England vs All Blacks
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dont think it's been mentioned?
But anyone read the pile of steaming poo that Gregor Paul wrote about Shields?
he has made some pretty bold statements that the AB coaches 'cant stand' Brad Shields - if I put my own spin on it, my view would be they dont like the fact he can up sticks and play in another country so easily, but as it's all done within the rules by the governing body, whats the issue?
There are no direct quotes or actual evidence in the article, but seems he's just written and article based on what he thinks they think?
We benefitted in the past when the rules were less stringent (Michael Jones, Frank Bunce to name a couple)
Going back a number of years I used to like his articles, but in recent times he seems to be moving toward the click bait type reads that @MN5 's Dad and Uncle write!
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dont think it's been mentioned?
But anyone read the pile of steaming poo that Gregor Paul wrote about Shields?
he has made some pretty bold statements that the AB coaches 'cant stand' Brad Shields - if I put my own spin on it, my view would be they dont like the fact he can up sticks and play in another country so easily, but as it's all done within the rules by the governing body, whats the issue?
There are no direct quotes or actual evidence in the article, but seems he's just written and article based on what he thinks they think?
We benefitted in the past when the rules were less stringent (Michael Jones, Frank Bunce to name a couple)
Going back a number of years I used to like his articles, but in recent times he seems to be moving toward the click bait type reads that @MN5 's Dad and Uncle write!
@taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:
dont think it's been mentioned?
But anyone read the pile of steaming poo that Gregor Paul wrote about Shields?
he has made some pretty bold statements that the AB coaches 'cant stand' Brad Shields - if I put my own spin on it, my view would be they dont like the fact he can up sticks and play in another country so easily, but as it's all done within the rules by the governing body, whats the issue?
There are no direct quotes or actual evidence in the article, but seems he's just written and article based on what he thinks they think?
We benefitted in the past when the rules were less stringent (Michael Jones, Frank Bunce to name a couple)
Going back a number of years I used to like his articles, but in recent times he seems to be moving toward the click bait type reads that @MN5 's Dad and Uncle write!
To use an analogy someone used when trying to pick between Trump and Clinton: Trying to pick a decent NZ Rugby journo is like trying to choose the cleanest end of a piece of dog shit to pick up. They are all terrible, admittedly in some cases for completely different reasons than eachother.
Contrast that with some really good British ones, ex players John Beattie, Will Greenwood and Gordon D'arcy all write good insightful and entertaining articles.
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dont think it's been mentioned?
But anyone read the pile of steaming poo that Gregor Paul wrote about Shields?
he has made some pretty bold statements that the AB coaches 'cant stand' Brad Shields - if I put my own spin on it, my view would be they dont like the fact he can up sticks and play in another country so easily, but as it's all done within the rules by the governing body, whats the issue?
There are no direct quotes or actual evidence in the article, but seems he's just written and article based on what he thinks they think?
We benefitted in the past when the rules were less stringent (Michael Jones, Frank Bunce to name a couple)
Going back a number of years I used to like his articles, but in recent times he seems to be moving toward the click bait type reads that @MN5 's Dad and Uncle write!
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@victor-meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
Worked in Sth Wales for 2 years. The likes of Jason Leonard, Will Carling & Robshaw etc, were regarded as top blokes while the likes of Mike Brown or Matt Dawson were seen as twats.
Personally, I think the Welsh just have a finely developed sense of which players are pricks to lose to...
Oh, and Jonathan "space out wide, space out wide" Davies was regarded as a complete tosser for some reason
Yep.
Last 3 of 5 speakers at my local club's annual dinner have been English - Jon Bentley, Andy Rippley, Shaun Edwards.
All have delivered heartfelt and honest talks, taken some tough Q&As, and stuck around and stayed over to drink the night away and talk bollocks with the boys.
Leg Ends.
The dislike of Jonathan Davies by some may be down to his family circumstances rather than his playing career. Won't elaborate but he might not be whiter than white if you get my drift.
@mikethesnow said in England vs All Blacks:
@victor-meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
Worked in Sth Wales for 2 years. The likes of Jason Leonard, Will Carling & Robshaw etc, were regarded as top blokes while the likes of Mike Brown or Matt Dawson were seen as twats.
Personally, I think the Welsh just have a finely developed sense of which players are pricks to lose to...
Oh, and Jonathan "space out wide, space out wide" Davies was regarded as a complete tosser for some reason
Yep.
Last 3 of 5 speakers at my local club's annual dinner have been English - Jon Bentley, Andy Rippley, Shaun Edwards.
All have delivered heartfelt and honest talks, taken some tough Q&As, and stuck around and stayed over to drink the night away and talk bollocks with the boys.
Leg Ends.
The dislike of Jonathan Davies by some may be down to his family circumstances rather than his playing career. Won't elaborate but he might not be whiter than white if you get my drift.
Last 5 years, are you sure it was Andy Ripley, Mike? If it was I hope the medium got a bloody good fee. The great man died in 2010
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i did read that article. It was long on conjecture, and very short on any substance.
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A fairly predictable team. McKenzie looks to be the no1 fullback because Barrett can't run a team by himself. All Blacks: Damian McKenzie, Ben Smith, Jack Goodhue, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read (capt), Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Codie Taylor, Karl Tu'inukuafe. Reserves: Dane Coles, Ofa Tuungafasi, Nepo Laulala, Scott Barrett, Matt Todd, TJ Perenara, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty
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Crotty on the bench is a waste of a spot
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@machpants said in England vs All Blacks:
Where that from, or is that a predicted 23?
I have friends in the media.
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@machpants said in England vs All Blacks:
Where that from, or is that a predicted 23?
I have friends in the media.
@southernmann said in England vs All Blacks:
@machpants said in England vs All Blacks:
Where that from, or is that a predicted 23?
I have friends in the media.
If they're right then this :
@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
Crotty on the bench is a waste of a spot
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@southernmann said in England vs All Blacks:
@machpants said in England vs All Blacks:
Where that from, or is that a predicted 23?
I have friends in the media.
If they're right then this :
@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
Crotty on the bench is a waste of a spot
@machpants said in England vs All Blacks:
@southernmann said in England vs All Blacks:
@machpants said in England vs All Blacks:
Where that from, or is that a predicted 23?
I have friends in the media.
If they're right then this :
@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
Crotty on the bench is a waste of a spot
They are correct. It is the embargoed squad that was released to media, it will be out to the public at 5pm.
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Crotty on the bench is a waste of a spot
@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
Crotty on the bench is a waste of a spot
YEah but that is one hell of a sexy starting 15!
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@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
Crotty on the bench is a waste of a spot
YEah but that is one hell of a sexy starting 15!
@hooroo said in England vs All Blacks:
@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
Crotty on the bench is a waste of a spot
YEah but that is one hell of a sexy starting 15!
23 man game these days and all that
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@hooroo said in England vs All Blacks:
@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
Crotty on the bench is a waste of a spot
YEah but that is one hell of a sexy starting 15!
23 man game these days and all that
@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
@hooroo said in England vs All Blacks:
@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
Crotty on the bench is a waste of a spot
YEah but that is one hell of a sexy starting 15!
23 man game these days and all that
YEah but reserves are the Ciggie after not the foreplay and main event!
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@hooroo said in England vs All Blacks:
@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
Crotty on the bench is a waste of a spot
YEah but that is one hell of a sexy starting 15!
23 man game these days and all that
@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
man game these days and all that
Yeah I'd be more inclined to have ALB on the bench, or truth be told, ALB-JG mid-field. You'd assume they have the best medical advice and knowledge about where Goodhue's fitness, energy and all that in relation to his illness is.
Obviously from my couch, SBW should be last chance saloon...but they clearly see his influence on the game as different to mine.
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A fairly predictable team. McKenzie looks to be the no1 fullback because Barrett can't run a team by himself. All Blacks: Damian McKenzie, Ben Smith, Jack Goodhue, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read (capt), Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Codie Taylor, Karl Tu'inukuafe. Reserves: Dane Coles, Ofa Tuungafasi, Nepo Laulala, Scott Barrett, Matt Todd, TJ Perenara, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty
@southernmann said in England vs All Blacks:
A fairly predictable team. Jack Goodhue, Sonny Bill Williams,
Boomfa!
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@southernmann said in England vs All Blacks:
A fairly predictable team. Jack Goodhue, Sonny Bill Williams,
Boomfa!
@nzzp said in England vs All Blacks:
@southernmann said in England vs All Blacks:
A fairly predictable team. Jack Goodhue, Sonny Bill Williams,
Boomfa!
The midfield they wanted to play in Pretoria (until injury). Let's hope it's as good as the hype.
I hope we see a ALB-Goodhue combo vs Italy.
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@nzzp said in England vs All Blacks:
@southernmann said in England vs All Blacks:
A fairly predictable team. Jack Goodhue, Sonny Bill Williams,
Boomfa!
The midfield they wanted to play in Pretoria (until injury). Let's hope it's as good as the hype.
I hope we see a ALB-Goodhue combo vs Italy.
@bovidae said in England vs All Blacks:
@nzzp said in England vs All Blacks:
@southernmann said in England vs All Blacks:
A fairly predictable team. Jack Goodhue, Sonny Bill Williams,
Boomfa!
The midfield they wanted to play in Pretoria (until injury). Let's hope it's as good as the hype.
I think the hype is more anticipation -- it's going to be super tasty
