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Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka

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  • boobooB Offline
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    #529

    Note to Tim Fucking Southee.

    The Fucking Defintion of Fucking Insanity is Fucking Doing the Same Fucking Thing Over and Fucking Over and expecting a different Fucking result you Fucking DUMB fluffybunny.

    And YES note the Fucking Capital Letters you FUCKING IDIOT.

    4, four, FOUR! Fucking sixes off full Fucking tosses before you worked it out you FUCKING RETARD.

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      Perera looks bloody chuffed with himself and so he should after that knock and nearly winning the game on his own.

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        I have been a Southee fan for a while, but I reckon he's finished in limited overs cricket. Rubbish bowling from our top line bowler.

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          I have been a Southee fan for a while, but I reckon he's finished in limited overs cricket. Rubbish bowling from our top line bowler.

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          @Damo that’s just stupid. It’s his first game of one day cricket this season. These are the games where you want bowlers trying to bowl length balls in pressure situations.

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            @Damo that’s just stupid. It’s his first game of one day cricket this season. These are the games where you want bowlers trying to bowl length balls in pressure situations.

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            @kev said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

            @Damo that’s just stupid. It’s his first game of one day cricket this season. These are the games where you want bowlers trying to bowl length balls in pressure situations.

            And keep trying them when the opposition is eating them for breakfast?

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              The problem with attempting to bowl yorkers is that it's a fine margin between yorkers and half-volleys.

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                @kev said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                @Damo that’s just stupid. It’s his first game of one day cricket this season. These are the games where you want bowlers trying to bowl length balls in pressure situations.

                And keep trying them when the opposition is eating them for breakfast?

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                @booboo it’s about execution not the strategy. They were trying to bowl wide yorkers. Practise for the World Cup - all of our bowlers got done at the end because they missed but you want them to go through that experience.

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                  The problem with attempting to bowl yorkers is that it's a fine margin between yorkers and half-volleys.

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                    140 off 74 balls is a ridiculously good innings.

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                    • GodderG Godder

                      The problem with attempting to bowl yorkers is that it's a fine margin between yorkers and half-volleys.

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                      @Godder that's like excusing hookers who can't throw into a lineout.

                      The only plausible answer is:

                      Practice till you fucking can! It's your job, what you're paid well to do!

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                      • SiamS Siam

                        @Godder that's like excusing hookers who can't throw into a lineout.

                        The only plausible answer is:

                        Practice till you fucking can! It's your job, what you're paid well to do!

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                        @Siam said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                        @Godder that's like excusing hookers who can't throw into a lineout.

                        The only plausible answer is:

                        Practice till you fucking can! It's your job, what you're paid well to do!

                        Or halfbacks who can't pass or commentate

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                        • K kev

                          @Damo that’s just stupid. It’s his first game of one day cricket this season. These are the games where you want bowlers trying to bowl length balls in pressure situations.

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                          @kev said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                          @Damo that’s just stupid. It’s his first game of one day cricket this season. These are the games where you want bowlers trying to bowl length balls in pressure situations.

                          If this was a one off then that would be a reasonable comment.

                          However he's been rubbish in ODI's for the last couple of seasons now. He doesn't take wickets consistently at the top of the innings, and he doesn't bowl well at the death.

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                          • SiamS Siam

                            @Godder that's like excusing hookers who can't throw into a lineout.

                            The only plausible answer is:

                            Practice till you fucking can! It's your job, what you're paid well to do!

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                            @Siam If it were that easy, everyone would do it, but very bowlers can drop the ball on the penny every ball, and even those who can get mauled by batsmen who move out of their ground a little, giving them the ability to move forward or back as the ball is being bowled, changing the length to a full toss or half volley.

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                              @Siam If it were that easy, everyone would do it, but very bowlers can drop the ball on the penny every ball, and even those who can get mauled by batsmen who move out of their ground a little, giving them the ability to move forward or back as the ball is being bowled, changing the length to a full toss or half volley.

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                              @Godder 4 identical full tosses all hit for 6

                              And no bowler can land it on a penny every ball so that's a pointless standard

                              We're talking about achievable skill acquisition, difficult yes, but being reliably able to bowl a yorker has proven to be a handy tool of the profession

                              Southee has to do better than that

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                                @kev said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                                @Damo that’s just stupid. It’s his first game of one day cricket this season. These are the games where you want bowlers trying to bowl length balls in pressure situations.

                                If this was a one off then that would be a reasonable comment.

                                However he's been rubbish in ODI's for the last couple of seasons now. He doesn't take wickets consistently at the top of the innings, and he doesn't bowl well at the death.

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                                @Damo said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                                @kev said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                                @Damo that’s just stupid. It’s his first game of one day cricket this season. These are the games where you want bowlers trying to bowl length balls in pressure situations.

                                If this was a one off then that would be a reasonable comment.

                                However he's been rubbish in ODI's for the last couple of seasons now. He doesn't take wickets consistently at the top of the innings, and he doesn't bowl well at the death.

                                Interesting to see his performances in chart form. Looks fairly consistent at first glance but avg has crept up from 30 to 35 and the wicket taking chart has a lot of gaps since 2015 with lower counts as well.

                                http://www.howstat.com/cricket/Statistics/Players/PlayerBowlGraph.asp?PlayerID=3542&c=ODI

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                                  @Godder 4 identical full tosses all hit for 6

                                  And no bowler can land it on a penny every ball so that's a pointless standard

                                  We're talking about achievable skill acquisition, difficult yes, but being reliably able to bowl a yorker has proven to be a handy tool of the profession

                                  Southee has to do better than that

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                                  @Siam So achievable that almost no other bowlers from any country can do it or have ever been able to do it? What is it about reliably bowling yorkers that isn't dropping it on a penny? Yorkers have to be of very specific line and length to be useful, and anything much outside that is prone to being smacked or called wide - the margin for error is very small. Also, as noted, batsmen can change the line and length by moving as the ball is being bowled, and again, the margins are small - how does that factor into your thinking?

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                                    Malinga didnt seem to have any problems bowling yorkers consistently yesterday, although he did have a few problems in the first game.

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                                      Malinga didnt seem to have any problems bowling yorkers consistently yesterday, although he did have a few problems in the first game.

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                                      @LABCAT said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                                      Malinga didnt seem to have any problems bowling yorkers consistently yesterday, although he did have a few problems in the first game.

                                      Timmy was reliably landing those four identical full tosses on a penny that was about 4 metres behind the stumps, so a penny that's actually on the pitch should be a piece of piss for him!

                                      Unfortunately, Perera's tactic of throwing a handful of pennies into the crowd, on his way out to bat, got Tim confused! 🙂

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                                        What was most concerning is our inability to change tactics when they clearly were not working. Might be we were practicing something for the WC, but constantly putting the ball full was just bowling to Perera's strengths.

                                        Also, @Chris-B has mentioned it already, but without a genuine pace option our seam attack is very same-same, particularly at the death. A bit of express pace with some short stuff tickling the ribs would have gone a long way last night.

                                        Good to see our batsmen scoring some runs, but I don't think we can expect the same quantity of runs against better attacks, so we are going to need smarter cricket from our bowlers.

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                                          In saying that, we wouldn't be having this discussion if we just took even half our chances in the field...

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