Ireland vs All Blacks (2018)
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Cane would have made a big difference today - but I still can't see this team winning three high-stakes tests in consecutive weeks next year.
The coaching team can bang on about trying new tactics and plans all they like - it's the basic skills and decision making that is killing them.
@rotated this was about physical contact rugby. Cane would have made a huge difference. Ardie is a different player and to me just doesn’t have that impact.
The tactics this year of kicking have let us down. We are not working on passing and running. When we need to the skills are not there.
Great Irish performance. Clinical.
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We were pretty dreadful in that game. What has happened to our ability to penetrate and score tries?
@damo said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
We were pretty dreadful in that game. What has happened to our ability to penetrate and score tries?
It was our inability to go forward, silly mistakes that cost us momentum, made everyone look bad. Only Ardie and S Barrett can hold their heads up high
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Wow.
Ireland clearly betterer today.
Tactics odd.
50-65min mark we were coming, then stopped. Maybe should've pushed for the corner instead of taking the penalty.
Retallick - that wasn't one of his best was it?
Read - is he cooked?
Whitelock
I think Perenara should've started - hes in better form than A.Smith.
We need something different in midfield - we're not making any metres there (even when SBW plays) -
We need to seriously consider Mo'unga now. Teams have worked out Barrett. Can Barrett adapt?
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In a weird way I’m glad we lost , these narrow out of jail wins put band aids on our weaknesses
@kiwiinmelb said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
In a weird way I’m glad we lost , these narrow out of jail wins put band aids on our weaknesses
Does it? You must know something the rest of us don’t.
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Wow.
Ireland clearly betterer today.
Tactics odd.
50-65min mark we were coming, then stopped. Maybe should've pushed for the corner instead of taking the penalty.
Retallick - that wasn't one of his best was it?
Read - is he cooked?
Whitelock
I think Perenara should've started - hes in better form than A.Smith.
We need something different in midfield - we're not making any metres there (even when SBW plays)@westcoastie said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Wow.
Ireland clearly betterer today.
Tactics odd.
50-65min mark we were coming, then stopped. Maybe should've pushed for the corner instead of taking the penalty.
Retallick - that wasn't one of his best was it?
Read - is he cooked?
Whitelock
I think Perenara should've started - hes in better form than A.Smith.
We need something different in midfield - we're not making any metres there (even when SBW plays)If Nonu is serious about making a tilt, and he's 85% as good as 2015 or better, he'll walk in
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@sparky said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Ian Foster's attack plans not good enough against the modern, super organised, super committed defences.
Our attack is fine. We had the opportunities to score points, we just didn't get over the line. That is on the players not the coaches.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
In a weird way I’m glad we lost , these narrow out of jail wins put band aids on our weaknesses
Does it? You must know something the rest of us don’t.
@act-crusader said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@kiwiinmelb said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
In a weird way I’m glad we lost , these narrow out of jail wins put band aids on our weaknesses
Does it? You must know something the rest of us don’t.
Graeme Henry himself said nothing brings you back down to earth like a loss
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@act-crusader said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
We started to look good, in the 78th minute.
Retallick argghhhhhhh. We had players out wide too.
Well done Ireland.
Not too concerned. It all has a familiar feel to 2014 to me.
We started to look good in the 50th minute but fucked it up with our continuous kicking. Had we been more patient, we would have scored.
@akan004 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@act-crusader said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
We started to look good, in the 78th minute.
Retallick argghhhhhhh. We had players out wide too.
Well done Ireland.
Not too concerned. It all has a familiar feel to 2014 to me.
We started to look good in the 50th minute but fucked it up with our continuous kicking. Had we been more patient, we would have scored.
Yeah, we did start to open it up but lacked composure when it mattered. Disappointing as we have generally been very clinical in that regard in previous seasons.
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@jc said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Irish passion got past Kiwi, erm, ingenuity...
COngrats to Ireland, thoroughly deserved.
You spelt mediocrity wrong
enga, inga, inja....mediocrity?
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@westcoastie said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Wow.
Ireland clearly betterer today.
Tactics odd.
50-65min mark we were coming, then stopped. Maybe should've pushed for the corner instead of taking the penalty.
Retallick - that wasn't one of his best was it?
Read - is he cooked?
Whitelock
I think Perenara should've started - hes in better form than A.Smith.
We need something different in midfield - we're not making any metres there (even when SBW plays)If Nonu is serious about making a tilt, and he's 85% as good as 2015 or better, he'll walk in
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@taniwharugby yep, nailed it that time. We were pretty average weren’t we? Apart from line outs it’s hard to see any area where we had an edge.
@jc we had more chip kicks than them!
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@canefan theres a real possibility of that isn't there?
@westcoastie said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@canefan theres a real possibility of that isn't there?
I'd be surprised. But then I've not kept an eye on his form. I won't jump to conclusions about individual players because we were collectively poor tonight. Ireland deserved their first ever home victory
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Brodie and Read played their worst games of the year.
The constant kicking was ridiculous - especially when down by 10.
Well done Irish. Well deserved win. Defense shut down the ABs.
Irish loosies destroyed ABs.
We still need a 6. These guys arent the answer.
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Said it after the England game and will again in these hugely anticipated fixtures for all the marbles the ABs always went into siege mentality, went up a gear and turned on a big performance...
In the past two years they couldn't against the Lions, they couldn't trying to avenge a home loss to the Boks, couldn't against England and couldn't here. This team does not have that gear, underlined by two of the leaders having their worst games in black.
Since 2004 the first generation of players built the juggernaut. The second generation enjoyed it. This third generation now has flushed it.
Fitzy needs to fly over there and lay on his "remember this feeling" speech because it seems Hansen or Read won't.
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Thought the problems laid with both halfbacks, who were either too slow in passing, or choosing the wrong option (box kick - never came good - obviously some badly though out tactic by the coaching staff).
Some of the high balls were also badly dealt with - though B Barrett was very good here. A Savea was good, so was Scott Barrett. Midfield was OK, liked ALB's little impact.
Good to see Barrett kicking well, too. Irish forwards were better up until O'Mahoney went off, but their defence held firm even without him.
Had the game gone on for another 20 mins, I think ABs would have easily ran away with it, Irish were clearly more spent than ABs.
Alas, it's an 80 minute game, so well done Ireland. You fucks
