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Ireland vs All Blacks (2018)

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    are we seeing the value of Wayne Smith this year?

    Our defence was a weapon forcing the opposition into areas they didnt want, we cause errors and boom, we strike, I suspect he also had a hand in our attack by the way things seem to be panning this year too.

    OUr defence this year has been leaky and been outscored 3 tries to 1 in the past 2 weeks...we are often maligned for our attack at all cost gameplan, which seems to have been kicked for touch (or not into touch as seems the case with fucking box kicks)

    When would we have last been outscored in the try stakes in 2 matches in the NH? Have we ever?

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    @taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    are we seeing the value of Wayne Smith this year?

    Our defence was a weapon forcing the opposition into areas they didnt want, we cause errors and boom, we strike, I suspect he also had a hand in our attack by the way things seem to be panning this year too.

    OUr defence this year has been leaky and been outscored 3 tries to 1 in the past 2 weeks...we are often maligned for our attack at all cost gameplan, which seems to have been kicked for touch (or not into touch as seems the case with fucking box kicks)

    When would we have last been outscored in the try stakes in 2 matches in the NH? Have we ever?

    Give Wayne what ever he wants

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @canefan said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

      Yeah he is. Point I'm making is whether he is good enough to be our first choice number 12 and right now I'm not convinced

      Yes debatable. I am an ALB fan, so I'd have him and Goodhue.

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      @snowy I like ALB as a 13, we seem to lack depth there
      ALB and Goodhue daylight 3rd?

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        @snowy I like ALB as a 13, we seem to lack depth there
        ALB and Goodhue daylight 3rd?

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        @kidcalder said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

        @snowy I like ALB as a 13, we seem to lack depth there
        ALB and Goodhue daylight 3rd?

        I'd actually have them the other way around? ALB seems to have a kicking game that is better than Jack's. Based on SR not tests.

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          I also rate Goodhue's defence.

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            D Mac went a bit AWOL in the build-up to the Try:

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            • sparkyS sparky

              D Mac went a bit AWOL in the build-up to the Try:

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              @sparky think that was Ben Smith down though wasnt it, so just smart in recognising the space.

              THat did have shades of the try we scored v Aus in Japan.

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                The ABs always have 2 players back on defence and DMac was defending the other side of the field.

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                  I've calmed down a bit. Critical moments and a different ref would have helped because we did dominate large parts of the game. Close, sure, but we did enough to beat them.

                  I really hate that fluffybunny Barnes - O.K. I haven't calmed down that much.

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                    Well I’m hoping Shag invites Wayne Smith over for a barbie over the break. We need some fresh ideas

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                      On the upside,not doubt the world press will be hailing Ireland as the RWC favourites for next year..
                      Tell you what I don’t mind the underdog tag..!,
                      But we need to get our shit together ..!

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                        I blame this year's shithouse performances on Labour. We never play well when those fluffybunnies are in power.

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                          Well I’m hoping Shag invites Wayne Smith over for a barbie over the break. We need some fresh ideas

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                          @jc said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

                          Well I’m hoping Shag invites Wayne Smith over for a barbie over the break. We need some fresh ideas

                          Why not both Smith and Ted?

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                            I blame this year's shithouse performances on Labour. We never play well when those fluffybunnies are in power.

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                            @akan004 I blame the Maori party,700,000 registered voters,and only 90,000 got for their arses to go and vote..which would have given a coalition to partner for National..

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                              Finally an answer to the age old question, "what's the worst test match the All Blacks have ever played?"

                              What even were the tactics that would win us that game? A lucky bounce from a kick?

                              There better be a large wad of dry powder somewhere in that All Black camp.

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                              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                @rancid-schnitzel that's why I pondered whether it was a conincidence. None of us will really know. We only saw Goodhue taking the ball on the run once and having enough time to pass to Ioane, and that was from a decent Mo'unga pass.

                                I am not a Barrett hater before anyone accuses me of being one. I am not convinced he is a world cup winning 10.

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                                @crazy-horse said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

                                @rancid-schnitzel that's why I pondered whether it was a conincidence. None of us will really know. We only saw Goodhue taking the ball on the run once and having enough time to pass to Ioane, and that was from a decent Mo'unga pass.

                                I am not a Barrett hater before anyone accuses me of being one. I am not convinced he is a world cup winning 10.

                                Well we know he can kick drop goals at least 😉.

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                                  What a game, well played Ireland, never let us have a sniff.

                                  Lots of work ons (don’t you love cliches), blindside flanker, midfield, Beaudies inabaility to get the backline running, inability to deal with flat agreesive defence, breakdown, BFA has to play fullback. Few players looking tired, Read, A.Smith, Whitelock. Uncharacteristic errors from a few others, looking at you BBBR.

                                  Will fortify myself for a second viewing.

                                  Is Ireland playing the blue print for World Cup finals rugby? They shaded us in the Scrum and kicking game, beat us up on the defensive line, and took there chance for the try, where we bombed our one chance

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                                    Well I’m hoping Shag invites Wayne Smith over for a barbie over the break. We need some fresh ideas

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                                    @jc said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

                                    Well I’m hoping Shag invites Wayne Smith over for a barbie over the break. We need some fresh ideas

                                    Henry showed he still has what it takes as defence coach for Auckland, he would be useful too.

                                    Foster is not a great attack coach either, and is a stubborn selector. Might need to keep Hanson but get rid of one of the other two.

                                    We are two years into having the same problems now, and the solution seems to be to stick with what’s notsl working, and double down.

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                                      Tell ya what , that pool game against South Africa becomes a must win game if it wasn’t already ,

                                      To avoid a quarter final against Ireland

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                                      • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                        @crazy-horse said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

                                        @rancid-schnitzel that's why I pondered whether it was a conincidence. None of us will really know. We only saw Goodhue taking the ball on the run once and having enough time to pass to Ioane, and that was from a decent Mo'unga pass.

                                        I am not a Barrett hater before anyone accuses me of being one. I am not convinced he is a world cup winning 10.

                                        Well we know he can kick drop goals at least 😉.

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                                        @rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

                                        @crazy-horse said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

                                        @rancid-schnitzel that's why I pondered whether it was a conincidence. None of us will really know. We only saw Goodhue taking the ball on the run once and having enough time to pass to Ioane, and that was from a decent Mo'unga pass.

                                        I am not a Barrett hater before anyone accuses me of being one. I am not convinced he is a world cup winning 10.

                                        Well we know he can kick drop goals at least 😉.

                                        But why?

                                        Free reign to have a crack with ball in hand, always coming back for the penalty if we fucked up ... so un-All Black

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                                        • dKD dK

                                          What a game, well played Ireland, never let us have a sniff.

                                          Lots of work ons (don’t you love cliches), blindside flanker, midfield, Beaudies inabaility to get the backline running, inability to deal with flat agreesive defence, breakdown, BFA has to play fullback. Few players looking tired, Read, A.Smith, Whitelock. Uncharacteristic errors from a few others, looking at you BBBR.

                                          Will fortify myself for a second viewing.

                                          Is Ireland playing the blue print for World Cup finals rugby? They shaded us in the Scrum and kicking game, beat us up on the defensive line, and took there chance for the try, where we bombed our one chance

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                                          @dk said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

                                          What a game, well played Ireland, never let us have a sniff.

                                          Lots of work ons (don’t you love cliches), blindside flanker, midfield, Beaudies inabaility to get the backline running, inability to deal with flat agreesive defence, breakdown, BFA has to play fullback. Few players looking tired, Read, A.Smith, Whitelock. Uncharacteristic errors from a few others, looking at you BBBR.

                                          Will fortify myself for a second viewing.

                                          Is Ireland playing the blue print for World Cup finals rugby? They shaded us in the Scrum and kicking game, beat us up on the defensive line, and took there chance for the try, where we bombed our one chance

                                          We bombed at least 3 by my count

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