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England vs All Blacks

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @drivingmaul Similar story to us at Loftus. 🙂

    I think we'll win, but I'll be surprised if it's by more than 10 unless cards play a role.

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    @chris-b I think it will be by at least a couple of scores, England (and I'm English) didn't even get a try

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      @drivingmaul Great to see you on TSF, Paul. Welcome.

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      @akan004 Thank you 🙂

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      • DrivingMaulD DrivingMaul

        @chris-b I think it will be by at least a couple of scores, England (and I'm English) didn't even get a try

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        @drivingmaul said in England Vs All Blacks:

        @chris-b I think it will be by at least a couple of scores, England (and I'm English) didn't even get a try

        England will struggle to win if they don't score at least a couple of tries. Anything is possible though, happened in Wellington all those years ago before the 2003 RWC when Johhny knocked over 5/5 penalties in a swirling wind (man that guy was a freak).

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        • DrivingMaulD DrivingMaul

          @chris-b I think it will be by at least a couple of scores, England (and I'm English) didn't even get a try

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          @drivingmaul I bet you guys do against us, though.

          Main difference in comparing those results is that Faf and Willie le Roux were outstanding for the Saffas against us, but watching from the sidelines against you guys.

          Will be interesting. Looking forward to this game.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @drivingmaul I bet you guys do against us, though.

            Main difference in comparing those results is that Faf and Willie le Roux were outstanding for the Saffas against us, but watching from the sidelines against you guys.

            Will be interesting. Looking forward to this game.

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            @chris-b said in England Vs All Blacks:

            Will be interesting. Looking forward to this game.

            Interesting, yes, but I am dreading it.

            Jerome "deal" Garces, with Bonkers Jonkers as TMO, probably means that the wife will leave the room within the first couple of minutes (when I start my tirade about morons ruining my lifelong passion for rugby, etc). Shouting at a tele on your own isn't as much fun and the cat and puppy leave as soon as they hear the Haka these days. I expect it to be close and tense.

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @mikethesnow everyone's an AB supporter when it's England test week.

              Welcome to the bandwagon. Plenty of room for you all 🙂

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              @nzzp There's only an up tick! I can't down tick this comment 🙂

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              • DrivingMaulD DrivingMaul

                @nzzp There's only an up tick! I can't down tick this comment 🙂

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                @drivingmaul said in England Vs All Blacks:

                @nzzp There's only an up tick! I can't down tick this comment 🙂

                Something for the mods to work on I suppose...

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                • D Disgusted of TW

                  @mariner4life said in England Vs All Blacks:

                  @sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:

                  The citing officiers have elected not to look into the Owen Farrell tackle so he is free to paly against the ABs:

                  https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/nov/04/owen-farrell-citing-england-rugby-union-autumn-international-south-africa

                  I think i speak for the whole rugby world when i say i am so sick of England getting a free ride from both the officials and citing officers...

                  (i agree with this citing decision)

                  Ah yes, the Illuminati-like influence of the RFU. Citing Commissioner for this one was Keith Brown. Bloody one-eyed pom-favouring, er... kiwi.

                  Right decision re citing, I thought, didn't meet the test for a red card. Wrong decision by ref, should have been a penalty for no attempt to wrap arms, with a possible yellow (although card was purely academic at that stage).

                  Personally I enjoyed the 2nd half, but the first half set the bar pretty low. Looking forward to next week, I just have a sneaky feeling that England will win. (Caveat, I predicted a Hillary presidency and a Remain vote for Brexit).

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                  @disgusted-of-tw said in England Vs All Blacks:

                  @mariner4life said in England Vs All Blacks:

                  @sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:

                  The citing officiers have elected not to look into the Owen Farrell tackle so he is free to paly against the ABs:

                  https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/nov/04/owen-farrell-citing-england-rugby-union-autumn-international-south-africa

                  I think i speak for the whole rugby world when i say i am so sick of England getting a free ride from both the officials and citing officers...

                  (i agree with this citing decision)

                  Ah yes, the Illuminati-like influence of the RFU. Citing Commissioner for this one was Keith Brown. Bloody one-eyed pom-favouring, er... kiwi.

                  Right decision re citing, I thought, didn't meet the test for a red card. Wrong decision by ref, should have been a penalty for no attempt to wrap arms, with a possible yellow (although card was purely academic at that stage).

                  Personally I enjoyed the 2nd half, but the first half set the bar pretty low. Looking forward to next week, I just have a sneaky feeling that England will win. (Caveat, I predicted a Hillary presidency and a Remain vote for Brexit).

                  Re first para: just in case you missed it last week the world rugby media (well the Aussies and a couple of NH scribes) went ape about getting free ride from officials. @mariner4life appears to be pointing out potential inconsistency.

                  Unless I just missed your irony ... am a Kiwi after all.

                  Upvote for the second and third para. 🙂

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                    @rocky-rockbottom said in England Vs All Blacks:

                    @nzzp said in England Vs All Blacks:

                    @drivingmaul said in England Vs All Blacks:

                    @nzzp There's only an up tick! I can't down tick this comment 🙂

                    Something for the mods to work on I suppose...

                    Would never happen.

                    Once one of MN5's anti-asian posts hits minus-triple digits the software would have some sort of crippling Y2K meltdown...

                    Hey, I don't play favourites. I hate every ethnic minority equally.

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                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                      @drivingmaul said in England Vs All Blacks:

                      @chris-b I think it will be by at least a couple of scores, England (and I'm English) didn't even get a try

                      England will struggle to win if they don't score at least a couple of tries. Anything is possible though, happened in Wellington all those years ago before the 2003 RWC when Johhny knocked over 5/5 penalties in a swirling wind (man that guy was a freak).

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                      @no-quarter said in England Vs All Blacks:

                      @drivingmaul said in England Vs All Blacks:

                      @chris-b I think it will be by at least a couple of scores, England (and I'm English) didn't even get a try

                      England will struggle to win if they don't score at least a couple of tries. Anything is possible though, happened in Wellington all those years ago before the 2003 RWC when Johhny knocked over 5/5 penalties in a swirling wind (man that guy was a freak).

                      Great player but can you imagine how boring a guy who practiced his goal kicking on Xmas day would be on the piss?

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                        https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/internationals/england-v-new-zealand/winner

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                          ^ I honestly have no idea what all that stuff means!

                          Anyway, some interesting analysis here:

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-where-the-all-blacks-will-target-england-part-i

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @mikethesnow said in England Vs All Blacks:

                            Fuck that. Wallop them.

                            You sound like my Welsh mate Emyr.

                            Quite convinced he regards the All Blacks as some sort of surrogate Welsh Rugby Team..

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                            @victor-meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

                            @mikethesnow said in England Vs All Blacks:

                            Fuck that. Wallop them.

                            You sound like my Welsh mate Emyr.

                            Quite convinced he regards the All Blacks Anyone playing England as some sort of surrogate Welsh Rugby Team..

                            FIFY

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                            • CatograndeC Catogrande

                              @victor-meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

                              @mikethesnow said in England Vs All Blacks:

                              Fuck that. Wallop them.

                              You sound like my Welsh mate Emyr.

                              Quite convinced he regards the All Blacks Anyone playing England as some sort of surrogate Welsh Rugby Team..

                              FIFY

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                              @catogrande said in England Vs All Blacks:

                              @victor-meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

                              @mikethesnow said in England Vs All Blacks:

                              Fuck that. Wallop them.

                              You sound like my Welsh mate Emyr.

                              Quite convinced he regards the All Blacks Anyone playing England as some sort of surrogate Welsh Rugby Team..

                              FIFY

                              Nail. Head.

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                @catogrande said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                @victor-meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                @mikethesnow said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                Fuck that. Wallop them.

                                You sound like my Welsh mate Emyr.

                                Quite convinced he regards the All Blacks Anyone playing England as some sort of surrogate Welsh Rugby Team..

                                FIFY

                                Nail. Head.

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                                @mikethesnow This is not something you should revel in young man.

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                                • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                  @mikethesnow This is not something you should revel in young man.

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                                  @catogrande said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                  @mikethesnow This is not something you should revel in young man.

                                  They bring it on themselves.

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @rocky-rockbottom said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                    @nzzp said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                    @drivingmaul said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                    @nzzp There's only an up tick! I can't down tick this comment 🙂

                                    Something for the mods to work on I suppose...

                                    Would never happen.

                                    Once one of MN5's anti-asian posts hits minus-triple digits the software would have some sort of crippling Y2K meltdown...

                                    Hey, I don't play favourites. I hate every ethnic minority equally.

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                                    @mn5 said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                    @rocky-rockbottom said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                    @nzzp said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                    @drivingmaul said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                    @nzzp There's only an up tick! I can't down tick this comment 🙂

                                    Something for the mods to work on I suppose...

                                    Would never happen.

                                    Once one of MN5's anti-asian posts hits minus-triple digits the software would have some sort of crippling Y2K meltdown...

                                    Hey, I don't play favourites. I hate every ethnic minority equally.

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                      The citing officiers have elected not to look into the Owen Farrell tackle so he is free to paly against the ABs:

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/nov/04/owen-farrell-citing-england-rugby-union-autumn-international-south-africa

                                      I think i speak for the whole rugby world when i say i am so sick of England getting a free ride from both the officials and citing officers...

                                      (i agree with this citing decision)

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                                      @mariner4life The real question for the ABs is which weakness in this England team they want to target.

                                      The boks pulverized their scrum, maul, midfield and highball defence. Also put their lineout under pressure. And yet still managed to lose by playing very poorly. They also showed basically fuck all on-field tactical appreciation. I still can't understand how no one said, after the 2nd Marx overthrow in the pommie 22, hey boys, next time lets take the points or better yet, lets have a scrum.

                                      Or why they persisted with the scrummie kicking from the base when they were making meters at will down the inside channel.

                                      ABs are going to cane this English team.

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                                        The English midfield looked particularly porous.

                                        I'd start there.

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          The English midfield looked particularly porous.

                                          I'd start there.

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                                          @mikethesnow said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                          The English midfield looked particularly porous.

                                          I'd start there.

                                          The most obvious issue they had will be worked on endlessly during the week. Even Moonhead would have seen the problems they had there.
                                          Either the personnel will change or the patterns will be drilled.
                                          Not saying it's not worth picking up on natural flaws such as weak shoulders or ball watching tendencies, just don't expect that what you saw on Saturday past will be the same on Saturday coming.

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