50 Years of Star Trek - RIP
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@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
What a mess.
No reason you couldn’t make an awesome Star Trek film for 80 million. It doesn’t need Star Wars like space battles every five minutes.
Write a good story, and make the brand stand out instead of copying what Disney is doing.
The producers should sit down and watch Wrath of Khan
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@Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
@Kirwan It sounds like the new Picard show will replace Discovery, but it will have the same convoluted licensing agreements dictating content ...
That sounds like wishful thinking on your part. Everything I’ve heard about the Picard show so far doesn’t scream marquee Trek show. They are trying something new there, I’m expecting a small quirky show.
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@canefan said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
What a mess.
No reason you couldn’t make an awesome Star Trek film for 80 million. It doesn’t need Star Wars like space battles every five minutes.
Write a good story, and make the brand stand out instead of copying what Disney is doing.
The producers should sit down and watch Wrath of Khan
Or even the voyage home. Not effects heavy, simple story, well told.
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The new Star Trek has not grabbed me. For now, I will stick with The Orville, while waiting for the new series of Lost In Space for my space-fixes
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@Stockcar86 said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
The new Star Trek has not grabbed me. For now, I will stick with The Orville, while waiting for the new series of Lost In Space for my space-fixes
Have been really enjoying the Orville. Very TNG.
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Ok, I’ll take a look.
First Discovery spin off announced, Star Trek Blackops (untitled so far) with Michel Yeoh. Stories about section 31.
I thought she was good, in both parts. Her, and the new Pike, I like as they are mature instead of having kids running around.
That’s the main thing missing from the casting compared to TOS and TNG is actors that look like adults. That look like they could be in charge of starships. Was particularly bad for Kelvin Spock.
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Took a look, it was interesting. Lots of wishful thinking and guessing from rumours.
It’s not news that Discovery could get cancelled if the ratings are poor. That’s a given for any show, especially an expensive one. So it’s a bit of a stretch to say Picard is being lined up to replace Discovery.
Picard could end up being very divisive as well, particularly if the replace the Prime canon and do a character based study type show (for example).
That said, I agreed with the criticisms about how identify politics were over used (something I’m having to suffer through with Doctor Who as well). One small beacon of hope there is Pike seems to be a more traditional character, particularly from what I gleaned from the actor interview.
TOS style uniforms look so much better than the blue jumpsuits that I hope they switch at some point too.
Don’t agree the main character is a Mary Sue. She makes too many mistakes for that to be true.
I hope we end up with several Star Trek shows that cater to different tastes. And I really hope the business interests don’t end up nerfing the old canon.
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@Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
Kind of ironic that the "woke" Star Trek producers are making a series where a space nazi is the hero. At least she's not a white man though ...
Woke showrunners got fired didn’t they? (if I understood the tortuous history right)
It is an odd choice, she’d have to be an anti-hero right? Or do you think they shoe horn in a redemptive arc for the character that murdered thousands if not millions of people?
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@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
redemptive arc
That might work better if her empire had been destroyed, as happened to Nazi Germany, and she'd seen the error of her ways (maybe they'll write that in later). They'll have to do something to keep her show going for several seasons though - not sure I'm up for the Sopranos in space.
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@Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
redemptive arc
That might work better if her empire had been destroyed, as happened to Nazi Germany, and she'd seen the error of her ways (maybe they'll write that in later). They'll have to do something to keep her show going for several seasons though - not sure I'm up for the Sopranos in space.
If it’s section 31, they could go a secret war path.
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Some NSFW screencaps for Marina Sirtis fans:
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@Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
Some NSFW screencaps for Marina Sirtis fans:
Star Wars doesn't have to resort to titty shots of it's characters to try and be better
