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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    I think we are seeing Stead working out how to communicate around his strategies and thinking for selection. I can see him treading carefully as he's still building his connections with the squad. But in saying that coming over all waffley doesn't really sound good in terms of him knowing wtf he's doing.

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      We’re back.
      India are chokers.
      We’re in with a real chance at the WC.

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      @ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps v India:

      We’re back.
      India are chokers.
      We’re in with a real chance at the WC.

      Has 6 drinks, puts on Marto voice
      "Bring on the World Cup!!!"

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      • N newsjunkie

        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

        @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

        Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

        and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

        Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

        The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

        Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

        Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

        Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

        mariner4lifeM Offline
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        mariner4life
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        #432

        @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

        @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

        Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

        and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

        Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

        The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

        Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

        Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

        Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

        Brian Lara says bullshit

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

          @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

          @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

          @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

          Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

          and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

          Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

          The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

          Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

          Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

          Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

          Brian Lara says bullshit

          MN5M Offline
          MN5M Offline
          MN5
          wrote on last edited by
          #433

          @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

          @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

          @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

          @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

          @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

          Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

          and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

          Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

          The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

          Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

          Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

          Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

          Brian Lara says bullshit

          Lara was second best ever in my opinion

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          • MN5M MN5

            @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

            @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

            @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

            @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

            @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

            Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

            and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

            Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

            The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

            Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

            Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

            Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

            Brian Lara says bullshit

            Lara was second best ever in my opinion

            mariner4lifeM Offline
            mariner4lifeM Offline
            mariner4life
            wrote on last edited by
            #434

            @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

            @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

            @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

            @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

            @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

            @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

            Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

            and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

            Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

            The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

            Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

            Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

            Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

            Brian Lara says bullshit

            Lara was second best ever in my opinion

            not just your opinion mate. A true genius. My 2nd favourite cricketer ever behind Sir Curtly.

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            • KiwiPieK Offline
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              #435

              I was a huge Lara fan. At his peak, he was touched by genius in my view - in contrast, Tendulkar was just very, very good.

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              • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                I was a huge Lara fan. At his peak, he was touched by genius in my view - in contrast, Tendulkar was just very, very good.

                mariner4lifeM Offline
                mariner4lifeM Offline
                mariner4life
                wrote on last edited by
                #436

                @KiwiPie said in Black Caps v India:

                I was a huge Lara fan. At his peak, he was touched by genius in my view - in contrast, Tendulkar was just very, very good.

                quoting because pretty much this.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                  @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                  @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                  Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                  and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                  Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                  The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                  Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                  Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                  Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                  Brian Lara says bullshit

                  Lara was second best ever in my opinion

                  not just your opinion mate. A true genius. My 2nd favourite cricketer ever behind Sir Curtly.

                  MN5M Offline
                  MN5M Offline
                  MN5
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #437

                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                  @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                  @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                  Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                  and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                  Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                  The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                  Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                  Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                  Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                  Brian Lara says bullshit

                  Lara was second best ever in my opinion

                  not just your opinion mate. A true genius. My 2nd favourite cricketer ever behind Sir Curtly.

                  I read an article on him, his average 52.88 is obviously brilliant, however many others have beaten it. It mentioned he only had 6 not outs ( most top order batsmen get about 30-40 ) so that stopped it getting much higher. Also mentioned how he carried his team singlehandedly for so long.

                  No one, and I mean NO ONE dealt to Warne like Lara did.

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                    @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                    @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                    @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                    Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                    and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                    Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                    The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                    Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                    Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                    Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                    Brian Lara says bullshit

                    Lara was second best ever in my opinion

                    not just your opinion mate. A true genius. My 2nd favourite cricketer ever behind Sir Curtly.

                    I read an article on him, his average 52.88 is obviously brilliant, however many others have beaten it. It mentioned he only had 6 not outs ( most top order batsmen get about 30-40 ) so that stopped it getting much higher. Also mentioned how he carried his team singlehandedly for so long.

                    No one, and I mean NO ONE dealt to Warne like Lara did.

                    mariner4lifeM Offline
                    mariner4lifeM Offline
                    mariner4life
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #438

                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                    @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                    @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                    @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                    @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                    Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                    and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                    Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                    The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                    Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                    Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                    Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                    Brian Lara says bullshit

                    Lara was second best ever in my opinion

                    not just your opinion mate. A true genius. My 2nd favourite cricketer ever behind Sir Curtly.

                    I read an article on him, his average 52.88 is obviously brilliant, however many others have beaten it. It mentioned he only had 6 not outs ( most top order batsmen get about 30-40 ) so that stopped it getting much higher. Also mentioned how he carried his team singlehandedly for so long.

                    No one, and I mean NO ONE dealt to Warne like Lara did.

                    i remember a one-dayer in Perth where he treated him like a club player.

                    The Lara cover drive is the sexiest shot i ever saw.

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                    • Chris B.C Offline
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                      Chris B.
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                      #439

                      Pace and bounce at the WACA Sir Viv - maybe you should think about a helmet?

                      "Fuck off man - my purple cap is fine!"

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                        @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                        @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                        Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                        and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                        Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                        The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                        Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                        Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                        Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                        Brian Lara says bullshit

                        Lara was second best ever in my opinion

                        not just your opinion mate. A true genius. My 2nd favourite cricketer ever behind Sir Curtly.

                        I read an article on him, his average 52.88 is obviously brilliant, however many others have beaten it. It mentioned he only had 6 not outs ( most top order batsmen get about 30-40 ) so that stopped it getting much higher. Also mentioned how he carried his team singlehandedly for so long.

                        No one, and I mean NO ONE dealt to Warne like Lara did.

                        i remember a one-dayer in Perth where he treated him like a club player.

                        The Lara cover drive is the sexiest shot i ever saw.

                        MN5M Offline
                        MN5M Offline
                        MN5
                        wrote on last edited by MN5
                        #440

                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                        @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                        @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                        Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                        and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                        Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                        The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                        Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                        Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                        Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                        Brian Lara says bullshit

                        Lara was second best ever in my opinion

                        not just your opinion mate. A true genius. My 2nd favourite cricketer ever behind Sir Curtly.

                        I read an article on him, his average 52.88 is obviously brilliant, however many others have beaten it. It mentioned he only had 6 not outs ( most top order batsmen get about 30-40 ) so that stopped it getting much higher. Also mentioned how he carried his team singlehandedly for so long.

                        No one, and I mean NO ONE dealt to Warne like Lara did.

                        i remember a one-dayer in Perth where he treated him like a club player.

                        The Lara cover drive is the sexiest shot i ever saw.

                        He made it look so easy. Better to watch than Tendulkar in my opinion.

                        He also averaged scoring the second most runs per test ever ( after you know who ) but due to the inability to get not outs the average suffered a bit ( if you can call a shade under 53 suffering )

                        I'd argue, again, second best ever...but some point out he's only third or even fourth best from the West Indies ( depending on how you view Sobers, Richards and Headley)

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          Pace and bounce at the WACA Sir Viv - maybe you should think about a helmet?

                          "Fuck off man - my purple cap is fine!"

                          MN5M Offline
                          MN5M Offline
                          MN5
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #441

                          @Chris-B said in Black Caps v India:

                          Pace and bounce at the WACA Sir Viv - maybe you should think about a helmet?

                          "Fuck off man - my purple cap is fine!"

                          I don't remember Richards too much but he's another who was even better than his stats.

                          It wouldn't be fair if he played with today's bats.

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @Chris-B said in Black Caps v India:

                            Pace and bounce at the WACA Sir Viv - maybe you should think about a helmet?

                            "Fuck off man - my purple cap is fine!"

                            I don't remember Richards too much but he's another who was even better than his stats.

                            It wouldn't be fair if he played with today's bats.

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                            Chris B.
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #442

                            @MN5 Look at some of Lawrence Rowe as well.

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @MN5 Look at some of Lawrence Rowe as well.

                              MN5M Offline
                              MN5M Offline
                              MN5
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #443

                              @Chris-B said in Black Caps v India:

                              @MN5 Look at some of Lawrence Rowe as well.

                              Richie Richardson had some awesome swagger too.

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                                @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                                Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                                and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                                Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                                The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                                Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                                Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                                Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                                Brian Lara says bullshit

                                Lara was second best ever in my opinion

                                not just your opinion mate. A true genius. My 2nd favourite cricketer ever behind Sir Curtly.

                                I read an article on him, his average 52.88 is obviously brilliant, however many others have beaten it. It mentioned he only had 6 not outs ( most top order batsmen get about 30-40 ) so that stopped it getting much higher. Also mentioned how he carried his team singlehandedly for so long.

                                No one, and I mean NO ONE dealt to Warne like Lara did.

                                i remember a one-dayer in Perth where he treated him like a club player.

                                The Lara cover drive is the sexiest shot i ever saw.

                                He made it look so easy. Better to watch than Tendulkar in my opinion.

                                He also averaged scoring the second most runs per test ever ( after you know who ) but due to the inability to get not outs the average suffered a bit ( if you can call a shade under 53 suffering )

                                I'd argue, again, second best ever...but some point out he's only third or even fourth best from the West Indies ( depending on how you view Sobers, Richards and Headley)

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                                KiwiPieK Offline
                                KiwiPie
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #444

                                @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                                @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                                Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                                and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                                Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                                The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                                Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                                Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                                Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                                Brian Lara says bullshit

                                Lara was second best ever in my opinion

                                not just your opinion mate. A true genius. My 2nd favourite cricketer ever behind Sir Curtly.

                                I read an article on him, his average 52.88 is obviously brilliant, however many others have beaten it. It mentioned he only had 6 not outs ( most top order batsmen get about 30-40 ) so that stopped it getting much higher. Also mentioned how he carried his team singlehandedly for so long.

                                No one, and I mean NO ONE dealt to Warne like Lara did.

                                i remember a one-dayer in Perth where he treated him like a club player.

                                The Lara cover drive is the sexiest shot i ever saw.

                                He made it look so easy. Better to watch than Tendulkar in my opinion.

                                He also averaged scoring the second most runs per test ever ( after you know who ) but due to the inability to get not outs the average suffered a bit ( if you can call a shade under 53 suffering )

                                I'd argue, again, second best ever...but some point out he's only third or even fourth best from the West Indies ( depending on how you view Sobers, Richards and Headley)

                                As someone who has been in the same quiz team as George Headley's grand-daughter (Ron's daughter and hence Dean's sister), George does sound like the outstanding player in the Windies of the 30s (interrupted by the war of course when he would have been at his peak) when they were short of test class players.

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                                • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                                  Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                                  and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                                  Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                                  The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                                  Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                                  Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                                  Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                                  Brian Lara says bullshit

                                  Lara was second best ever in my opinion

                                  not just your opinion mate. A true genius. My 2nd favourite cricketer ever behind Sir Curtly.

                                  I read an article on him, his average 52.88 is obviously brilliant, however many others have beaten it. It mentioned he only had 6 not outs ( most top order batsmen get about 30-40 ) so that stopped it getting much higher. Also mentioned how he carried his team singlehandedly for so long.

                                  No one, and I mean NO ONE dealt to Warne like Lara did.

                                  i remember a one-dayer in Perth where he treated him like a club player.

                                  The Lara cover drive is the sexiest shot i ever saw.

                                  He made it look so easy. Better to watch than Tendulkar in my opinion.

                                  He also averaged scoring the second most runs per test ever ( after you know who ) but due to the inability to get not outs the average suffered a bit ( if you can call a shade under 53 suffering )

                                  I'd argue, again, second best ever...but some point out he's only third or even fourth best from the West Indies ( depending on how you view Sobers, Richards and Headley)

                                  As someone who has been in the same quiz team as George Headley's grand-daughter (Ron's daughter and hence Dean's sister), George does sound like the outstanding player in the Windies of the 30s (interrupted by the war of course when he would have been at his peak) when they were short of test class players.

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                                  @KiwiPie said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                                  Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                                  and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                                  Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                                  The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                                  Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                                  Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                                  Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                                  Brian Lara says bullshit

                                  Lara was second best ever in my opinion

                                  not just your opinion mate. A true genius. My 2nd favourite cricketer ever behind Sir Curtly.

                                  I read an article on him, his average 52.88 is obviously brilliant, however many others have beaten it. It mentioned he only had 6 not outs ( most top order batsmen get about 30-40 ) so that stopped it getting much higher. Also mentioned how he carried his team singlehandedly for so long.

                                  No one, and I mean NO ONE dealt to Warne like Lara did.

                                  i remember a one-dayer in Perth where he treated him like a club player.

                                  The Lara cover drive is the sexiest shot i ever saw.

                                  He made it look so easy. Better to watch than Tendulkar in my opinion.

                                  He also averaged scoring the second most runs per test ever ( after you know who ) but due to the inability to get not outs the average suffered a bit ( if you can call a shade under 53 suffering )

                                  I'd argue, again, second best ever...but some point out he's only third or even fourth best from the West Indies ( depending on how you view Sobers, Richards and Headley)

                                  As someone who has been in the same quiz team as George Headley's grand-daughter (Ron's daughter and hence Dean's sister), George does sound like the outstanding player in the Windies of the 30s (interrupted by the war of course when he would have been at his peak) when they were short of test class players.

                                  One of the most randomly amazing posts ever but I agree with these claims.

                                  Get a load of his first class average !

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                                  • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                                    I was a huge Lara fan. At his peak, he was touched by genius in my view - in contrast, Tendulkar was just very, very good.

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                                    @KiwiPie sometimes good to use 2nd innings performances to separate the greats

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                                      I'm probably in the Lara camp as well, but the margins are pretty slim between him and the other greats from his era (or other eras).

                                      The idea that anyone is a clear second behind the Don is absurd.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                        @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                                        Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                                        and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                                        Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                                        The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                                        Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                                        Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                                        Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                                        Brian Lara says bullshit

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                                        which Brian Lara? The sulky one who shat the bed a big chunk of the times? Or the one who batted brilliantly some of the time?

                                        Until 2002 Tendulkar NEVER had a slump, pretty much dropped a century every damn series, everywhere in the world. The definition of Consistent excellence. Brian was one of my favorite batsman, and absolutely brilliant when the mood took him. His peaks were awesome, but far too many valleys separated them.

                                        But feel free to stick to your confirmation biases - I can't be bothered about arguing such history. It doesn't matter really.

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                                          which Brian Lara? The sulky one who shat the bed a big chunk of the times? Or the one who batted brilliantly some of the time?

                                          Until 2002 Tendulkar NEVER had a slump, pretty much dropped a century every damn series, everywhere in the world. The definition of Consistent excellence. Brian was one of my favorite batsman, and absolutely brilliant when the mood took him. His peaks were awesome, but far too many valleys separated them.

                                          But feel free to stick to your confirmation biases - I can't be bothered about arguing such history. It doesn't matter really.

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                                          @newsjunkie The problem with Sachin was that he almost always failed during a tight chase. Hence why I rate Lara and Kohli ahead of him. They perform when the pressure is on.

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