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  • DuluthD Duluth

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/109563081/john-hart-leads-fundamental-change-at-blues-its-about-making-us-great-again

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    @Duluth said in Blues 2019 - (New Head Coach):

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/109563081/john-hart-leads-fundamental-change-at-blues-its-about-making-us-great-again

    John Hart just gave me a wee chubbie. Good man manager, not afraid to call a spade a spade adn address poor performance. Outstanding.

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      @Duluth said in Blues 2019 - (New Head Coach):

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/109563081/john-hart-leads-fundamental-change-at-blues-its-about-making-us-great-again

      John Hart just gave me a wee chubbie. Good man manager, not afraid to call a spade a spade adn address poor performance. Outstanding.

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      @nzzp Has he addressed his poor performance when he played Cullen at 13 and Wilson at 15. :angry_face_with_horns:

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @nzzp Has he addressed his poor performance when he played Cullen at 13 and Wilson at 15. :angry_face_with_horns:

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        @Nepia In 1999, it should have been Umaga 13, Wilson 14, Cullen 15. Umaga's performance in that semi final was really, really poor. But I suspect lack of power in the forwards and weak morale in the squad were more fundamental problems.

        Tana should be fine as an Assistant Coach. Finally John Hart has selected him in the right position.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @nzzp Has he addressed his poor performance when he played Cullen at 13 and Wilson at 15. :angry_face_with_horns:

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          @Nepia said in Blues 2019 - (New Head Coach):

          @nzzp Has he addressed his poor performance when he played Cullen at 13 and Wilson at 15. :angry_face_with_horns:

          Not holding a grudge for too long, eh 🙂

          Look, I'd have spat on his horse with the next guy at the time, but right now his business and governance experience is what the franchise needs. It's great to see some old heads coming back and being listened to... in this case in the back office rather than actively coaching.

          Also, Mark Carter. FFS.

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            John Hart had a similar role at the Warriors from ~2005-2011 so yeah I’ll believe it when I see it.

            For all the talk about culture change the club still seems infatuated with ex-ABs (or coaches in this case) and very much behind the times.

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            • rotatedR rotated

              John Hart had a similar role at the Warriors from ~2005-2011 so yeah I’ll believe it when I see it.

              For all the talk about culture change the club still seems infatuated with ex-ABs (or coaches in this case) and very much behind the times.

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              @rotated said in Blues 2019 - (New Head Coach):

              the club still seems infatuated with ex-ABs (or coaches in this case)

              Not the only ones though. Mauger, Brown, Blackadder, Robertson, Hammett, Deans, many more I'm sure.

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              • rotatedR rotated

                John Hart had a similar role at the Warriors from ~2005-2011 so yeah I’ll believe it when I see it.

                For all the talk about culture change the club still seems infatuated with ex-ABs (or coaches in this case) and very much behind the times.

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                @rotated NZ Rugby has a fast track for ex players.

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                • rotatedR rotated

                  John Hart had a similar role at the Warriors from ~2005-2011 so yeah I’ll believe it when I see it.

                  For all the talk about culture change the club still seems infatuated with ex-ABs (or coaches in this case) and very much behind the times.

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                  @rotated wasnt the whole point that they needed more rugby expertise on the board which is why Hart was brought in?

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @rotated NZ Rugby has a fast track for ex players.

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                    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019 - (New Head Coach):

                    @rotated NZ Rugby has a fast track for ex players.

                    They do and it's a poor policy if it extends to Super Rugby head coaching positions (which I don't believe it does).

                    It's clear from the article and previous moves the NZRU have been behind they want an ex-AB to step in and sprinkle Crusader-dust on the team... which has worked well at the Hurricanes, Warratahs, Wallabies, Cardiff...

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                      From Instagram, Harrison Groundwater, Thomas Aoake, Evan Olmstead, Mike Tamoaieta, Brad McNaughton, and Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa are still training with the team.

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                        From Instagram, Harrison Groundwater, Thomas Aoake, Evan Olmstead, Mike Tamoaieta, Brad McNaughton, and Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa are still training with the team.

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                        @Tim who who who who and who?

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                        • Y Yeahtheboys

                          @Tim who who who who and who?

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                          @Yeahtheboys said in Blues 2019 - (New Head Coach):

                          @Tim who who who who and who?

                          You must know who Olmstead is - he's the Super rugby Akira.

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                            Matich is there too.

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                              Matich is there too.

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                              @Tim I think @Steven-Harris mentioned before Xmas he had signed an injury cover contract??

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                                Who's the ginger beard guy in headgear in the last picture? Danny Drake?

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                                  Who's the ginger beard guy in headgear in the last picture? Danny Drake?

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                                  @Tim Isn't that Olmstead?

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    @Tim Isn't that Olmstead?

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                                    @Duluth No headgear in the earlier shot. Might have put some on though.

                                    EDIT: Same taping around the wrists, so probably him.

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                                      This was mentioned in Blues newsletter to fans

                                      The first day saw the players straight into testing after two weeks away from team training. Speed, strength and a Bronco Test for fitness were all on the cards with a new Club record set by Jonathan Ruru in the Bronco.
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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        This was mentioned in Blues newsletter to fans

                                        The first day saw the players straight into testing after two weeks away from team training. Speed, strength and a Bronco Test for fitness were all on the cards with a new Club record set by Jonathan Ruru in the Bronco.
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                                        @KiwiMurph did it say the time?

                                        IIRC the previous Blues record (from 2017) was a second or so faster than the AB one (at that time) which was held by Andy Ellis (who had obviously held it for a while)

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @KiwiMurph did it say the time?

                                          IIRC the previous Blues record (from 2017) was a second or so faster than the AB one (at that time) which was held by Andy Ellis (who had obviously held it for a while)

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                                          @taniwharugby It didn't say the time. It is an interesting development with Ruru coming off a strong M10 Cup and Pulu probably in his last year and with a different coach now doing the selections....

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