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England v South Africa

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    Nice to see that humour is still a go-to coping mecahnism:

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      https://twitter.com/SARugbymag/status/1059678286870126592

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        Fuck that's funny, we'll played Rassie, well played

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          Fuck that's funny, we'll played Rassie, well played

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          @machpants bloody hell Rassie looks small in that clip. That's a centre doing the tackling right?

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            @machpants bloody hell Rassie looks small in that clip. That's a centre doing the tackling right?

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            @bones they can't all be Andre Venters, some of them are human sized too

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              @bones they can't all be Andre Venters, some of them are human sized too

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              @mn5 said in England v South Africa:

              @bones they can't all be Andre Venters, some of them are human sized too

              I think Venter is a Kaino equivalent and Rassie is a Messam equivalent.

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                @mn5 said in England v South Africa:

                @bones they can't all be Andre Venters, some of them are human sized too

                I think Venter is a Kaino equivalent and Rassie is a Messam equivalent.

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                @nepia Messam is a big unit in the flesh. Certainly no Daniel Braid or Sam Harding.

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                  @nepia Messam is a big unit in the flesh. Certainly no Daniel Braid or Sam Harding.

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                  @mn5 said in England v South Africa:

                  @nepia Messam is a big unit in the flesh. Certainly no Daniel Braid or Sam Harding.

                  Not disagreeing, I assume Rassie is too.

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                    @nepia said in England v South Africa:

                    I saw a tallish but not particularly large bloke in the gym a couple of months ago and was surprised that on closer inspection it was Dallaglio. I'd say he's lost a couple of stone since his playing days. So not too surprising Rassie does seem particularly large against AE who is 6' 4 1/2.

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                      @nepia said in England v South Africa:

                      I saw a tallish but not particularly large bloke in the gym a couple of months ago and was surprised that on closer inspection it was Dallaglio. I'd say he's lost a couple of stone since his playing days. So not too surprising Rassie does seem particularly large against AE who is 6' 4 1/2.

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                      @pakman a number of those ex England guys are now into road cycling (including Dallaglio). Austin Healey and especially Martin Johnson are right into it and are at a pretty decent standard. Johnson was looking v slim last time I saw him on a bike.

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                        My son works with quite a few ex players as a trainer to change their bodies for life after code. Gone are the days when an ex-player just goes to fat (unless that's their choice). Sports science is pretty good now on 'shifting' bulk or removing it gradually.
                        Many do end up taking up other sports as they realise the competitive drive hasn't gone.

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                        • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                          What a rubbish game of rugby. The Boks really could've / should've won that comfortably. But they were both sloppy and at times just plain dumb against an England team which the nicest thing I can say about is that they hung in courageously - and kicked their penalties.

                          Annoying game on so many levels:
                          BOKS:
                          Poor handling by the Boks.
                          Shambles of a lineout.
                          Very stupid managing of the game when they had a one man advantage... Take the scrum ffs!

                          ANGUS GARDINER & AR's:
                          What is the point of having scrums when you are going to allow England to feed the ball under the feet of their flanker? Gardiner positioned himself on the other side of the scrum at pretty much every England put-in.
                          Ugh.

                          And in that final phase of the match:
                          Johnny May a good few meters offsides - how was that missed?
                          Farrell's tackle... if that is not a shoulder charge then Butch James should never have copped a penalty in his life.

                          But the fact that the above annoyed me so much, is testament to the fact that the Boks were their own worst enemy. Congrats to England for the win, but I can't help feeling that the Boks pretty much beat themselves.

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                          @billy-webb Another annoying thing about the game was the nothingness of the penalties that England scored off

                          1 off side from a knockon
                          2 off side where there was no pressure, just poor timing
                          3 not sure, De Allende was disrupting with his boot, but again a nothing position in the middle of the pitch
                          4 contact in the air at the line out (I thought that was soft, but Itoje gave away very soft one earlier) - missed
                          5 - a scrum penalty that went the wrong way, but at least this one was in dangerous position ( we also scored from a incorrect call in the first half).

                          It's not like we were robbed, just really soft points to concede, which sucks hairy ones.

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                            @pakman a number of those ex England guys are now into road cycling (including Dallaglio). Austin Healey and especially Martin Johnson are right into it and are at a pretty decent standard. Johnson was looking v slim last time I saw him on a bike.

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                            @scribe a number of retired boks have taken up cycling, Joel Stransky, Rob Kempson and Victor Matfield all done the Cape Epic which is pretty extreme mtb challenge.

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                              @scribe a number of retired boks have taken up cycling, Joel Stransky, Rob Kempson and Victor Matfield all done the Cape Epic which is pretty extreme mtb challenge.

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                              @sidbarret said in England v South Africa:

                              @scribe a number of retired boks have taken up cycling, Joel Stransky, Rob Kempson and Victor Matfield all done the Cape Epic which is pretty extreme mtb challenge.

                              That ride is insane (as are those that do it)

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                                @sidbarret said in England v South Africa:

                                @scribe a number of retired boks have taken up cycling, Joel Stransky, Rob Kempson and Victor Matfield all done the Cape Epic which is pretty extreme mtb challenge.

                                That ride is insane (as are those that do it)

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                                SidBarret
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                                @crucial true, but doable by anyone with serious OCD.

                                Beautiful as well

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                                  saw a pic of McCaw recently, and he has lost alot of his bulk...given he used to like running anyway, but now without the muscle he also needed he almost looks a bit too thin.

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                                    saw a pic of McCaw recently, and he has lost alot of his bulk...given he used to like running anyway, but now without the muscle he also needed he almost looks a bit too thin.

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                                    @taniwharugby said in England v South Africa:

                                    saw a pic of McCaw recently, and he has lost alot of his bulk...given he used to like running anyway, but now without the muscle he also needed he almost looks a bit too thin.

                                    He is doing is doing some serious enduro events so I imagine he will be trying to run as light as possible.

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                                      @taniwharugby said in England v South Africa:

                                      saw a pic of McCaw recently, and he has lost alot of his bulk...given he used to like running anyway, but now without the muscle he also needed he almost looks a bit too thin.

                                      He is doing is doing some serious enduro events so I imagine he will be trying to run as light as possible.

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                                      @hooroo oh yeah I realise that, still when you have seen him at his playing weight of around 110kg or whatever he was, he looks like he's probably down about 90kg, just doesnt look right

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                                        @scribe a number of retired boks have taken up cycling, Joel Stransky, Rob Kempson and Victor Matfield all done the Cape Epic which is pretty extreme mtb challenge.

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                                        @sidbarret said in England v South Africa:

                                        @scribe a number of retired boks have taken up cycling, Joel Stransky, Rob Kempson and Victor Matfield all done the Cape Epic which is pretty extreme mtb challenge.

                                        Kempson was a lumpy unit in his playing days. Dallaglio and Warren Smith, the Ski Academy guy, for the last few years have ridden some of the Tour de France routes for various charities.

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                                          https://twitter.com/alistokesrugby/status/1068410594125074435

                                          Gold

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