Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka
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I'll take a century opening stand everytime even if it means Raval doesn't move on to 100 himself. These two openers are not such that one will dominate the scoring to an extent the other doesn't get a decent start and neother will score so fast as to obviate the blunting of the new ball
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@Gunner said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@Gunner said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@sparky we should have stayed right the hell out of here mate...
Raval gone for 74.
Most consistent cricketer I've ever seen if that makes sense. His run of 'decent' scores with few shit scores and no massive scores is pretty weird.
Weird alright. But good weird. The big score will come, no doubt about it.
As a NZ opening batsmen he is exactly what we’ve been needing since Rigor gave it away.Yeah his career trajectory is pretty fucken odd.
I mean, what benefits a team more.....scores of 40, 40, 30, 30 or 70, 0, 70, 0 or 140, 0, 0, 0 ?
( Geoffrey Boycott voice )
Crickets a funny game....
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@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@Gunner said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@Gunner said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@sparky we should have stayed right the hell out of here mate...
Raval gone for 74.
Most consistent cricketer I've ever seen if that makes sense. His run of 'decent' scores with few shit scores and no massive scores is pretty weird.
Weird alright. But good weird. The big score will come, no doubt about it.
As a NZ opening batsmen he is exactly what we’ve been needing since Rigor gave it away.Yeah his career trajectory is pretty fucken odd.
I mean, what benefits a team more.....scores of 40, 40, 30, 30 or 70, 0, 70, 0 or 140, 0, 0, 0 ?
( Geoffrey Boycott voice )
Crickets a funny game....
For an opener I'd take 40 every go. Especially when he takes about 80 to 100 balls to do it
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@SynicBast I wonder if Kane is as surprised as me, when he gets out!
Raval had had a pretty lean trot in the past 12 months - after the first innings he was averaging 18 in that period - got that up to 23 now - but, he might have needed a score.
Hamish Rutherford has been having a decent time with the bat and might have been starting to put a bit of pressure on.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@SynicBast I wonder if Kane is as surprised as me, when he gets out!
Raval had had a pretty lean trot in the past 12 months - after the first innings he was averaging 18 in that period - got that up to 23 now - but, he might have needed a score.
Hamish Rutherford has been having a decent time with the bat and might have been starting to put a bit of pressure on.
Hamish Rutherford isn't a test opener - he's never been able to demonstrate consistency as an opener, for all Jeet doesn't get humongous scores he is doing the primary job as an opener - weathering the new ball and getting some runs
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@SynicBast For the first year of his test career Jeet certainly did.
For the second year he didn't.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@SynicBast I wonder if Kane is as surprised as me, when he gets out!
Raval had had a pretty lean trot in the past 12 months - after the first innings he was averaging 18 in that period - got that up to 23 now - but, he might have needed a score.
Hamish Rutherford has been having a decent time with the bat and might have been starting to put a bit of pressure on.
Don't think he's in danger. I'm comfortable with what he's producing. He's not Bradman but averaging mid 30s is pretty dependable for a NZ opener.
WRT Rutherford what has his form been like? Is it that compelling?
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@Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@booboo Jeet has relieved some pressure by getting a decent score today.
As above, prior to today Jeet had had seven single figure scores in his previous twelve test innings.
He's on my watch list, along with Colin.
Fair enough in both cases. But who are the replacements, and how compelling us the argument for them?
Rutherford for Jeet. What's he delivered in domestic cricket? His previous test form post his debut ton was not great, so to be realistically looking for a recall he needs to be irrepressible at domestic level.
As for Col. Again I expect more from him, but with Neesham out (recalled to ODIs), and Anderson similarly crocked, who is next on the list, and are they capable of better?
(I need to try and follow more Plunket Shield ... )
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@booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
(I need to try and follow more Plunket Shield ... )
#Me too!
Actually, with a bit of research, I see that Will Young opened the batting for NZ A vs India A with Rutherford - and Will is in the squad for this series against Sri Lanka - so doubtless above Hamish in the pecking order (both of them made hundreds against India). Also, perhaps indicative that both Latham and Raval were on lean runs going into this Sri Lankan series and not completely secure.
For Colin - well, Santner is back playing - he and Matt Henry could come in for Colin and Ajaz Patel. If Colin's not scoring runs then that strengthens the batting and the seam bowling, while probably weakening the spin bowling. But, on NZ pitches that might not matter. Or, as you point out - Neesham has found some form.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
(I need to try and follow more Plunket Shield ... )
#Me too!
Actually, with a bit of research, I see that Will Young opened the batting for NZ A vs India A with Rutherford - and Will is in the squad for this series against Sri Lanka - so doubtless above Hamish in the pecking order (both of them made hundreds against India). Also, perhaps indicative that both Latham and Raval were on lean runs going into this Sri Lankan series and not completely secure.
For Colin - well, Santner is back playing - he and Matt Henry could come in for Colin and Ajaz Patel. If Colin's not scoring runs then that strengthens the batting and the seam bowling, while probably weakening the spin bowling. But, on NZ pitches that might not matter. Or, as you point out - Neesham has found some form.
Ah, forgot Santner. Was wondering if Ish's batting was good enough to be better than Col in current form, and thinking that Henry could come in for Ajaz as well.
Decided no, but Santner/Henry could work.
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So has Tom Latham done enough yet to sneak past Rigor Richardson on New Zealand's pantheon of openers?
Scored more runs at a faster rate, and more (8 vs 4) and bigger hundreds.
Still a lower average (44 vs 41) and Rigor has still faced 1000 balls more than Tom.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
So has Tom Latham done enough yet to sneak past Rigor Richardson on New Zealand's pantheon of openers?
Scored more runs at a faster rate, and more (8 vs 4) and bigger hundreds.
Still a lower average (44 vs 41) and Rigor has still faced 1000 balls more than Tom.
Interesting thought.
He may well have done and his name might crop up in some future all time teams.
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@Godder said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@Chris-B Probably not yet, but if he gets his average up, yes.
Lead of 400 at lunch, must be due to declare.
I reckon they will a few overs before end of play today. Remember there's still shitloads of time left...
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@Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
So has Tom Latham done enough yet to sneak past Rigor Richardson on New Zealand's pantheon of openers?
Scored more runs at a faster rate, and more (8 vs 4) and bigger hundreds.
Still a lower average (44 vs 41) and Rigor has still faced 1000 balls more than Tom.
Still not sold on Latham. He scores large against Sri Lanka, Zimbots, and the Bangas, which pads his average nicely. Against the rest he is rather average.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
Rigor has still faced 1000 balls more than Tom.
114 balls faced vs 86 balls faced per inning - the better part of five overs of shine more off that ball is a big deal. Both loaded up against the minnows and mid tier nations and didn't post big scores against the very best teams.
The most outstanding aspect of Rig's batting is that he always showed mental fortitude and application during a period when for the rest of the team it often appeared optional.
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