England vs All Blacks
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@dk said in England vs All Blacks:
The matchday 23 is as follows (with Test caps in brackets):
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Karl Tu'inukuafe (10)
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Codie Taylor (39)
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Owen Franks (104)
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Samuel Whitelock (106)
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Brodie Retallick (72)
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Liam Squire (21)
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Ardie Savea (32)
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Kieran Read - captain (115)
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Aaron Smith (80)
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Beauden Barrett (70)
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Rieko Ioane (21)
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Sonny Bill Williams (50)
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Jack Goodhue (5)
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Ben Smith (74)
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Damian McKenzie (20)
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Dane Coles (57)
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Ofa Tuungafasi (23)
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Nepo Laulala (14)
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Scott Barrett (26)
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Matt Todd (15)
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TJ Perenara (52)
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Richie Mo'unga (5)
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Ryan Crotty (42)
Ugh. What a sickeningly talented bloomin team. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
Good to see Retallick back in action. You guys missed him in the Rugby Championship (yeah, yeah, I know you still bloody won but still..).
Will be interesting to see how match fit he is. Has he played much since missing TRC?@billy-webb said in England vs All Blacks:
Good to see Retallick back in action. You guys missed him in the Rugby Championship (yeah, yeah, I know you still bloody won but still..).
Will be interesting to see how match fit he is. Has he played much since missing TRC?
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@billy-webb said in England vs All Blacks:
Good to see Retallick back in action. You guys missed him in the Rugby Championship (yeah, yeah, I know you still bloody won but still..).
Will be interesting to see how match fit he is. Has he played much since missing TRC?
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hahaha.
Nice.Still... who's covering on the bench? Barrett? That's like going from driving an F1 to pedalling a box car...
@billy-webb said in England vs All Blacks:
hahaha.
Nice.Still... who's covering on the bench? Barrett? That's like going from driving an F1 to pedalling a box car...
Barrett did alright against your mob. True that there's only one BBBR though.
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@billy-webb said in England vs All Blacks:
hahaha.
Nice.Still... who's covering on the bench? Barrett? That's like going from driving an F1 to pedalling a box car...
Barrett did alright against your mob. True that there's only one BBBR though.
@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@billy-webb said in England vs All Blacks:
hahaha.
Nice.Still... who's covering on the bench? Barrett? That's like going from driving an F1 to pedalling a box car...
Barrett did alright against your mob. True that there's only one BBBR though.
He did indeed. If memory serves, he was instrumental in the final score against us at Loftus. Much to my surprise.
And most international locks will suffer in comparison to BR.
But if barrett come on for BR, my analogy stands
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@catogrande yeah we decided to leave our best loosehead and openside out, plus a fifth of the team are returning from injury or illness. Should be evens.
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande yeah we decided to leave our best loosehead and openside out, plus a fifth of the team are returning from injury or illness. Should be evens.
I'm surprised you're not claiming underdog status.
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@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande yeah we decided to leave our best loosehead and openside out, plus a fifth of the team are returning from injury or illness. Should be evens.
I'm surprised you're not claiming underdog status.
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande yeah we decided to leave our best loosehead and openside out, plus a fifth of the team are returning from injury or illness. Should be evens.
I'm surprised you're not claiming underdog status.
At home in Fortress Twickenham, coming off a resounding win against the last team to beat us, combinations cemented with influential players returning.
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@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande yeah we decided to leave our best loosehead and openside out, plus a fifth of the team are returning from injury or illness. Should be evens.
I'm surprised you're not claiming underdog status.
At home in Fortress Twickenham, coming off a resounding win against the last team to beat us, combinations cemented with influential players returning.
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande yeah we decided to leave our best loosehead and openside out, plus a fifth of the team are returning from injury or illness. Should be evens.
I'm surprised you're not claiming underdog status.
At home in Fortress Twickenham, coming off a resounding win against the last team to beat us, combinations cemented with influential players returning.
You, sir, have real talent.
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@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@nevorian said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo they wouldn't be expecting Goodhue to see out the full 80 either would they?
Not really sure. Umm ... where did I discuss Goodhue?
I think that's referring to the
@gunner - What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
@booboo - Ardie to 2nd 5/8?So... of the 3 mid-fielders, 2 have reputations of breaking down, and the other is playing first game after an infection which causes one to "run out of gas" very very quickly.
Ardie at 2nd 5/8 suddenly looking like something that might really happen.@kruse said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@nevorian said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo they wouldn't be expecting Goodhue to see out the full 80 either would they?
Not really sure. Umm ... where did I discuss Goodhue?
I think that's referring to the
@gunner - What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
@booboo - Ardie to 2nd 5/8?So... of the 3 mid-fielders, 2 have reputations of breaking down, and the other is playing first game after an infection which causes one to "run out of gas" very very quickly.
Ardie at 2nd 5/8 suddenly looking like something that might really happen.TSF predicts the future once more
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England team to play the All Blacks:-
England: Elliot Daly; Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May; Owen Farrell (co-captain), Ben Youngs; Ben Moon, Dylan Hartley (co-captain), Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, George Kruis, Brad Shields, Sam Underhill, Mark Wilson.
Replacements: Jamie George, Alec Hepburn, Harry Williams, Charlie Ewels, Courtney Lawes, Danny Care, George Ford, Jack Nowell.
I think beer will be my friend on Saturday.
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
England team to play the All Blacks:-
England: Elliot Daly; Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May; Owen Farrell (co-captain), Ben Youngs; Ben Moon, Dylan Hartley (co-captain), Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, George Kruis, Brad Shields, Sam Underhill, Mark Wilson.
Replacements: Jamie George, Alec Hepburn, Harry Williams, Charlie Ewels, Courtney Lawes, Danny Care, George Ford, Jack Nowell.
I think beer will be my friend on Saturday.
Strong team that will suit England's game plan and purposes well. The return of Chris Ashton and Brad Shields inside knowledge of NZ Rugby will give them a lift. Clever Eddie Jones.
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The English coaches are encouraging Itoje to get in the faces of the ABs and be confrontational (i.e., continue to be a penalty magnet). Should be fun as long as Garces hasn't made another deal.
@bovidae said in England vs All Blacks:
The English coaches are encouraging Itoje to get in the faces of the ABs and be confrontational (i.e., continue to be a penalty magnet). Should be fun as long as Garces hasn't made another deal.
I think you misspelled cock as penalty magnet
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@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
England team to play the All Blacks:-
England: Elliot Daly; Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May; Owen Farrell (co-captain), Ben Youngs; Ben Moon, Dylan Hartley (co-captain), Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, George Kruis, Brad Shields, Sam Underhill, Mark Wilson.
Replacements: Jamie George, Alec Hepburn, Harry Williams, Charlie Ewels, Courtney Lawes, Danny Care, George Ford, Jack Nowell.
I think beer will be my friend on Saturday.
Strong team that will suit England's game plan and purposes well. The return of Chris Ashton and Brad Shields inside knowledge of NZ Rugby will give them a lift. Clever Eddie Jones.
@sparky said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
England team to play the All Blacks:-
England: Elliot Daly; Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May; Owen Farrell (co-captain), Ben Youngs; Ben Moon, Dylan Hartley (co-captain), Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, George Kruis, Brad Shields, Sam Underhill, Mark Wilson.
Replacements: Jamie George, Alec Hepburn, Harry Williams, Charlie Ewels, Courtney Lawes, Danny Care, George Ford, Jack Nowell.
I think beer will be my friend on Saturday.
Strong team that will suit England's game plan and purposes well. The return of Chris Ashton and Brad Shields inside knowledge of NZ Rugby will give them a lift. Clever Eddie Jones.
The All Blacks are very strong and will be tough to beat.
Thanks for that startling insight Brad.
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The English coaches are encouraging Itoje to get in the faces of the ABs and be confrontational (i.e., continue to be a penalty magnet). Should be fun as long as Garces hasn't made another deal.
@bovidae well for the Lions he was allowed to stand on our side of the rucks/mauls, living offside being a general nuisance, so with Garces there, dont think we'll see any more penalties.
If he wants to go all tough guy, great, as long as Garces is up to the task of dealing with it, that I doubt he is...astounding he gets these top gigs.
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The English coaches are encouraging Itoje to get in the faces of the ABs and be confrontational (i.e., continue to be a penalty magnet). Should be fun as long as Garces hasn't made another deal.
@bovidae said in England vs All Blacks:
The English coaches are encouraging Itoje to get in the faces of the ABs and be confrontational (i.e., continue to be a penalty magnet). Should be fun as long as Garces hasn't made another deal.
Source?
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Interesting Shag saying , we want to play two playmakers ,
Could be a sign from here on in , Beaudy , Dmac and Richie will be all in the 23 ,
With 2 being on the field at one time , gives us more flexibility where we attack from , and takes the heat off Beauden to create everything
@kiwiinmelb said in England vs All Blacks:
Interesting Shag saying , we want to play two playmakers ,
The argument he makes seems to make more sense with Beaudy at fullback and Richie and first-five. Having two points of attack to take the defence's focus off one is a great idea in theory, but if the English defence start forcing Barrett to make errors I expect McKenzie to as well. When the poor option taking happens it seems to be contagious with those two.
