Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka
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@Cyclops said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
Has Neesham sorted his bowling action during his sabbatical? He could be the answer here. He's good enough to bat 6 in tests and with his action sorted could be a genuine all-rounder.
The selectors seem to think he's in with a shot, as they have picked him for the ODIs. I heard an interview with the convenor, and he said Neesham's bowling had improved greatly, as had Doug Bracewell's batting, so both are moving in the right direction. CDG is getting a rest because he's basically in and they need to pick a backup, from the sounds of it.
@Godder said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@Cyclops said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
Has Neesham sorted his bowling action during his sabbatical? He could be the answer here. He's good enough to bat 6 in tests and with his action sorted could be a genuine all-rounder.
The selectors seem to think he's in with a shot, as they have picked him for the ODIs. I heard an interview with the convenor, and he said Neesham's bowling had improved greatly, as had Doug Bracewell's batting, so both are moving in the right direction. CDG is getting a rest because he's basically in and they need to pick a backup, from the sounds of it.
If this is as true as they claim and have done for fucken years then Bradmans descendents better get ready to have someone usurp the title off him.
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@hydro11 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
Santner should not be automatically in the test team. He is a little better with the bat and a a little better with the ball than MMarsh (but only a little).
So you're saying he'd be locked in for the Australian team?
And MN5 is agreeing!
@Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@hydro11 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
Santner should not be automatically in the test team. He is a little better with the bat and a a little better with the ball than MMarsh (but only a little).
So you're saying he'd be locked in for the Australian team?
And MN5 is agreeing!
It was late, I must have missed that bit
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@hydro11 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
Santner should not be automatically in the test team. He is a little better with the bat and a a little better with the ball than MMarsh (but only a little).
So you're saying he'd be locked in for the Australian team?
And MN5 is agreeing!
@Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@hydro11 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
Santner should not be automatically in the test team. He is a little better with the bat and a a little better with the ball than MMarsh (but only a little).
So you're saying he'd be locked in for the Australian team?
And MN5 is agreeing!
Obviously not. Australia wouldn't play two spinners at home. They need a fast bowling all rounder as they already have a very good spinner.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@hydro11 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
Santner should not be automatically in the test team. He is a little better with the bat and a a little better with the ball than MMarsh (but only a little).
So you're saying he'd be locked in for the Australian team?
And MN5 is agreeing!
Obviously not. Australia wouldn't play two spinners at home. They need a fast bowling all rounder as they already have a very good spinner.
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@Godder said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@Cyclops said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
Has Neesham sorted his bowling action during his sabbatical? He could be the answer here. He's good enough to bat 6 in tests and with his action sorted could be a genuine all-rounder.
The selectors seem to think he's in with a shot, as they have picked him for the ODIs. I heard an interview with the convenor, and he said Neesham's bowling had improved greatly, as had Doug Bracewell's batting, so both are moving in the right direction. CDG is getting a rest because he's basically in and they need to pick a backup, from the sounds of it.
If this is as true as they claim and have done for fucken years then Bradmans descendents better get ready to have someone usurp the title off him.
@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@Godder said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@Cyclops said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
Has Neesham sorted his bowling action during his sabbatical? He could be the answer here. He's good enough to bat 6 in tests and with his action sorted could be a genuine all-rounder.
The selectors seem to think he's in with a shot, as they have picked him for the ODIs. I heard an interview with the convenor, and he said Neesham's bowling had improved greatly, as had Doug Bracewell's batting, so both are moving in the right direction. CDG is getting a rest because he's basically in and they need to pick a backup, from the sounds of it.
If this is as true as they claim and have done for fucken years then Bradmans descendents better get ready to have someone usurp the title off him.
Sadly, both of them have probably left their runs a bit late... Being behind CDG in the pecking order suggests a low ceiling...
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@Godder said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@Cyclops said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
Has Neesham sorted his bowling action during his sabbatical? He could be the answer here. He's good enough to bat 6 in tests and with his action sorted could be a genuine all-rounder.
The selectors seem to think he's in with a shot, as they have picked him for the ODIs. I heard an interview with the convenor, and he said Neesham's bowling had improved greatly, as had Doug Bracewell's batting, so both are moving in the right direction. CDG is getting a rest because he's basically in and they need to pick a backup, from the sounds of it.
If this is as true as they claim and have done for fucken years then Bradmans descendents better get ready to have someone usurp the title off him.
@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@Godder said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@Cyclops said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
Has Neesham sorted his bowling action during his sabbatical? He could be the answer here. He's good enough to bat 6 in tests and with his action sorted could be a genuine all-rounder.
The selectors seem to think he's in with a shot, as they have picked him for the ODIs. I heard an interview with the convenor, and he said Neesham's bowling had improved greatly, as had Doug Bracewell's batting, so both are moving in the right direction. CDG is getting a rest because he's basically in and they need to pick a backup, from the sounds of it.
If this is as true as they claim and have done for fucken years then Bradmans descendents better get ready to have someone usurp the title off him.
Well Dougie averaged 23 in the Ford Trophy, with a high score of 42 - so I'm guessing Don's grandkids haven't lost complete control of their bowels.
Neesham did pretty well though - averaged 63 with two hundreds and three fifties plus 13 wickets @ 32.
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@hydro11 Why not?
Lyon has the most wickets in this series - and Mitch was just there to roll his arm over while the quicks had a rest.
What they really need is a number 6!
@Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@hydro11 Why not?
Lyon has the most wickets in this series - and Mitch was just there to roll his arm over while the quicks had a rest.
What they really need is a number 6!
CDG is a better batsman that Santner, so you would play him.
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@hydro11 Why not?
Lyon has the most wickets in this series - and Mitch was just there to roll his arm over while the quicks had a rest.
What they really need is a number 6!
@Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@hydro11 Why not?
Lyon has the most wickets in this series - and Mitch was just there to roll his arm over while the quicks had a rest.
What they really need is a number 6!
@Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@hydro11 Why not?
Lyon has the most wickets in this series - and Mitch was just there to roll his arm over while the quicks had a rest.
What they really need is a number 6!
What they really need is a number 1-6
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We're number 3!
We're number 3! -
had we won the first test, as we really should have, we would have been #2.
which is about right i reckon, I'm a little giddy at what this unit has achieved. Imagine if we actually played test cricket?
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had we won the first test, as we really should have, we would have been #2.
which is about right i reckon, I'm a little giddy at what this unit has achieved. Imagine if we actually played test cricket?
@mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
had we won the first test, as we really should have, we would have been #2.
which is about right i reckon, I'm a little giddy at what this unit has achieved. Imagine if we actually played test cricket?
I know ranking points are corrected for games played but it was still depressing to see that the teams ranked above us all have played almost twice as many games in the ranking period.
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@mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
had we won the first test, as we really should have, we would have been #2.
which is about right i reckon, I'm a little giddy at what this unit has achieved. Imagine if we actually played test cricket?
I know ranking points are corrected for games played but it was still depressing to see that the teams ranked above us all have played almost twice as many games in the ranking period.
@Cyclops said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
had we won the first test, as we really should have, we would have been #2.
which is about right i reckon, I'm a little giddy at what this unit has achieved. Imagine if we actually played test cricket?
I know ranking points are corrected for games played but it was still depressing to see that the teams ranked above us all have played almost twice as many games in the ranking period.
yep. same every year. Despite our achievements, we are not a TV ratings pull, so we don't get tours. Simple.
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I think the respective careers of Alasdair Cook and Ross Taylor indicate where NZ are very nicely. Same age, pretty much the same ability yet Cook managed 161 tests while Rossco is 90 and counting..
@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
I think the respective careers of Alasdair Cook and Ross Taylor indicate where NZ are very nicely. Same age, pretty much the same ability yet Cook managed 161 tests while Rossco is 90 and counting..
It's not as though Taylor has been twiddling his thumbs for the reminder of that time - we are usually playing ODIs where he will hopefully retire with the most ODI centuries by a non sub-continental player outside Ponting.
Taylor (hopefully, probably) will play another 4 years - at least in a single format. Cook punted ODIs and T20 early to focus on test cricket but ultimately it ate him alive psychologically and he burnt out. For a guy like Taylor playing different formats must help massively because whenever his form dips too much in one format he is onto another format and is able to find his way into form again. In a weird way losing the captaincy early may have prolonged his career too.
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@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
I think the respective careers of Alasdair Cook and Ross Taylor indicate where NZ are very nicely. Same age, pretty much the same ability yet Cook managed 161 tests while Rossco is 90 and counting..
It's not as though Taylor has been twiddling his thumbs for the reminder of that time - we are usually playing ODIs where he will hopefully retire with the most ODI centuries by a non sub-continental player outside Ponting.
Taylor (hopefully, probably) will play another 4 years - at least in a single format. Cook punted ODIs and T20 early to focus on test cricket but ultimately it ate him alive psychologically and he burnt out. For a guy like Taylor playing different formats must help massively because whenever his form dips too much in one format he is onto another format and is able to find his way into form again. In a weird way losing the captaincy early may have prolonged his career too.
@rotated said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
I think the respective careers of Alasdair Cook and Ross Taylor indicate where NZ are very nicely. Same age, pretty much the same ability yet Cook managed 161 tests while Rossco is 90 and counting..
It's not as though Taylor has been twiddling his thumbs for the reminder of that time - we are usually playing ODIs where he will hopefully retire with the most ODI centuries by a non sub-continental player outside Ponting.
Taylor (hopefully, probably) will play another 4 years - at least in a single format. Cook punted ODIs and T20 early to focus on test cricket but ultimately it ate him alive psychologically and he burnt out. For a guy like Taylor playing different formats must help massively because whenever his form dips too much in one format he is onto another format and is able to find his way into form again. In a weird way losing the captaincy early may have prolonged his career too.
Agree with all of this and great post but how many tests has Taylor missed in his career ( I'm assuming the odd one for injury ? )
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@rotated said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
I think the respective careers of Alasdair Cook and Ross Taylor indicate where NZ are very nicely. Same age, pretty much the same ability yet Cook managed 161 tests while Rossco is 90 and counting..
It's not as though Taylor has been twiddling his thumbs for the reminder of that time - we are usually playing ODIs where he will hopefully retire with the most ODI centuries by a non sub-continental player outside Ponting.
Taylor (hopefully, probably) will play another 4 years - at least in a single format. Cook punted ODIs and T20 early to focus on test cricket but ultimately it ate him alive psychologically and he burnt out. For a guy like Taylor playing different formats must help massively because whenever his form dips too much in one format he is onto another format and is able to find his way into form again. In a weird way losing the captaincy early may have prolonged his career too.
Agree with all of this and great post but how many tests has Taylor missed in his career ( I'm assuming the odd one for injury ? )
@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@rotated said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
I think the respective careers of Alasdair Cook and Ross Taylor indicate where NZ are very nicely. Same age, pretty much the same ability yet Cook managed 161 tests while Rossco is 90 and counting..
It's not as though Taylor has been twiddling his thumbs for the reminder of that time - we are usually playing ODIs where he will hopefully retire with the most ODI centuries by a non sub-continental player outside Ponting.
Taylor (hopefully, probably) will play another 4 years - at least in a single format. Cook punted ODIs and T20 early to focus on test cricket but ultimately it ate him alive psychologically and he burnt out. For a guy like Taylor playing different formats must help massively because whenever his form dips too much in one format he is onto another format and is able to find his way into form again. In a weird way losing the captaincy early may have prolonged his career too.
Agree with all of this and great post but how many tests has Taylor missed in his career ( I'm assuming the odd one for injury ? )
Statsguru says he has missed 9 tests of the 90 since his debut, with two of those being the SA tour immediately after after the captaincy.
Easily could have nabbed a few caps a season prior to his debut, but they rightly (for once) held off blooding a promising batsman too early him while persisting with Sinclair, How, Marshall etc.
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@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@rotated said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
I think the respective careers of Alasdair Cook and Ross Taylor indicate where NZ are very nicely. Same age, pretty much the same ability yet Cook managed 161 tests while Rossco is 90 and counting..
It's not as though Taylor has been twiddling his thumbs for the reminder of that time - we are usually playing ODIs where he will hopefully retire with the most ODI centuries by a non sub-continental player outside Ponting.
Taylor (hopefully, probably) will play another 4 years - at least in a single format. Cook punted ODIs and T20 early to focus on test cricket but ultimately it ate him alive psychologically and he burnt out. For a guy like Taylor playing different formats must help massively because whenever his form dips too much in one format he is onto another format and is able to find his way into form again. In a weird way losing the captaincy early may have prolonged his career too.
Agree with all of this and great post but how many tests has Taylor missed in his career ( I'm assuming the odd one for injury ? )
Statsguru says he has missed 9 tests of the 90 since his debut, with two of those being the SA tour immediately after after the captaincy.
Easily could have nabbed a few caps a season prior to his debut, but they rightly (for once) held off blooding a promising batsman too early him while persisting with Sinclair, How, Marshall etc.
@rotated said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@rotated said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
@MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:
I think the respective careers of Alasdair Cook and Ross Taylor indicate where NZ are very nicely. Same age, pretty much the same ability yet Cook managed 161 tests while Rossco is 90 and counting..
It's not as though Taylor has been twiddling his thumbs for the reminder of that time - we are usually playing ODIs where he will hopefully retire with the most ODI centuries by a non sub-continental player outside Ponting.
Taylor (hopefully, probably) will play another 4 years - at least in a single format. Cook punted ODIs and T20 early to focus on test cricket but ultimately it ate him alive psychologically and he burnt out. For a guy like Taylor playing different formats must help massively because whenever his form dips too much in one format he is onto another format and is able to find his way into form again. In a weird way losing the captaincy early may have prolonged his career too.
Agree with all of this and great post but how many tests has Taylor missed in his career ( I'm assuming the odd one for injury ? )
Statsguru says he has missed 9 tests of the 90 since his debut, with two of those being the SA tour immediately after after the captaincy.
Easily could have nabbed a few caps a season prior to his debut, but they rightly (for once) held off blooding a promising batsman too early him while persisting with Sinclair, How, Marshall etc.
Cool so my point of him missing fuck all is justified.
Geez old mate Sinclair had a weird test career.
