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Black Caps v India

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    @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

    Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

    You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

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    @shark he's a funny one I reckon, but he's now only a t20 player and should be an automatic pick in the format where each result means nothing really.

    He was player of the tournament in the Caribbean last year and actually has a cool mid wicket hoick off a good ball, (Jesse had the best one). He can play, he's got ability and has achieved a lot.

    But

    We all agree he's not worth the gamble in 50 over cricket.

    (be nice if those words come back to bite me on the arse)

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      @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

      Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

      You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

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      @shark said in Black Caps v India:

      @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

      Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

      You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

      I don't think Worker will average 33 across the tournament. If he's batting slowly and Guptill starts slowly then it will be difficult for us to get the 300+ scores which we need. Batting is actually the relative strength of our one day team.

      Obviously we could pick Worker and he could have a good tournament but I think an average of 33 would be the tip of his ceiling against the 9 other teams in the tournament.

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        @shark said in Black Caps v India:

        @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

        Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

        You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

        I don't think Worker will average 33 across the tournament. If he's batting slowly and Guptill starts slowly then it will be difficult for us to get the 300+ scores which we need. Batting is actually the relative strength of our one day team.

        Obviously we could pick Worker and he could have a good tournament but I think an average of 33 would be the tip of his ceiling against the 9 other teams in the tournament.

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        @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

        @shark said in Black Caps v India:

        @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

        Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

        You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

        I don't think Worker will average 33 across the tournament. If he's batting slowly and Guptill starts slowly then it will be difficult for us to get the 300+ scores which we need. Batting is actually the relative strength of our one day team.

        Obviously we could pick Worker and he could have a good tournament but I think an average of 33 would be the tip of his ceiling against the 9 other teams in the tournament.

        You're probably right re Worker. I mean a career average of 34 across 10 matches VS five countries of varying quality including three 50s really provides zero indication of what he might achieve in a round robin of around 10 matches against nations of varying quality.

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        • sharkS shark

          @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

          @shark said in Black Caps v India:

          @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

          Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

          You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

          I don't think Worker will average 33 across the tournament. If he's batting slowly and Guptill starts slowly then it will be difficult for us to get the 300+ scores which we need. Batting is actually the relative strength of our one day team.

          Obviously we could pick Worker and he could have a good tournament but I think an average of 33 would be the tip of his ceiling against the 9 other teams in the tournament.

          You're probably right re Worker. I mean a career average of 34 across 10 matches VS five countries of varying quality including three 50s really provides zero indication of what he might achieve in a round robin of around 10 matches against nations of varying quality.

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          @shark said in Black Caps v India:

          @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

          @shark said in Black Caps v India:

          @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

          Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

          You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

          I don't think Worker will average 33 across the tournament. If he's batting slowly and Guptill starts slowly then it will be difficult for us to get the 300+ scores which we need. Batting is actually the relative strength of our one day team.

          Obviously we could pick Worker and he could have a good tournament but I think an average of 33 would be the tip of his ceiling against the 9 other teams in the tournament.

          You're probably right re Worker. I mean a career average of 34 across 10 matches VS five countries of varying quality including three 50s really provides zero indication of what he might achieve in a round robin of around 10 matches against nations of varying quality.

          Only got 50's versus Windies at home and Ireland though. Plus a slow strike rate.

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            @shark said in Black Caps v India:

            @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

            @shark said in Black Caps v India:

            @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

            Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

            You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

            I don't think Worker will average 33 across the tournament. If he's batting slowly and Guptill starts slowly then it will be difficult for us to get the 300+ scores which we need. Batting is actually the relative strength of our one day team.

            Obviously we could pick Worker and he could have a good tournament but I think an average of 33 would be the tip of his ceiling against the 9 other teams in the tournament.

            You're probably right re Worker. I mean a career average of 34 across 10 matches VS five countries of varying quality including three 50s really provides zero indication of what he might achieve in a round robin of around 10 matches against nations of varying quality.

            Only got 50's versus Windies at home and Ireland though. Plus a slow strike rate.

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            @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

            @shark said in Black Caps v India:

            @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

            @shark said in Black Caps v India:

            @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

            Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

            You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

            I don't think Worker will average 33 across the tournament. If he's batting slowly and Guptill starts slowly then it will be difficult for us to get the 300+ scores which we need. Batting is actually the relative strength of our one day team.

            Obviously we could pick Worker and he could have a good tournament but I think an average of 33 would be the tip of his ceiling against the 9 other teams in the tournament.

            You're probably right re Worker. I mean a career average of 34 across 10 matches VS five countries of varying quality including three 50s really provides zero indication of what he might achieve in a round robin of around 10 matches against nations of varying quality.

            Only got 50's versus Windies at home and Ireland though. Plus a slow strike rate.

            So about as inspired a selection as Jamie How or Peter Fulton then....

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              Jamie How should have had a better BC career. He showed enough early on in away series VS SA and home series VS a vastly better SL team to make me think he'd become a mainstay of the side. What was the knock on How? That he hit great shots to fieldsmen too often. Brilliant.

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                Anyway, back in topic and I said in preference to Munro I'd rather have "a Worker" ie not necessarily Worker but if someone said to you that we could select an opener to partner Guppy for the WC and he'd score three 50s at a SR of 80, I'd take that vs the Munro offering.

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                  Oh Crap Slogger munro gets another chance - what does he have on NZ selectors?

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                    Anyway, back in topic and I said in preference to Munro I'd rather have "a Worker" ie not necessarily Worker but if someone said to you that we could select an opener to partner Guppy for the WC and he'd score three 50s at a SR of 80, I'd take that vs the Munro offering.

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                    @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                    Anyway, back in topic and I said in preference to Munro I'd rather have "a Worker" ie not necessarily Worker but if someone said to you that we could select an opener to partner Guppy for the WC and he'd score three 50s at a SR of 80, I'd take that vs the Munro offering.

                    We're not the All Blacks. Our list of bolters is slim to none at best.

                    With the likes of Rossco, KW, Guptill and Nicholls in the top order others are gonna look a bit shit in comparison.

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                      Cantab Stead is pretty determined to pick cantab Henry. Henry has had worse form than Munro.

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                        Cantab Stead is pretty determined to pick cantab Henry. Henry has had worse form than Munro.

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                        @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

                        Cantab Stead is pretty determined to pick cantab Henry. Henry has had worse form than Munro.

                        Henry is a total pie thrower. He must only be in the mix because Milne and Ferguson aren't fit at the same time

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                          Embarrassingly empty stadium.

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                            Cantab Stead is pretty determined to pick cantab Henry. Henry has had worse form than Munro.

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                            @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

                            Cantab Stead is pretty determined to pick cantab Henry. Henry has had worse form than Munro.

                            He seems to be incredibly hittable in ODI's...

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                              Embarrassingly empty stadium.

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                              @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

                              Embarrassingly empty stadium.

                              I prefer drinking decent beer on my couch rather than $8 half strength Monteiths.

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                                @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

                                Embarrassingly empty stadium.

                                I prefer drinking decent beer on my couch rather than $8 half strength Monteiths.

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                                @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

                                Embarrassingly empty stadium.

                                I prefer drinking decent beer on my couch rather than $8 half strength Monteiths.

                                Yeah lots of half pie cricket fans think like that.

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                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

                                  Embarrassingly empty stadium.

                                  I prefer drinking decent beer on my couch rather than $8 half strength Monteiths.

                                  Yeah lots of half pie cricket fans think like that.

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                                  @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                  @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

                                  Embarrassingly empty stadium.

                                  I prefer drinking decent beer on my couch rather than $8 half strength Monteiths.

                                  Yeah lots of half pie cricket fans think like that.

                                  Yawn. A predictably passive aggressive response.

                                  They'd actually fill the stadium a lot more if they took those criticisms on board.

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                                    Matt Henry. Go son !

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                                      @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

                                      @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                      @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

                                      Embarrassingly empty stadium.

                                      I prefer drinking decent beer on my couch rather than $8 half strength Monteiths.

                                      Yeah lots of half pie cricket fans think like that.

                                      Yawn. A predictably passive aggressive response.

                                      They'd actually fill the stadium a lot more if they took those criticisms on board.

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                                      @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                      @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

                                      @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                      @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

                                      Embarrassingly empty stadium.

                                      I prefer drinking decent beer on my couch rather than $8 half strength Monteiths.

                                      Yeah lots of half pie cricket fans think like that.

                                      Yawn. A predictably passive aggressive response.

                                      They'd actually fill the stadium a lot more if they took those criticisms on board.

                                      Truth hurts i guess.Not going to cricket in your city because beer is expensive....
                                      Not a boss move.

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                                        Good start. 13/2. Nice, tight bowling. Keep it up lads.

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                                          India now 105/12...

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