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6 Nations 2019

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  • MN5M MN5

    @Bones said in 6 Nations 2019:

    @MN5 so you'd prefer them to not be there just to really cement Scotland's shitness?

    7th in the world fluffybunny and don't you forget it !

    If being ranked in the top ten in a World tournament is shit then Rugby is about as much of a World Game as loigue.

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    @MN5 well duh, Lebanon is in the league world cup.

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      @MN5 well duh, Lebanon is in the league world cup.

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      @Bones said in 6 Nations 2019:

      @MN5 well duh, Lebanon is in the league world cup.

      They're great at offensive bombs.

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      • Y Yeahtheboys

        No Kieran Marmion? Is a win against all blacks while starting not good enough?

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        @Yeahtheboys said in 6 Nations 2019:

        No Kieran Marmion? Is a win against all blacks while starting not good enough?

        Who? Caolin Blade has been in better form for Connacht. Oh and Marmion has an injury as well....

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          "England will be without wing Joe Cokanasiga, centre Ben Te’o, hooker Dylan Hartley and flanker Brad Shields for Saturday’s Six Nations opener against holders Ireland".
          That's bad luck, they will have to pick some Englishmen instead.

          England 25-man squad
          Forwards: Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs), Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons)

          Backs: Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester Tigers), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Dan Robson (Wasps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

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          • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

            "England will be without wing Joe Cokanasiga, centre Ben Te’o, hooker Dylan Hartley and flanker Brad Shields for Saturday’s Six Nations opener against holders Ireland".
            That's bad luck, they will have to pick some Englishmen instead.

            England 25-man squad
            Forwards: Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs), Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons)

            Backs: Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester Tigers), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Dan Robson (Wasps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

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            @Daffy-Jaffy said in 6 Nations 2019:

            "England will be without wing Joe Cokanasiga, centre Ben Te’o, hooker Dylan Hartley and flanker Brad Shields for Saturday’s Six Nations opener against holders Ireland".
            That's bad luck, they will have to pick some Englishmen instead.

            England 25-man squad
            Forwards: Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs), Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons)

            Backs: Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester Tigers), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Dan Robson (Wasps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

            Cheika goes for 24, Eddie 25...…

            Just name your fucking 23 FFS and stop playing silly arses

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @Daffy-Jaffy said in 6 Nations 2019:

              "England will be without wing Joe Cokanasiga, centre Ben Te’o, hooker Dylan Hartley and flanker Brad Shields for Saturday’s Six Nations opener against holders Ireland".
              That's bad luck, they will have to pick some Englishmen instead.

              England 25-man squad
              Forwards: Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs), Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons)

              Backs: Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester Tigers), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Dan Robson (Wasps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

              Cheika goes for 24, Eddie 25...…

              Just name your fucking 23 FFS and stop playing silly arses

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              @Crucial Whatever Krusty can do, Eddie can do 4.166% better.

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @Daffy-Jaffy said in 6 Nations 2019:

                "England will be without wing Joe Cokanasiga, centre Ben Te’o, hooker Dylan Hartley and flanker Brad Shields for Saturday’s Six Nations opener against holders Ireland".
                That's bad luck, they will have to pick some Englishmen instead.

                England 25-man squad
                Forwards: Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs), Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons)

                Backs: Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester Tigers), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Dan Robson (Wasps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

                Cheika goes for 24, Eddie 25...…

                Just name your fucking 23 FFS and stop playing silly arses

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                @Crucial said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @Daffy-Jaffy said in 6 Nations 2019:

                "England will be without wing Joe Cokanasiga, centre Ben Te’o, hooker Dylan Hartley and flanker Brad Shields for Saturday’s Six Nations opener against holders Ireland".
                That's bad luck, they will have to pick some Englishmen instead.

                England 25-man squad
                Forwards: Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs), Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons)

                Backs: Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester Tigers), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Dan Robson (Wasps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

                Cheika goes for 24, Eddie 25...…

                Just name your fucking 23 FFS and stop playing silly arses

                Australians, no surprises there......

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                  In a new departure for Joe Schmidt, he has announced the foreign-born players in his squad to facilitate headline writers in various foreign media:

                  NZ Media: Joey Carbery and Bundee Aki with coaches Joe Schmidt, Greg Feek
                  English media: Will Addison with coaches Andy Farrell and Simon Easterby
                  South African media: CJ Stander and Quinn Roux
                  French media: Ultan Dillane
                  Spanish media: Jordi Murphy
                  Not-born in Dublin media: Sean O'Brien, Tadgh Furlong, POM, Murray, Earls, Best, Stockdale, Henshaw, Toner, vdF, Cronin

                  Dublin-born players will be announced at the usual time tomorrow.

                  Edit: 2 more sleeps......

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                    French team to play Wales :

                    Poirot
                    Guirado
                    Atonio
                    Vahaminaa
                    Willemsee
                    Lauret
                    Uturria
                    Picamoles
                    Parra
                    Lopez
                    Huget
                    Ntamack
                    Fofana
                    Penaud
                    Medard

                    Priso
                    Marchand
                    Bamba
                    Lambey
                    Alldritt
                    Serin
                    Fickou
                    Doumayrou

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                      Interesting stats

                      WTF Scotland and France away games!

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                        England: 15 Elliot Daly, 14 Jonny May, 13 Henry Slade, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Jack Nowell, 10 Owen Farrell, 9 Ben Youngs; 1 Mako Vunipola, 2 Jamie George, 3 Kyle Sinckler, 4 Maro Itoje, 5 George Kruis, 6 Mark Wilson, 7 Tom Curry, 8 Billy Vunipola.

                        Replacements: 16 Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17 Ellis Genge, 18 Harry Williams, 19 Courtney Lawes, 20 Nathan Hughes, 21 Dan Robson, 22 George Ford, 23 Chris Ashton.

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                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                          England: 15 Elliot Daly, 14 Jonny May, 13 Henry Slade, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Jack Nowell, 10 Owen Farrell, 9 Ben Youngs; 1 Mako Vunipola, 2 Jamie George, 3 Kyle Sinckler, 4 Maro Itoje, 5 George Kruis, 6 Mark Wilson, 7 Tom Curry, 8 Billy Vunipola.

                          Replacements: 16 Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17 Ellis Genge, 18 Harry Williams, 19 Courtney Lawes, 20 Nathan Hughes, 21 Dan Robson, 22 George Ford, 23 Chris Ashton.

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                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          England: 15 Elliot Daly, 14 Jonny May, 13 Henry Slade, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Jack Nowell, 10 Owen Farrell, 9 Ben Youngs; 1 Mako Vunipola, 2 Jamie George, 3 Kyle Sinckler, 4 Maro Itoje, 5 George Kruis, 6 Mark Wilson, 7 Tom Curry, 8 Billy Vunipola.

                          Replacements: 16 Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17 Ellis Genge, 18 Harry Williams, 19 Courtney Lawes, 20 Nathan Hughes, 21 Dan Robson, 22 George Ford, 23 Chris Ashton.

                          It will be interesting to see how Tuilagi goes at 12 and also interesting to see the duel between Murray's accurate box kicking and how Daly copes with it. Nowell in there to back him up is a plus, he was very good under the high ball in the Munster v Exeter game a couple of weeks ago. I like the look of the back row for once and whilst I would like to have seen Launchbury in the mix at lock, he has only had a couple of games coming back from injury and we have good strength in depth there.

                          All in all as good as I could have hoped for.

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                          • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                            England: 15 Elliot Daly, 14 Jonny May, 13 Henry Slade, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Jack Nowell, 10 Owen Farrell, 9 Ben Youngs; 1 Mako Vunipola, 2 Jamie George, 3 Kyle Sinckler, 4 Maro Itoje, 5 George Kruis, 6 Mark Wilson, 7 Tom Curry, 8 Billy Vunipola.

                            Replacements: 16 Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17 Ellis Genge, 18 Harry Williams, 19 Courtney Lawes, 20 Nathan Hughes, 21 Dan Robson, 22 George Ford, 23 Chris Ashton.

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                            @Daffy-Jaffy said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            England: 15 Elliot Daly, 14 Jonny May, 13 Henry Slade, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Jack Nowell, 10 Owen Farrell, 9 Ben Youngs; 1 Mako Vunipola, 2 Jamie George, 3 Kyle Sinckler, 4 Maro Itoje, 5 George Kruis, 6 Mark Wilson, 7 Tom Curry, 8 Billy Vunipola.

                            Replacements: 16 Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17 Ellis Genge, 18 Harry Williams, 19 Courtney Lawes, 20 Nathan Hughes, 21 Dan Robson, 22 George Ford, 23 Chris Ashton.

                            Interesting. Eddie is desperate to have Tuilagi on the field but to do so has to abandon his gameplan of two playmakers (Farrell/Teo or Ford/Farrell) as he also wants Slade out there. Might be getting in a tangle, might be taking a chance?
                            I don't see Tuilagi offering much at 12 but I might have it wrong. IMO he needs to be one more out to get a little space and time on the ball.

                            The talk of Brown's redemption looks to have just been talk.

                            They better hope Curry lasts the game or it will be back to a backrow based on size alone.

                            Will be watching this one with interest although I can't bring myself to wish a win for one team over the other and a draw would still have Eddie and Moonhead claiming a 'moral victory'

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                              Ireland

                              Backs
                              Robbie Henshaw; Keith Earls, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, Jacob Stockdale; Johnny Sexton, Conor Murray;

                              Forwards
                              Cian Healy, Rory Best (capt), Tadhg Furlong; Devin Toner, James Ryan; Peter O’Mahony, Josh van der Flier, CJ Stander.

                              Subs
                              Seán Cronin, Dave Kilcoyne, Andrew Porter, Quinn Roux, Seán O’Brien, John Cooney, Joey Carbery, Jordan Larmour.

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                                Ireland

                                Backs
                                Robbie Henshaw; Keith Earls, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, Jacob Stockdale; Johnny Sexton, Conor Murray;

                                Forwards
                                Cian Healy, Rory Best (capt), Tadhg Furlong; Devin Toner, James Ryan; Peter O’Mahony, Josh van der Flier, CJ Stander.

                                Subs
                                Seán Cronin, Dave Kilcoyne, Andrew Porter, Quinn Roux, Seán O’Brien, John Cooney, Joey Carbery, Jordan Larmour.

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                                @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                Ireland

                                Backs
                                Robbie Henshaw; Keith Earls, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, Jacob Stockdale; Johnny Sexton, Conor Murray;

                                Forwards
                                Cian Healy, Rory Best (capt), Tadhg Furlong; Devin Toner, James Ryan; Peter O’Mahony, Josh van der Flier, CJ Stander.

                                Subs
                                Seán Cronin, Dave Kilcoyne, Andrew Porter, Quinn Roux, Seán O’Brien, John Cooney, Joey Carbery, Jordan Larmour.

                                @Derm-McCrum how do you feel about Henshaw at 15? Shoehorning the quality in or a cunning plan?

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                                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                  England: 15 Elliot Daly, 14 Jonny May, 13 Henry Slade, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Jack Nowell, 10 Owen Farrell, 9 Ben Youngs; 1 Mako Vunipola, 2 Jamie George, 3 Kyle Sinckler, 4 Maro Itoje, 5 George Kruis, 6 Mark Wilson, 7 Tom Curry, 8 Billy Vunipola.

                                  Replacements: 16 Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17 Ellis Genge, 18 Harry Williams, 19 Courtney Lawes, 20 Nathan Hughes, 21 Dan Robson, 22 George Ford, 23 Chris Ashton.

                                  Interesting. Eddie is desperate to have Tuilagi on the field but to do so has to abandon his gameplan of two playmakers (Farrell/Teo or Ford/Farrell) as he also wants Slade out there. Might be getting in a tangle, might be taking a chance?
                                  I don't see Tuilagi offering much at 12 but I might have it wrong. IMO he needs to be one more out to get a little space and time on the ball.

                                  The talk of Brown's redemption looks to have just been talk.

                                  They better hope Curry lasts the game or it will be back to a backrow based on size alone.

                                  Will be watching this one with interest although I can't bring myself to wish a win for one team over the other and a draw would still have Eddie and Moonhead claiming a 'moral victory'

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                                  @Crucial isn't Slade considered a bit of a playmaker?

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                                    @Crucial isn't Slade considered a bit of a playmaker?

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                                    @Bones said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                    @Crucial isn't Slade considered a bit of a playmaker?

                                    Yeah, but his game in this side is to distribute from 13. That's a bit different to the Farrell/Teo or Ford/Farrell strategies.
                                    I agree that with his skill set and Tuilagi's better place at 13 the two should be swapped. Maybe they will anyway and this is just Eddie trying to be a smart arse.

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                                      @Crucial isn't Slade considered a bit of a playmaker?

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                                      @Bones said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      @Crucial isn't Slade considered a bit of a playmaker?

                                      Slade was initially being groomed as a 10 and he has the physical skill set for that position. I think it was his wanting to continually make THE play coupled with game management that wasn't quite up there that has led him first to 12 and then to 13. At Exeter he was wasted at 12 as Steenson made all the playmaking decisions; that might be different with Farrell at 10. Slade then found a little more freedom at13 and has really made his mark. I see him at 13 as a better double playmaker option than Ford and Farrell at 10 & 12. If you're going down that route though you need a 12 that can truck it up in traffic. Teo would be the natural fit but is injured (again) so I can see why Eddie has gone for Tuilagi there. Whether it will work or not is another matter - I suppose in extremis Tuilagi and Slade could swap?

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        Ireland

                                        Backs
                                        Robbie Henshaw; Keith Earls, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, Jacob Stockdale; Johnny Sexton, Conor Murray;

                                        Forwards
                                        Cian Healy, Rory Best (capt), Tadhg Furlong; Devin Toner, James Ryan; Peter O’Mahony, Josh van der Flier, CJ Stander.

                                        Subs
                                        Seán Cronin, Dave Kilcoyne, Andrew Porter, Quinn Roux, Seán O’Brien, John Cooney, Joey Carbery, Jordan Larmour.

                                        @Derm-McCrum how do you feel about Henshaw at 15? Shoehorning the quality in or a cunning plan?

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                                        @Crucial said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        Ireland

                                        Backs
                                        Robbie Henshaw; Keith Earls, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, Jacob Stockdale; Johnny Sexton, Conor Murray;

                                        Forwards
                                        Cian Healy, Rory Best (capt), Tadhg Furlong; Devin Toner, James Ryan; Peter O’Mahony, Josh van der Flier, CJ Stander.

                                        Subs
                                        Seán Cronin, Dave Kilcoyne, Andrew Porter, Quinn Roux, Seán O’Brien, John Cooney, Joey Carbery, Jordan Larmour.

                                        @Derm-McCrum how do you feel about Henshaw at 15? Shoehorning the quality in or a cunning plan?

                                        I’m good with it until I see him play. Played his first test there and is his original playing position with Connacht. He prefers it to midfield.

                                        He’s been training there since Oz tour and was due to get some time during Nov tests but an early injury to another player knocked the plan on its head.

                                        Could galvanize the back three a bit more. He’s a great tackler and covers a lot of ground but it’s his positioning that will be assessed most critically.

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                                          The French pack is the heaviest in rugby history : 962 kg !
                                          (Poirot - 117, Guirado 105, Atonio - 152, Vahaamina - 126, Willemsee - 129, Lauret - 103, Uturria - 112, Picamoles - 118).
                                          So plenty of power but what about its mobility ?

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