Black Caps v India
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps v India:
@Cyclops Yeah - I'm surprised Kane didn't bowl at all in this series.
I think it is crazy. He is a decent 7th option, and a decent 2nd spin option on some pitches. Plus he can buy wickets, which is sometimes just what is needed in ODI's
My WC team would be
Nicholls
Guptill
Williamson
Taylor
Latham
Munro
Neesham
De Grandhomme
Sodhi
Ferguson
BoultBoult, Ferguson, Sodhi to bowl 10 each, with Neesham, De Grandhomme, Munro and Williamson to share the other 20.
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
My WC team would be
Nicholls
Guptill
Williamson
Taylor
Latham
Munro
Neesham
De Grandhomme
Sodhi
Ferguson
BoultBoult, Ferguson, Sodhi to bowl 10 each, with Neesham, De Grandhomme, Munro and Williamson to share the other 20.
It's concerning that the only bowler who's a certainty is Boult (and to a lesser extent Neesham).
I don't think we can afford twenty overs of the Colins and Jimmy (and Kane not bowling himself) and I don't really think their batting warrants two Colins. I'm not even sure about one!
Sodhi or Santner? Sodhi always looks a bit more likely to take wickets, but that doesn't necessarily seem to translate to reality. That should be the primary consideration, but if it's a tie then Santner's batting is better.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@akan004 said in Black Caps v India:
So the biggest city in NZ with by far and away the largest Indian population doesn't get a ODI. Do these guys not like making money?
NZC had a falling out with Eden Park I believe. Lots of issues, including people that live in the area being absolute fucking killjoys and making it difficult to have events that go past a certain time. But also that it's not a cricket ground. I'm sure other posters can elaborate further but the situation is an absolute farce.
Actually it comes done to the fact the Eden Park games need to finish by 10PM but Star Sports want the games to start at 3PM. I guess NZC must make more from the broadcasting rights than they do from ticket sales:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12092682@LABCAT said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@akan004 said in Black Caps v India:
So the biggest city in NZ with by far and away the largest Indian population doesn't get a ODI. Do these guys not like making money?
NZC had a falling out with Eden Park I believe. Lots of issues, including people that live in the area being absolute fucking killjoys and making it difficult to have events that go past a certain time. But also that it's not a cricket ground. I'm sure other posters can elaborate further but the situation is an absolute farce.
Actually it comes done to the fact the Eden Park games need to finish by 10PM but Star Sports want the games to start at 3PM. I guess NZC must make more from the broadcasting rights than they do from ticket sales:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12092682Well yeah, as per my post it's difficult to have events that go past a certain time. That they make most of their money through broadcasting when playing India is self-evident, but not the root cause of the problem.
NZC have also made it clear they are not happy with Eden Park as a venue:
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/cricket/unaffordable-and-wrong-size-nz-cricket-sink-boot-into-eden-park-they-push-new-auckland-international-venue?variant=tb_v_1It's not just the Indian series. Two matches for the whole summer against Sri Lanka, India and Bangladesh paints a pretty clear picture. Auckland is in desperate need of a proper cricket ground.
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@LABCAT said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@akan004 said in Black Caps v India:
So the biggest city in NZ with by far and away the largest Indian population doesn't get a ODI. Do these guys not like making money?
NZC had a falling out with Eden Park I believe. Lots of issues, including people that live in the area being absolute fucking killjoys and making it difficult to have events that go past a certain time. But also that it's not a cricket ground. I'm sure other posters can elaborate further but the situation is an absolute farce.
Actually it comes done to the fact the Eden Park games need to finish by 10PM but Star Sports want the games to start at 3PM. I guess NZC must make more from the broadcasting rights than they do from ticket sales:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12092682Well yeah, as per my post it's difficult to have events that go past a certain time. That they make most of their money through broadcasting when playing India is self-evident, but not the root cause of the problem.
NZC have also made it clear they are not happy with Eden Park as a venue:
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/cricket/unaffordable-and-wrong-size-nz-cricket-sink-boot-into-eden-park-they-push-new-auckland-international-venue?variant=tb_v_1It's not just the Indian series. Two matches for the whole summer against Sri Lanka, India and Bangladesh paints a pretty clear picture. Auckland is in desperate need of a proper cricket ground.
@No-Quarter Is the Speedway still the preferred place? Traffic around there would be a nightmare.
I remember Jeremy Wells pushing for a cricket venue in Victoria Park but people said it wouldn't work (this was before Hagley Oval worked).
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Which cricket ground had the highest attendance in the India series? Was Wellington the worst?
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Just realised the BCs have a warm-up (or confidence breaker) against India at the Oval followed by another potential embarrassment against the Windies two days later in Bristol.
The Oval game should see good attendance from the usual cricket mad Indian crowd but a Windies game up the road from Brixton would have been a better fixture if it had rolled that way.All games, including warm ups are ticketed through the main website and it may be worth checking back after seating is completed for any new ones to come on the market..
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@No-Quarter Is the Speedway still the preferred place? Traffic around there would be a nightmare.
I remember Jeremy Wells pushing for a cricket venue in Victoria Park but people said it wouldn't work (this was before Hagley Oval worked).
@Sneakdefreak said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter Is the Speedway still the preferred place? Traffic around there would be a nightmare.
I remember Jeremy Wells pushing for a cricket venue in Victoria Park but people said it wouldn't work (this was before Hagley Oval worked).
I have no idea TBH, it's a pretty difficult problem to solve. Eden Park is obviously not going to work long-term though, it's a joke that I have basically no international cricket to take my family too, especially now my boy is getting an interest in the game.
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@Sneakdefreak said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter Is the Speedway still the preferred place? Traffic around there would be a nightmare.
I remember Jeremy Wells pushing for a cricket venue in Victoria Park but people said it wouldn't work (this was before Hagley Oval worked).
I have no idea TBH, it's a pretty difficult problem to solve. Eden Park is obviously not going to work long-term though, it's a joke that I have basically no international cricket to take my family too, especially now my boy is getting an interest in the game.
@No-Quarter I always favoured developing the old Avondale Racecourse into a test cricket venue, making it home to Suburbs New Lynn and Auckland Cricket in the process. But that will be turned into residential/commercial property when it's finally sold.
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@No-Quarter I always favoured developing the old Avondale Racecourse into a test cricket venue, making it home to Suburbs New Lynn and Auckland Cricket in the process. But that will be turned into residential/commercial property when it's finally sold.
@Sneakdefreak said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter I always favoured developing the old Avondale Racecourse into a test cricket venue, making it home to Suburbs New Lynn and Auckland Cricket in the process. But that will be turned into residential/commercial property when it's finally sold.
Due to be sold in next couple of years too
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Munro's T20 record is insane. 33 average at a 162(!!) SR with 3 tons. This is his forte.
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Handy start.
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@KiwiMurph He might be now
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@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v India:
Why isnt Seifert an ODI opener option?
I think he's sort of Munro Junior. Or Guppy as a test player.
In T20, you can come out and pretty much swing at everything. In ODIs, you've got to be a bit more circumspect and the consequences of getting out are far higher.
Weird thing is - if Munro had the same stats in ODIs as he does in T20, I'd say go with him. Average of 33 with a strike rate of 161. Somehow, the psychology is different.
Comms were saying that the bowlers have different strategies. But, if that's the case why don't they employ the same ODI strategies to Munro in T20s?
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@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v India:
Why isnt Seifert an ODI opener option?
I think he's sort of Munro Junior. Or Guppy as a test player.
In T20, you can come out and pretty much swing at everything. In ODIs, you've got to be a bit more circumspect and the consequences of getting out are far higher.
Weird thing is - if Munro had the same stats in ODIs as he does in T20, I'd say go with him. Average of 33 with a strike rate of 161. Somehow, the psychology is different.
Comms were saying that the bowlers have different strategies. But, if that's the case why don't they employ the same ODI strategies to Munro in T20s?
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@Chris-B I reckon he's worth a go somewhere in the lineup. Even if you wanted to open with Latham and have this fella further down the order. Black Caps ODI team badly need batting help. I see he has a first class average of 37 with 4 centuries.
@KiwiMurph He can certainly bat and I'd say he's well in the mix for the reserves for the CWC.
You can basically pick your first choice XI - and then balance suggests you pick one reserve seamer, spinner, keeper and batsman.
But, they could try to open more options by making Nicholls their reserve keeper - especially, because Seifert is also definitely not great with the gloves.
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An hour ago this fella Seifert was being overlooked for the odi squad by nearly all of us here, and justifiably so.
He's still not good enough for the one day team, but that was a nice wee chapter in his development. He's got the game so we know to keep giving him resources, but no need to rush him in as a cure all for our recent weak batting performances.
Needs lots of work on his keeping too as I recall
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Watched a lot of Seifert for ND, he is a very good keeper.
I rate Watling and Blundell higher but nobody else. -
An hour ago this fella Seifert was being overlooked for the odi squad by nearly all of us here, and justifiably so.
He's still not good enough for the one day team, but that was a nice wee chapter in his development. He's got the game so we know to keep giving him resources, but no need to rush him in as a cure all for our recent weak batting performances.
Needs lots of work on his keeping too as I recall
