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    @act-crusader

    Thought that would send off the bat sign.

    Lately (i.e., last five or 6 games), it's pretty much always two actual missed tackles, and I wonder if that is because he is getting tired?

    He did well against Australia, but less well against the French. Overall, I have him at about 78% success for this year, and 1.9 missed tackles over 80 minutes across 10 matches - including the three matches where he missed none. Source: ESPN stats

    vs England, 44 minutes, made 6, missed 2 (75%, 3.6 for 80 minutes)
    vs Australia (Tokyo), 52 minutes, made 5, missed 2 (71%, 3.1 for 80 minutes)
    vs SA (in SA), 45 minutes, made 9, missed 2 (82%, 3.6 for 80 minutes)
    vs SA (Wellington), 48 minutes, made 2, missed 1 (66%, 1.7 for 80 minutes)
    vs Argentina (Nelson), 46 minutes, made 3, missed 2 (60%, 3.5 for 80 minutes)
    vs Aus (Auckland), 51 minutes, made 11, missed 0 (100%, 0 for 80 minutes)
    vs Aus (Sydney), 58 minutes, made 8, missed 0 (100%, 0 for 80 minutes)
    vs France (Dunedin), 45 minutes, made 10, missed 2 (83%, 3.6 for 80 minutes)
    vs France (Wellington), 33 minutes, made 3, missed 3 (50%, 7.3 for 80 minutes)
    vs France (Auckland), 57 minutes, made 5, missed 0 (100%, 0 for 80 minutes)

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    Something that may be a positive for Franks, is that for some reason he still draws tacklers, even though he pretty much goes to ground before he even reaches them. With nothing to back this up - it's pretty rare to turnover from a Franks carry and I'd say it's often quick ball (obviously goes hand-in-hand with a negative or zero metres carry).

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    @bones

    Could be? These turnovers aren't necessarily from carries, but ESPN says:

    vs England, 44 minutes, 4 runs, 1 metres, 0 turnovers
    vs Australia (Tokyo), 52 minutes, 4 runs, 0 metres, 0 turnovers
    vs SA (in SA), 45 minutes, 0 runs, 0 metres, 0 turnovers
    vs SA (Wellington), 48 minutes, 3 runs, 0 metres, 0 turnovers
    vs Argentina (Nelson), 46 minutes, 7 runs, 3 metres, 1 turnovers
    vs Aus (Auckland), 51 minutes, 4 runs, 1 metres, 0 turnovers
    vs Aus (Sydney), 58 minutes, 3 runs, 0 metres, 1 turnovers
    vs France (Dunedin), 45 minutes, 3 runs, 2 metres, 0 turnovers
    vs France (Wellington), 33 minutes, 4 runs, 3 metres, 1 turnover
    vs France (Auckland), 57 minutes, 4 runs, 0 metres, 0 turnovers

    We all know he's not much of a ball runner.

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    @gt12 4 turnovers in 36 runs, around about 1 every 3 games. Seems pretty sound.

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    Saw Fitzy on Saturday. Looked fit enough to carry Mehrts under one arm to said buffet without breaking sweat.

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    @victor-meldrew said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @jegga

    Saw Fitzy on Saturday. Looked fit enough to carry Mehrts under one arm to said buffet without breaking sweat.

    Did you ask him out for breakfast? Just seeing him doesn't count.

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    Marshall had the ability to take a game by the scruff of the neck in a way other halfbacks couldn't, aside from maybe Weepu. From memory the 2003 RWC game against Wales. There's a lot to admire about that, but it's an easy vote for Smith for me. He makes the rest of the team play better, which is what I consider to be the halfback's key role.

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    http://www.allblacks.com/News/33435/a-rivalry-in-numbers-all-blacks-vs-ireland

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    @ACT-Crusader and @gt12 I think one of Owen's extra roles is to carry the aura!! But more seriously I think he does have some intimidation factor around scrummaging and ruck clean outs etc. Plus every now again he REALLY tags people in the tackle.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @bovidae said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @booboo said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Isn't Marshall the losingest All Black? More losses than any other?

    I think he is. 19 losses in 81 tests. Edit: Mehrts also had 19 test losses but in 70 tests.

    @Paekakboyz Randell had 14 losses in 51 tests.

    Randall could also only do two chin ups at Highlanders training. This is less than @Rocky-Rock-Rockbottom rock and @NTA

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    @bovidae said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @booboo said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Isn't Marshall the losingest All Black? More losses than any other?

    I think he is. 19 losses in 81 tests. Edit: Mehrts also had 19 test losses but in 70 tests.

    @Paekakboyz Randell had 14 losses in 51 tests.

    The men in mustard were in their prime back then, which had plenty to do with those stats.

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    Man this thread has become 'fern-retarded'

    Marshall v Smith? Good grief!

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    @hooroo said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Man this thread has become 'fern-retarded'

    Marshall v Smith? Good grief!

    Says the guy living every young girls childhood dream, go tend to your ponies.

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    @bones said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @hooroo said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Man this thread has become 'fern-retarded'

    Marshall v Smith? Good grief!

    Says the guy living every young girls childhood dream, go tend to your ponies.

    I don't get the reference to your post and fern-retarded?

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    @bones said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @hooroo said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Man this thread has become 'fern-retarded'

    Marshall v Smith? Good grief!

    Says the guy living every young girls childhood dream, go tend to your ponies.

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  • BonesB Online
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    @hooroo said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @bones said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @hooroo said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Man this thread has become 'fern-retarded'

    Marshall v Smith? Good grief!

    Says the guy living every young girls childhood dream, go tend to your ponies.

    I don't get the reference to your post and fern-retarded?

    Prexactly.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @paekakboyz said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @ACT-Crusader and @gt12 I think one of Owen's extra roles is to carry the aura!! But more seriously I think he does have some intimidation factor around scrummaging and ruck clean outs etc. Plus every now again he REALLY tags people in the tackle.

    Number one is that he provides a strong and stable scrum. Very rare that he goes backwards and he doesn't seem to get penalized much - especially compared to whomever plays loosehead.

    I though Laulala had some trouble on Saturday coming off the bench, where Owen didn't starting.

    You don't rush to get rid of that.

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  • zephyrZ Offline
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    Wikipedia's "History of rugby union matches between Ireland and New Zealand" currently has a draw, the other 29 games won by Ireland. Id post a screenshot if i knew how.

    History of rugby union matches between Ireland and New Zealand - Wikipedia
    friggin midget leprechauns

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    @zephyr said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Wikipedia's "History of rugby union matches between Ireland and New Zealand" currently has a draw, the other 29 games won by Ireland. Id post a screenshot if i knew how.

    History of rugby union matches between Ireland and New Zealand - Wikipedia
    friggin midget leprechauns

    Fixed. Until another potato headed 12 year old gets to find the edit function on wikipedia.

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