Italy vs All Blacks
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Hansen said he wasn't a natural 7 and he was primarily a 6 who could cover 7. Fox made some comment about him being better suited to 6 too
Hopefully he gets the start at 6 this weekend. It would be a shame to take him on tour and not see him both positions
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Possible starting team for Italy:
Jordie Barrett, Waisake Naholo, Anton Lienert-Brown, Ngani Laumape, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara, Kieran Read, Dalton Papalii, Vaea Fifita, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Nepo Laulala, Dane Coles, Ofa Tuungafasi.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12162930
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Possible starting team for Italy:
Jordie Barrett, Waisake Naholo, Anton Lienert-Brown, Ngani Laumape, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara, Kieran Read, Dalton Papalii, Vaea Fifita, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Nepo Laulala, Dane Coles, Ofa Tuungafasi.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12162930
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I'm expecting to see a forward pack of:
Tuungafasi
Coles
Laulala
Tuipulotu
Retallick
Fifita
Papalii
ReadReserves: Harris, Tu'inukuafe, Ta'avao, S Barrett, Savea
Hopefully an ALB-Goodhue midfield.
@bovidae said in Italy vs All Blacks:
Hopefully an ALB-Goodhue midfield.
I'd like to see Mo'unga get a start. Don't think he a magic solution, but he needs some serious game-time with DMac and/or BB coming on as subs.
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Put it this way, if we lose to Italy, then i want everyone sacked. Everyone.
@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks:
Put it this way, if we lose to Italy, then i want everyone sacked. Everyone.
Good call. And sack the Brakes and Coaches as well
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@tim love the hyperbole 'one of the starting survivors' like they are all being dropped due to the loss.
@taniwharugby said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@tim love the hyperbole 'one of the starting survivors' like they are all being dropped due to the loss.
It's a Herald article. You almost sound surprised.
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@bovidae said in Italy vs All Blacks:
Hopefully an ALB-Goodhue midfield.
I'd like to see Mo'unga get a start. Don't think he a magic solution, but he needs some serious game-time with DMac and/or BB coming on as subs.
@victor-meldrew said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@bovidae said in Italy vs All Blacks:
Hopefully an ALB-Goodhue midfield.
I'd like to see Mo'unga get a start. Don't think he a magic solution, but he needs some serious game-time with DMac and/or BB coming on as subs.
I'm really warming to the idea of BB at fullback, with BFA on the right wing. Not so much because I think Mo'unga has all the answers at 10 right now, but he's easily good enough and will continue to improve. That coupled with the fact that BB's skillset really suits fullback - very good under the high ball, decent kicking game, and pace to burn in space - makes me think we have far better balance to our backline with him there.
What I would select right now:
TJP
Mo'unga
Rieko
Crotty
Goodhue
BFA
BeaudenA Smith
ALB
DMacOn the halfbacks - I think TJP is more suited to the early exchanges, with A Smith coming on in the 2nd half to up the ante.
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@victor-meldrew said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@bovidae said in Italy vs All Blacks:
Hopefully an ALB-Goodhue midfield.
I'd like to see Mo'unga get a start. Don't think he a magic solution, but he needs some serious game-time with DMac and/or BB coming on as subs.
I'm really warming to the idea of BB at fullback, with BFA on the right wing. Not so much because I think Mo'unga has all the answers at 10 right now, but he's easily good enough and will continue to improve. That coupled with the fact that BB's skillset really suits fullback - very good under the high ball, decent kicking game, and pace to burn in space - makes me think we have far better balance to our backline with him there.
What I would select right now:
TJP
Mo'unga
Rieko
Crotty
Goodhue
BFA
BeaudenA Smith
ALB
DMacOn the halfbacks - I think TJP is more suited to the early exchanges, with A Smith coming on in the 2nd half to up the ante.
@no-quarter and as evidence for the prosecution, see his pathetic attempt to defend the English openside last weekend. Completely lost.
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@no-quarter and as evidence for the prosecution, see his pathetic attempt to defend the English openside last weekend. Completely lost.
@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter and as evidence for the prosecution, see his pathetic attempt to defend the English openside last weekend. Completely lost.
Lay off Beaudie. You'd be scared and confused if Shrek was running at you too.
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@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter and as evidence for the prosecution, see his pathetic attempt to defend the English openside last weekend. Completely lost.
Lay off Beaudie. You'd be scared and confused if Shrek was running at you too.
@mn5 said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter and as evidence for the prosecution, see his pathetic attempt to defend the English openside last weekend. Completely lost.
Lay off Beaudie. You'd be scared and confused if Shrek was running at you too.
going by my history, that would depend on how many beers I've had
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@no-quarter and as evidence for the prosecution, see his pathetic attempt to defend the English openside last weekend. Completely lost.
@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter and as evidence for the prosecution, see his pathetic attempt to defend the English openside last weekend. Completely lost.
Haha, yes, that was a shocker. I do recall Dagg putting in some pretty meek efforts at tackling on more than one occasion, yet was still regarded highly. Beauden's cover defense is usually pretty good, he's saved our bacon on a number of other occasions due to his speed.
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@victor-meldrew said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@bovidae said in Italy vs All Blacks:
Hopefully an ALB-Goodhue midfield.
I'd like to see Mo'unga get a start. Don't think he a magic solution, but he needs some serious game-time with DMac and/or BB coming on as subs.
I'm really warming to the idea of BB at fullback, with BFA on the right wing. Not so much because I think Mo'unga has all the answers at 10 right now, but he's easily good enough and will continue to improve. That coupled with the fact that BB's skillset really suits fullback - very good under the high ball, decent kicking game, and pace to burn in space - makes me think we have far better balance to our backline with him there.
What I would select right now:
TJP
Mo'unga
Rieko
Crotty
Goodhue
BFA
BeaudenA Smith
ALB
DMacOn the halfbacks - I think TJP is more suited to the early exchanges, with A Smith coming on in the 2nd half to up the ante.
@no-quarter only thing there is that you're losing Mounga being able to take advantage of Smith's distribution.
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@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter and as evidence for the prosecution, see his pathetic attempt to defend the English openside last weekend. Completely lost.
Haha, yes, that was a shocker. I do recall Dagg putting in some pretty meek efforts at tackling on more than one occasion, yet was still regarded highly. Beauden's cover defense is usually pretty good, he's saved our bacon on a number of other occasions due to his speed.
@no-quarter said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter and as evidence for the prosecution, see his pathetic attempt to defend the English openside last weekend. Completely lost.
Haha, yes, that was a shocker. I do recall Dagg putting in some pretty meek efforts at tackling on more than one occasion, yet was still regarded highly. Beauden's cover defense is usually pretty good, he's saved our bacon on a number of other occasions due to his speed.
Dagg had some weaknesses but I can’t recall him being bamboozled like that. Dagg’s issue was more technique than anything else.
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@no-quarter said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter and as evidence for the prosecution, see his pathetic attempt to defend the English openside last weekend. Completely lost.
Haha, yes, that was a shocker. I do recall Dagg putting in some pretty meek efforts at tackling on more than one occasion, yet was still regarded highly. Beauden's cover defense is usually pretty good, he's saved our bacon on a number of other occasions due to his speed.
Dagg had some weaknesses but I can’t recall him being bamboozled like that. Dagg’s issue was more technique than anything else.
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@act-crusader didn't someone go around him like he wasn't even there once? I'm thinking someone not known for their pace.
@bones said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@act-crusader didn't someone go around him like he wasn't even there once? I'm thinking someone not known for their pace.
He was done like a dinner on numerous occasions. Once someone went through, that was it.
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My take:
Karl T/Coles/Nepo/BBBR/Scott B/Papali'i/Fifita/Read/Nuggett/Mo'unga/ALB/Jack G/Rieko/Naholo/Giraffe
Bench -- Harris/Ofa/Angus T/Patty T/Ardie/TTT/BB/Laumape
@pakman said in Italy vs All Blacks:
My take:
Karl T/Coles/Nepo/BBBR/Scott B/Papali'i/Fifita/Read/Nuggett/Mo'unga/ALB/Jack G/Rieko/Naholo/Giraffe
Bench -- Harris/Ofa/Angus T/Patty T/Ardie/TTT/BB/Laumape
Tough on ALB (as I'd really prefer him to be in the mix ahead of Crotty going forward) but I also suspect we will see a Laumape/Goodhue combo on the midfield.
