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6 Nations 2019

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  • nzzpN nzzp

    @Crazy-Horse said in 6 Nations 2019:

    Just saw Slade's try. He was in front of the kicker, no question. I'd be pissed if that try was awarded against the ABs.

    Really? Seemed tight but marginal to me - the foot the ball was kicked from was just in front of Slade's hindmost foot. Plenty of overlap though - I'd probably be annoyed if it was rubbed out if it was my team that scored it

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    @nzzp yeah camera angles make it pretty hard to be definate. Wonder if something is in the pipeline to help the TMO out, like superimposed lines or something.

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @Crazy-Horse said in 6 Nations 2019:

      Just saw Slade's try. He was in front of the kicker, no question. I'd be pissed if that try was awarded against the ABs.

      Really? Seemed tight but marginal to me - the foot the ball was kicked from was just in front of Slade's hindmost foot. Plenty of overlap though - I'd probably be annoyed if it was rubbed out if it was my team that scored it

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      @nzzp said in 6 Nations 2019:

      @Crazy-Horse said in 6 Nations 2019:

      Just saw Slade's try. He was in front of the kicker, no question. I'd be pissed if that try was awarded against the ABs.

      Really? Seemed tight but marginal to me - the foot the ball was kicked from was just in front of Slade's hindmost foot. Plenty of overlap though - I'd probably be annoyed if it was rubbed out if it was my team that scored it

      I tend to agree - not clear and obvious offside based on the camera angles. As @Crazy-Horse says it can't be that difficult to put some lines on the pitch. Soccer does it with offsides.

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        That first England try sure was impressive, you couldn't ask for a better start. Ireland just couldn't get any front foot ball and England minimised their own errors.

        I recall thinking I never saw a clear grounding by Healy when he went over. From the angles I saw there is an English hand under the ball the entire time. Maybe I missed something.

        It also put a smile on my face when Vunipola was named MOM, not many props get that award.

        So where does this result put Ireland on their quest for the N1 standing?

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @Crazy-Horse said in 6 Nations 2019:

          Just saw Slade's try. He was in front of the kicker, no question. I'd be pissed if that try was awarded against the ABs.

          Really? Seemed tight but marginal to me - the foot the ball was kicked from was just in front of Slade's hindmost foot. Plenty of overlap though - I'd probably be annoyed if it was rubbed out if it was my team that scored it

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          @nzzp said in 6 Nations 2019:

          @Crazy-Horse said in 6 Nations 2019:

          Just saw Slade's try. He was in front of the kicker, no question. I'd be pissed if that try was awarded against the ABs.

          Really? Seemed tight but marginal to me - the foot the ball was kicked from was just in front of Slade's hindmost foot. Plenty of overlap though - I'd probably be annoyed if it was rubbed out if it was my team that scored it

          It appears the pass preceding the kick was clearly forward and not looked at which is upsetting the Irish more I think.

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            I don't know the wording of the laws but Slade was never behind the kicker. That's the truth of it, whatever the verdict wording

            Itoje not being carded for accidentally over running the ball by 5 yards and then accidentally taking out the only catcher further illuminated the fact that rugby will forever be plagued by officiating inconsistencies.

            Fuck wasn't the poms linespeed and defence something else?!
            It'll need a few dinky little kicks to counter that...

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            • chimoausC chimoaus

              @nzzp said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @Crazy-Horse said in 6 Nations 2019:

              Just saw Slade's try. He was in front of the kicker, no question. I'd be pissed if that try was awarded against the ABs.

              Really? Seemed tight but marginal to me - the foot the ball was kicked from was just in front of Slade's hindmost foot. Plenty of overlap though - I'd probably be annoyed if it was rubbed out if it was my team that scored it

              It appears the pass preceding the kick was clearly forward and not looked at which is upsetting the Irish more I think.

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              @chimoaus said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @nzzp said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @Crazy-Horse said in 6 Nations 2019:

              Just saw Slade's try. He was in front of the kicker, no question. I'd be pissed if that try was awarded against the ABs.

              Really? Seemed tight but marginal to me - the foot the ball was kicked from was just in front of Slade's hindmost foot. Plenty of overlap though - I'd probably be annoyed if it was rubbed out if it was my team that scored it

              It appears the pass preceding the kick was clearly forward and not looked at which is upsetting the Irish more I think.

              So many people don't seem to know or understand forward pass laws that I struggle to get too upset. It's the filthy inconsistency in application from one week to the next that gets me. Wayne Barnes I'm looking at yo ufella

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/81012051/referee-review-an-attempted-explanation-of-wayne-barnes-bungled-forward-pass-call

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              • SiamS Siam

                I don't know the wording of the laws but Slade was never behind the kicker. That's the truth of it, whatever the verdict wording

                Itoje not being carded for accidentally over running the ball by 5 yards and then accidentally taking out the only catcher further illuminated the fact that rugby will forever be plagued by officiating inconsistencies.

                Fuck wasn't the poms linespeed and defence something else?!
                It'll need a few dinky little kicks to counter that...

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                @Siam said in 6 Nations 2019:

                Fuck wasn't the poms linespeed and defence something else?!
                It'll need a few dinky little kicks to counter that...

                And not B Barrett. There, I said it.

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                  England looked very good, creating pressure and taking chances. Good defence on which they built a winning platform. Slade good in the midfield, Sinckler looks lazy. First half slow to his feet, waddling to breakdowns to observe. Good for jumping into tackles and a bit of niggle.

                  Ireland looked one dimensional and bereft of ideas without the ability to go forward. 2018 POTY looked very average without front foot ball and increasingly went back into the pocket to get time and space. Where were Ireland's back row?

                  Garces a donkey ref, so nothing new there but what happened to the increased attention to high tackles and neck rolls?

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                  • chimoausC chimoaus

                    That first England try sure was impressive, you couldn't ask for a better start. Ireland just couldn't get any front foot ball and England minimised their own errors.

                    I recall thinking I never saw a clear grounding by Healy when he went over. From the angles I saw there is an English hand under the ball the entire time. Maybe I missed something.

                    It also put a smile on my face when Vunipola was named MOM, not many props get that award.

                    So where does this result put Ireland on their quest for the N1 standing?

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                    @chimoaus said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    I recall thinking I never saw a clear grounding by Healy when he went over. From the angles I saw there is an English hand under the ball the entire time. Maybe I missed something.

                    I thought exactly the same thing when I saw it.

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                      Havent seen the game yet ,

                      But makes things interesting ,

                      On our tour the ireland game became the big talking point , the england game got swept under the carpet a bit , but they were pretty good considering their injuries

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                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                        Just saw Slade's try. He was in front of the kicker, no question. I'd be pissed if that try was awarded against the ABs.

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                        @Crazy-Horse said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        Just saw Slade's try. He was in front of the kicker, no question. I'd be pissed if that try was awarded against the ABs.

                        Although, we'd be annoyed to have as many tries against us aside from that one.

                        Has the Ireland bubble burst?

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          @nzzp yeah camera angles make it pretty hard to be definate. Wonder if something is in the pipeline to help the TMO out, like superimposed lines or something.

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                          @Crazy-Horse said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          @nzzp yeah camera angles make it pretty hard to be definate. Wonder if something is in the pipeline to help the TMO out, like superimposed lines or something.

                          Hang on, you just said "no question"! Now it's hard to be definite? It was the right call by the tmo, 100 percent.

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                          • SiamS Siam

                            I don't know the wording of the laws but Slade was never behind the kicker. That's the truth of it, whatever the verdict wording

                            Itoje not being carded for accidentally over running the ball by 5 yards and then accidentally taking out the only catcher further illuminated the fact that rugby will forever be plagued by officiating inconsistencies.

                            Fuck wasn't the poms linespeed and defence something else?!
                            It'll need a few dinky little kicks to counter that...

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                            @Siam said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            I don't know the wording of the laws but Slade was never behind the kicker. That's the truth of it, whatever the verdict wording

                            Itoje not being carded for accidentally over running the ball by 5 yards and then accidentally taking out the only catcher further illuminated the fact that rugby will forever be plagued by officiating inconsistencies.

                            Fuck wasn't the poms linespeed and defence something else?!
                            It'll need a few dinky little kicks to counter that...

                            Is obstruction a carding offence now? That makes it odd that Murray wasn't carded for taking out the other "only" catcher in the same incident.

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                              @Crazy-Horse said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              @nzzp yeah camera angles make it pretty hard to be definate. Wonder if something is in the pipeline to help the TMO out, like superimposed lines or something.

                              Hang on, you just said "no question"! Now it's hard to be definite? It was the right call by the tmo, 100 percent.

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                              @Bones I was being generic.

                              I still say he was in front. 100%.

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                              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                @Bones I was being generic.

                                I still say he was in front. 100%.

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                                @Crazy-Horse huh what does being generic mean? Why do you say he was in front? Certainly not obvious from the angles I saw.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Crazy-Horse huh what does being generic mean? Why do you say he was in front? Certainly not obvious from the angles I saw.

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                                  @Bones said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                  Why do you say he was in front?

                                  Because he was in front ๐Ÿ˜€

                                  I meant generally it can be hard to tell if someone is in front or not because of the camera angles etc. Not necessarily referring to that try. I can see why that try wasn't overturned It would have taken some balls to do it on that evidence.

                                  Hopefully an Irish fan produces a photo with a hand drawn line across the pitch proving I am right!

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                                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                    @Bones said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                    Why do you say he was in front?

                                    Because he was in front ๐Ÿ˜€

                                    I meant generally it can be hard to tell if someone is in front or not because of the camera angles etc. Not necessarily referring to that try. I can see why that try wasn't overturned It would have taken some balls to do it on that evidence.

                                    Hopefully an Irish fan produces a photo with a hand drawn line across the pitch proving I am right!

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                                    @Crazy-Horse you've lost your red pen?

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Crazy-Horse you've lost your red pen?

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                                      @Bones I am lucky to be able to turn on a computer let alone do something like draw a line on a photo and put it on the 'net'.

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        @Bones I am lucky to be able to turn on a computer let alone do something like draw a line on a photo and put it on the 'net'.

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                                        @Crazy-Horse said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        @Bones I am lucky to be able to turn on a computer let alone do something like draw a line on a photo and put it on the 'net'.

                                        Word to this post brother. That's why I wear contacts instead of glasses. People think I'm some kind of IT whiz otherwise.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @Crazy-Horse said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @Bones I am lucky to be able to turn on a computer let alone do something like draw a line on a photo and put it on the 'net'.

                                          Word to this post brother. That's why I wear contacts instead of glasses. People think I'm some kind of IT whiz otherwise.

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                                          @MN5 I once got accused of doctoring CCTV footage in court and I stifled a giggle. The magistrate wanted to know what was so funny and I enlightened him on my lack of prowess in front of the computer. He said he felt my pain.

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