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  • TimT Tim

    Gosper gives one no confidence that his pronouncements are the result of coordinated analysis of refereeing ...

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    @tim said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

    Gosper gives one no confidence that his pronouncements are the result of coordinated analysis of refereeing ...

    what the fuck is an Australian pontificating about rugby for anyway? They're fucking hopeless at it...

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      Based on what Gosper and Pichot have said in recent days rugby is in good hands eh.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        Based on what Gosper and Pichot have said in recent days rugby is in good hands eh.

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        @bovidae 100% just making it up as they go. Policy making by the pint.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          Based on what Gosper and Pichot have said in recent days rugby is in good hands eh.

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          @bovidae said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

          Based on what Gosper and Pichot have said in recent days rugby is in good hands eh.

          what was Pichot's idiocy this time?

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @bovidae said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

            Based on what Gosper and Pichot have said in recent days rugby is in good hands eh.

            what was Pichot's idiocy this time?

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            @mariner4life pichots idea was the world league or whatever it is.

            Make test rugby great again...or still or not friendlies or something

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @bovidae said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

              Based on what Gosper and Pichot have said in recent days rugby is in good hands eh.

              what was Pichot's idiocy this time?

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              @mariner4life said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

              what was Pichot's idiocy this time?

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108781087/world-rugby-boss-agustin-pichot-sparks-outrage-by-sharing-xenophobic-squads-list

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @mariner4life said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

                what was Pichot's idiocy this time?

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108781087/world-rugby-boss-agustin-pichot-sparks-outrage-by-sharing-xenophobic-squads-list

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                @bovidae pffft haha what a dickhead

                And did Barnes really say that "Shields is the same as the ABs and PIs" crap? If so he is even more of a dickhead than i already thought.

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  World Rugby consider penalising players who get concussed

                  World Rugby is considering taking the extraordinary step that if a tackler is upright in a tackle and gets concussed, they’d also face a suspension because they’ll be deemed at fault.

                  “What we’re trying to do through a number of processes is to bring the tackle height down to protect more the tackler rather than the ball carrier,” World Rugby’s chief medical officer Martin Raftery told reporters at a briefing in Sydney.

                  “Yes, we’ve got to protect the ball carrier as well but the focus is on the tackler.

                  “There’s three phases and one phase is increasing the sanctions.

                  “By increasing the sanctions for illegal tackles, we’re more likely to protect the ball carrier but we’re hoping by increasing the sanctions, it draws attention to that issue and therefore the coaches start to improve the technique which then brings about lowering the tackle height.

                  “Second intervention is the high tackle warning system.

                  “That’s about penalising a tackler for being upright in a tackle who has then clear and obvious contact with the ball carrier.

                  “And it doesn’t matter whether the ball carrier is injured or the tackler is injured.

                  “If they’re upright and there’s clear and obvious head contact, he’ll receive an extra penalty, which is an off field penalty.”

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                  @antipodean so there goes an upright tackle trying to hold the player and ball up to force a maul and turnover

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @mariner4life said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

                    what was Pichot's idiocy this time?

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108781087/world-rugby-boss-agustin-pichot-sparks-outrage-by-sharing-xenophobic-squads-list

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                    @bovidae oh yea he did that too...although it is wrong cos the Beast isn't SA born is he?

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @bovidae oh yea he did that too...although it is wrong cos the Beast isn't SA born is he?

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                      @taniwharugby he's not in the squad!

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @taniwharugby he's not in the squad!

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                        @bones ah so selective then.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @bones ah so selective then.

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                          @taniwharugby well he's injured, not sure SA would have been left out of the list if he was in the squad. I was surprised there's no others born outside SA.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @taniwharugby well he's injured, not sure SA would have been left out of the list if he was in the squad. I was surprised there's no others born outside SA.

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                            @bones no one moves TO South Africa

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                              @bones no one moves TO South Africa

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                              @mariner4life ok John Mitchell.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @mariner4life ok John Mitchell.

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                                @bones said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

                                @mariner4life ok John Mitchell.

                                No one not on a journey

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                                  @bones said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

                                  @mariner4life ok John Mitchell.

                                  No one not on a journey

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                                  @machpants ok Carlos. Say hi to John.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @machpants ok Carlos. Say hi to John.

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                                    @bones He changed his mind, eventually (bit slow these Blues players)

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                                      @machpants ok Carlos. Say hi to John.

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                                      @bones So did Plumtree and Boyd.

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                                        World Rugby and unions advancing evidence-based approach to injury-prevention

                                        World Rugby has set out its 2019 plan to mitigate the risk of injury in the sport, beginning with a dedicated laws forum in March.
                                        
                                        In a year set to see the most rigorous tournament player welfare standards ever at Rugby World Cup 2019, the focus areas build on significant progress in the management of injuries, particularly concussion, (the latest Professional Rugby Injury Surveillance Project for the English elite game published this week demonstrates a 14.3 per cent drop in concussion incidence in line with other elite competitions) and reflect the international federation’s continued commitment to making the game as safe and simple to play as possible.
                                        
                                        The plan is centred on detailed research to ensure a comprehensive understanding of the causes of injury, both in a match and training environment, as well as a sustained and aligned approach to the implementation of prevention strategies across the game, from administrators, coaches, players and medics to referees. Approved by Council in November 2018, it focuses on five key pillars:
                                        
                                        * Law review: World Rugby, in collaboration with its unions and player representatives, will host a dedicated injury prevention laws review forum in Paris in March, kicking off the quadrennial laws review cycle. With the tackle responsible for up to 50 per cent of match injuries and 73 per cent of concussions in elite rugby, stakeholders will review the latest global injury surveillance data and consider the three-phase* approach to lowering the tackle height, while being encouraged to table suggestions for innovative and robust injury-prevention via possible law alteration.
                                        
                                        * Training load: Any player competing at Rugby World Cup 2019 must have a ‘load passport’ to encourage best-practice training load management between club and country environments (approved by the World Rugby Council in November 2018 and presented to tier one coaches), while all unions are encouraged to optimally manage load between club and national team environments based on published best-practice and guidance.
                                        
                                        * Injury surveillance: Under the revised premium standards for elite competitions approved by the World Rugby Executive Committee in September from 1 January, 2019 any competition applying to operate the Head Injury Assessment (HIA) process must now: a) undertake detailed injury surveillance in line with World Rugby standards to create one comprehensive annual set of comparable and definitive global data, b) operate a Match Day Doctor at every match, c) implement minimum video review standards and d) enable World Rugby representation on any HIA review panel.
                                        
                                        * Game preparation: Unions encouraged to universally adopt the Activate injury-prevention warm-up programme developed by the RFU and University of Bath, which has demonstrated a 50 per cent reduction in concussions and a 40 per cent injury reduction at community level when used three times or more a week (more info here).
                                        
                                        * Tackle education: All unions encouraged to ensure professional environments provide comprehensive training to all young professional players in best-practice tackling techniques as educated within community rugby programmes such as Rugby Ready. (The FFR announced in December 2018 that they will host seminars with all professional clubs in France).
                                        
                                        World Rugby Chairman Bill Beaumont said: (...)
                                        
                                        “Much progress has been made, particularly in the priority area of concussion. While player safety is rightly an emotive topic, it is important to note that globally injury incidence has not increased, which is testament to the injury-management programmes implemented across the game.
                                        
                                        “However, we continually strive for enhancement, and with the full support of our unions and their respective clubs, we can make further advances, particularly in the area of training load management, which is a key contributor to match injuries.
                                        
                                        “Our major focus is the tackle, which is the most common facet of the game, and this year we will complete the initial reduced tackle height trials. We are also going to be hosting a wide-ranging laws forum in Paris in March, with a focus on injury-prevention and how evaluation and evolution of the laws might impact this area within the next four-year laws review cycle.
                                        
                                        World Rugby Chief Medical Officer Dr Martin Raftery added: "While the number of rucks and ball in play time has increased over the past five years, the overall global incidence of injury has not increased, which means that the sport's medical standards and injury-prevention programmes in elite adult rugby are having a significantly positive impact.
                                        
                                        "As a sport, we are continuing to drive evidence-based interventions to further reduce that injury risk and this should begin with training load management. Training accounts for approximately 90 per cent of all player load and is a significant contributor to match injuries, particularly non-contact injuries (35 per cent of all injuries). Behavioural change is required in the understanding and management of individual player load and we will be launching research-based player load guidance in partnership with International Rugby Players this year.
                                        

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                                        New alterations to the laws of the game

                                        Meanwhile, the World Rugby Executive Committee has approved to adopt the revised Television Match Official (TMO) protocol into Law 6.16. The operated as a trial in the November window with the aim of reducing time impact and placing greater decision-making responsibility on the referee. The protocol can be viewed here https://laws.worldrugby.org/?law=6
                                        
                                        Law 15 (Ruck): The Executive Committee has also approved amendments to Law 15.4 to further clarify the laws regarding offside lines at the tackle and ruck. The revised law can be found here https://laws.worldrugby.org/?law=15
                                        
                                        These changes have immediate effect, with the exception of the revised TMO protocol which should be adopted for all competitions which commence after 1 January, 2019. This includes Super Rugby, the Six Nations and Rugby World Cup. Competitions that are already underway may continue under the old protocol until the current competition concludes. If these competitions wish to adopt the revised protocol now, they can do so.
                                        
                                        
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                                          So the biggest concussion incidence is in the Tackler, I've yet to see any evidence presented by WR that lowering the height reduces tackler concussion. I'm not saying it doesn't but it should be evidence based. I guess I've missed them presenting that evidence?

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