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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    Look, it's kinda stating the blatantly obvious, but if the only reason you are keeping the coach of the national rugby team in Australia is that you can't afford to replace him, then that is possibly the worst piece of governance of mainstream political sport that i have ever seen.

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    Look, it's kinda stating the blatantly obvious, but if the only reason you are keeping the coach of the national rugby team in Australia is that you can't afford to replace him, then that is possibly the worst piece of governance of mainstream political sport that i have ever seen.

    The issue isn't that they can't afford to pay another salary, the issue is they don't have ANY domestic coaches who they can turn to at Super level and with a straight face say "look we can't give you a pay increase but we can give you the opportunity".

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      You've got to ask what's the point of the press conference?

      https://www.facebook.com/7newssydney/videos/312012992739480/

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        Look, it's kinda stating the blatantly obvious, but if the only reason you are keeping the coach of the national rugby team in Australia is that you can't afford to replace him, then that is possibly the worst piece of governance of mainstream political sport that i have ever seen.

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        @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

        Look, it's kinda stating the blatantly obvious, but if the only reason you are keeping the coach of the national rugby team in Australia is that you can't afford to replace him, then that is possibly the worst piece of governance of mainstream political sport that i have ever seen.

        Which would be ignoring all the other issues they've created through shit governance and stewardship of the game.

        I point you back to my previous comments regarding one DO for all of Western Sydney.

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        • NTAN NTA

          @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

          Look, it's kinda stating the blatantly obvious, but if the only reason you are keeping the coach of the national rugby team in Australia is that you can't afford to replace him, then that is possibly the worst piece of governance of mainstream political sport that i have ever seen.

          Which would be ignoring all the other issues they've created through shit governance and stewardship of the game.

          I point you back to my previous comments regarding one DO for all of Western Sydney.

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          @nta said in Aussie Rugby in general:

          @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

          Look, it's kinda stating the blatantly obvious, but if the only reason you are keeping the coach of the national rugby team in Australia is that you can't afford to replace him, then that is possibly the worst piece of governance of mainstream political sport that i have ever seen.

          Which would be ignoring all the other issues they've created through shit governance and stewardship of the game.

          I point you back to my previous comments regarding one DO for all of Western Sydney.

          well yes, it's a tangled web of ineptitude.

          This is rugby in Australia, not underwater hockey. It's backed by and school tie brigade and the associated money. Where has the money gone? Why are the unions broke? Why are casual players funding the unions rather than the other way around? Why are high performance appointments based on affordability rather than results? It's damn near criminal

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @nta said in Aussie Rugby in general:

            @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

            Look, it's kinda stating the blatantly obvious, but if the only reason you are keeping the coach of the national rugby team in Australia is that you can't afford to replace him, then that is possibly the worst piece of governance of mainstream political sport that i have ever seen.

            Which would be ignoring all the other issues they've created through shit governance and stewardship of the game.

            I point you back to my previous comments regarding one DO for all of Western Sydney.

            well yes, it's a tangled web of ineptitude.

            This is rugby in Australia, not underwater hockey. It's backed by and school tie brigade and the associated money. Where has the money gone? Why are the unions broke? Why are casual players funding the unions rather than the other way around? Why are high performance appointments based on affordability rather than results? It's damn near criminal

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            @mariner4life because the old school ties are politically aligned and don't have to think for themselves. If you can get a job via networking the old school contracts, why do you need to think?

            That's generalising but there are a scary number of these people in positions of influence.

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              Explains Clyne.

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                https://twitter.com/FOXRUGBY/status/1073446912332713984

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                  Is that a joke? I'd be furious that a donkey like Scott Johnson was appointed to oversee me. At least Chieka has won things as a coach.

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                    Yep because what we've got is a need for more tiers 🙄

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      Is that a joke? I'd be furious that a donkey like Scott Johnson was appointed to oversee me. At least Chieka has won things as a coach.

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                      @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                      Is that a joke? I'd be furious that a donkey like Scott Johnson was appointed to oversee me. At least Chieka has won things as a coach.

                      I hope they got him cheaper than Scotland did.
                      He has seemingly leveraged a career off working with Henry and Hansen.

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                        Scott Johnson?

                        ...

                        Scott .. ?

                        Johnson?

                        Bwahahahahahaha

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                          First ScoMo now ScoJo

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            Scott Johnson?

                            ...

                            Scott .. ?

                            Johnson?

                            Bwahahahahahaha

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                            @booboo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                            Scott Johnson?

                            ...

                            Scott .. ?

                            Johnson?

                            Bwahahahahahaha

                            This

                            He’s an even bigger fraud than Jake White , how this ridiculous creature is seen as some sort of sage is a mystery.

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                              fluffybunnies , making me sympathetic to Krusty.

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                                No way that Cheika still stand for that is there? Surely he will walk. Surely.

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                                • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                                  No way that Cheika still stand for that is there? Surely he will walk. Surely.

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                                  @majorrage said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                  No way that Cheika still stand for that is there? Surely he will walk. Surely.

                                  Perhaps that's the ARU's cunning plan.

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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    You've got to ask what's the point of the press conference?

                                    https://www.facebook.com/7newssydney/videos/312012992739480/

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                                    @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                    You've got to ask what's the point of the press conference?

                                    https://www.facebook.com/7newssydney/videos/312012992739480/

                                    I thought it was an excellent snapshot of Australian Rugby.
                                    30 seconds of disorganised inept failed attempts at doing something,
                                    then 1 minute of confirming that nothing has been done - but don't worry, it's all in hand.

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                                    • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                                      No way that Cheika still stand for that is there? Surely he will walk. Surely.

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                                      @majorrage said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                      No way that Cheika still stand for that is there? Surely he will walk. Surely.

                                      He has told us many times he is filthy rich and doesn't need the job.

                                      Strange appointment unless it is more hands on than it appears. Surely there would be a better slate of candidates post-RWC (could even see some NZ candidates willing to take a DOR role there) and what can someone in that role achieve in ten months in time for RWC? Also what is Ben Whittikar's role now?

                                      The most obvious spot to upgrade is the assistants.

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                                      • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                                        No way that Cheika still stand for that is there? Surely he will walk. Surely.

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                                        @majorrage given he has life outside of rugby I think his bond with the players will keep him there. A resignation ( while justified) would be a bit of a betrayal to the lads I think.

                                        Whatever opinion people have, he's always been pretty honest and straight forward, and internal rugby culture in a team is pretty special, we've all experienced that.

                                        But it's a fucked up situation no matter how you dice it

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                                        • SiamS Siam

                                          @majorrage given he has life outside of rugby I think his bond with the players will keep him there. A resignation ( while justified) would be a bit of a betrayal to the lads I think.

                                          Whatever opinion people have, he's always been pretty honest and straight forward, and internal rugby culture in a team is pretty special, we've all experienced that.

                                          But it's a fucked up situation no matter how you dice it

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                                          @siam said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                          @majorrage given he has life outside of rugby I think his bond with the players will keep him there. A resignation ( while justified) would be a bit of a betrayal to the lads I think.

                                          This Cheika has an epic career outside the game narrative is getting a little bit silly. He has been a full time coach for over a decade I doubt you can just pick things up in an industry like that where you left off. He doth protest too much. I could only imagine how nauseating it would be if Ted mentioned he could walk into an easy six figures as headmaster at any school in the country anytime the press asked him a curly question.

                                          That said Mike clearly is a real people person so I have no doubt there are a network of contacts ready to get him back into the game.

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