckland Dev team in February.

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