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6 Nations 2019

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

    I watched the game and I really think Gregor is clutching at straws. I don’t think there were persistent offsides.

    It’s more the consistent pushing at the offside line that makes the call “obviously” offside rather not “not onside”.
    I would be fairly certain that with accurate technology you would notice persistent offside but I also wouldn’t want to go down that path.
    In the modern game it really is the main thing that is curtailing attacking play.
    Although most decisions in the game are ‘obvious infringement’ I really think that offside has to go to ‘obvious adherence”. If the ref team can’t observe an obvious gap then players are deemed offside

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    @Crucial said in 6 Nations 2019:

    @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

    I watched the game and I really think Gregor is clutching at straws. I don’t think there were persistent offsides.

    It’s more the consistent pushing at the offside line that makes the call “obviously” offside rather not “not onside”.
    I would be fairly certain that with accurate technology you would notice persistent offside but I also wouldn’t want to go down that path.
    In the modern game it really is the main thing that is curtailing attacking play.
    Although most decisions in the game are ‘obvious infringement’ I really think that offside has to go to ‘obvious adherence”. If the ref team can’t observe an obvious gap then players are deemed offside

    Wales walk the line all match, every match. That's Shaun Edwards' way.

    Where they get away with it is either

    1. The whole back line is in sync so there's no obvious 'culprit' offside. Much harder for the ref to identify an individual.

    2. The wings are slightly ahead of 10, 12, 13 but because they're further away from the action and not involved the ref ignores them. But the midfield axis are offside as a unit, they just don't look like they are.

    It goes to shit and Wales get deservedly penalised when someone isn't in sync with the two options above.

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      Wales team to face Italy on Saturday

      Wales: L Williams; Holmes, J Davies (capt), Watkin, Adams; Biggar, A Davies

      N Smith, Dee, Lee, Ball, Beard Wainwright, Young, Navidi

      Replacements:
      Elias, W Jones, D Lewis, Alun Wyn Jones, Moriarty
      G Davies, Anscombe, Amos

      Great to see Aberdare boy - and son of Wales & BI Lions prop David Young - Thomas Young getting a run out.

      Great to see both depth and youth in the squad.

      Based on last Saturday's performance against Scotland, the Italians can be dangerous if you take your foot off the gas (throat).

      Wales should have too much.

      Wales by 25-30.

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        Wales team to face Italy on Saturday

        Wales: L Williams; Holmes, J Davies (capt), Watkin, Adams; Biggar, A Davies

        N Smith, Dee, Lee, Ball, Beard Wainwright, Young, Navidi

        Replacements:
        Elias, W Jones, D Lewis, Alun Wyn Jones, Moriarty
        G Davies, Anscombe, Amos

        Great to see Aberdare boy - and son of Wales & BI Lions prop David Young - Thomas Young getting a run out.

        Great to see both depth and youth in the squad.

        Based on last Saturday's performance against Scotland, the Italians can be dangerous if you take your foot off the gas (throat).

        Wales should have too much.

        Wales by 25-30.

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        @MiketheSnow Dunno if you've seen much of Young's performances for Wasps over the last couple of seasons but he's been very good. England qualified but it would have been a travesty if he'd not plumped for Wales.

        I see Gatland has gone with some experience on the bench... just in case.

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        • CatograndeC Catogrande

          @MiketheSnow Dunno if you've seen much of Young's performances for Wasps over the last couple of seasons but he's been very good. England qualified but it would have been a travesty if he'd not plumped for Wales.

          I see Gatland has gone with some experience on the bench... just in case.

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          @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

          @MiketheSnow Dunno if you've seen much of Young's performances for Wasps over the last couple of seasons but he's been very good. England qualified but it would have been a travesty if he'd not plumped for Wales.

          I see Gatland has gone with some experience on the bench... just in case.

          Yes.

          Was in school with Dai and followed Thomas' career.

          Consistently good. Offers something different from the bigger back row forwards like Moriarty et al

          Deserves a shot.

          Yes. Experienced bench to bring it home if needed.

          Will be interesting to see who plays 10 against your mob.

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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @MiketheSnow Dunno if you've seen much of Young's performances for Wasps over the last couple of seasons but he's been very good. England qualified but it would have been a travesty if he'd not plumped for Wales.

            I see Gatland has gone with some experience on the bench... just in case.

            Yes.

            Was in school with Dai and followed Thomas' career.

            Consistently good. Offers something different from the bigger back row forwards like Moriarty et al

            Deserves a shot.

            Yes. Experienced bench to bring it home if needed.

            Will be interesting to see who plays 10 against your mob.

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            @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @MiketheSnow Dunno if you've seen much of Young's performances for Wasps over the last couple of seasons but he's been very good. England qualified but it would have been a travesty if he'd not plumped for Wales.

            I see Gatland has gone with some experience on the bench... just in case.

            Yes.

            Was in school with Dai and followed Thomas' career.

            Consistently good. Offers something different from the bigger back row forwards like Moriarty et al

            Deserves a shot.

            Yes. Experienced bench to bring it home if needed.

            Will be interesting to see who plays 10 against your mob.

            Hopefully someone with only one leg. I shall be at the Millennium on a hosted event so it will be a great day whatever happens though of course a win for the good guys (They wear white BTW) would be the icing on the cake. Are you going to the game?

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            • CatograndeC Catogrande

              @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @MiketheSnow Dunno if you've seen much of Young's performances for Wasps over the last couple of seasons but he's been very good. England qualified but it would have been a travesty if he'd not plumped for Wales.

              I see Gatland has gone with some experience on the bench... just in case.

              Yes.

              Was in school with Dai and followed Thomas' career.

              Consistently good. Offers something different from the bigger back row forwards like Moriarty et al

              Deserves a shot.

              Yes. Experienced bench to bring it home if needed.

              Will be interesting to see who plays 10 against your mob.

              Hopefully someone with only one leg. I shall be at the Millennium on a hosted event so it will be a great day whatever happens though of course a win for the good guys (They wear white BTW) would be the icing on the cake. Are you going to the game?

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              @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @MiketheSnow Dunno if you've seen much of Young's performances for Wasps over the last couple of seasons but he's been very good. England qualified but it would have been a travesty if he'd not plumped for Wales.

              I see Gatland has gone with some experience on the bench... just in case.

              Yes.

              Was in school with Dai and followed Thomas' career.

              Consistently good. Offers something different from the bigger back row forwards like Moriarty et al

              Deserves a shot.

              Yes. Experienced bench to bring it home if needed.

              Will be interesting to see who plays 10 against your mob.

              Hopefully someone with only one leg. I shall be at the Millennium on a hosted event so it will be a great day whatever happens though of course a win for the good guys (They wear white BTW) would be the icing on the cake. Are you going to the game?

              Enjoy.

              Unfortunately not.

              Still on Hokkaido, Japan.

              Back for the Irish match.

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @MiketheSnow Dunno if you've seen much of Young's performances for Wasps over the last couple of seasons but he's been very good. England qualified but it would have been a travesty if he'd not plumped for Wales.

                I see Gatland has gone with some experience on the bench... just in case.

                Yes.

                Was in school with Dai and followed Thomas' career.

                Consistently good. Offers something different from the bigger back row forwards like Moriarty et al

                Deserves a shot.

                Yes. Experienced bench to bring it home if needed.

                Will be interesting to see who plays 10 against your mob.

                Hopefully someone with only one leg. I shall be at the Millennium on a hosted event so it will be a great day whatever happens though of course a win for the good guys (They wear white BTW) would be the icing on the cake. Are you going to the game?

                Enjoy.

                Unfortunately not.

                Still on Hokkaido, Japan.

                Back for the Irish match.

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                Catogrande
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                #273

                @MiketheSnow Work or Snow in Hokkaido?

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                  #274

                  Schmidt makes a couple of changes for the Scots at Murrayfield. Henshaw joins the temp. injured along with Ringrose, Toner.
                  15.Rob Kearney (Leinster/UCD) 87 caps
                  14. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 73
                  13. Chris Farrell (Munster/Young Munster) 3 caps
                  12. Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht) 13
                  11. Jacob Stockdale (Lurgan/Ulster) 15
                  10. Jonathan Sexton (St. Mary’s College/Leinster) 79 (vc)
                  9. Conor Murray (Munster/Garryowen) 68

                  1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 85
                  2. Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster) 114 (c)
                  3. Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 29
                  4. James Ryan (UCD/Leinster) 14
                  5. Quinn Roux (Galwegians/Connacht) 9
                  6. Peter O’Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 53 (vc)
                  7. Sean O’Brien (Leinster/UCD) 53
                  8. Jack Conan (Leinster/Old Belvedere) 11 caps

                  Replacements
                  16. Sean Cronin (St. Mary’s College/Leinster) 66
                  17. Dave Kilcoyne (Munster/UL Bohemians) 25
                  18. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster) 12
                  19. Ultan Dillane (Connacht/Corinthians) 11 caps
                  20. Josh van der Flier (Leinster/UCD) 14 caps
                  21. John Cooney (Ulster/Terenure College) 5
                  22. Joey Carbery (Clontarf/Munster) 17
                  23. Jordan Larmour (St. Mary’s College/Leinster) 10

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                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                    @MiketheSnow Work or Snow in Hokkaido?

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                    #275

                    @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    @MiketheSnow Work or Snow in Hokkaido?

                    Both.

                    Ski instructor in SW Hokkaido

                    https://www.instagram.com/mikethesnow/

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      @MiketheSnow Work or Snow in Hokkaido?

                      Both.

                      Ski instructor in SW Hokkaido

                      https://www.instagram.com/mikethesnow/

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                      @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      @MiketheSnow Work or Snow in Hokkaido?

                      Both.

                      Ski instructor in SW Hokkaido

                      https://www.instagram.com/mikethesnow/

                      I first skied Niseko like most people, took a look around at all the Australians and Kiwis, ever since I've been going to Furano, Tomamu and Kurodake. Less like Bali on snow...

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        @MiketheSnow Work or Snow in Hokkaido?

                        Both.

                        Ski instructor in SW Hokkaido

                        https://www.instagram.com/mikethesnow/

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                        Catogrande
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                        #277

                        @MiketheSnow

                        Looks awesome feller. Living the dream, good on ya.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          @MiketheSnow Work or Snow in Hokkaido?

                          Both.

                          Ski instructor in SW Hokkaido

                          https://www.instagram.com/mikethesnow/

                          I first skied Niseko like most people, took a look around at all the Australians and Kiwis, ever since I've been going to Furano, Tomamu and Kurodake. Less like Bali on snow...

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                          @antipodean said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          @MiketheSnow Work or Snow in Hokkaido?

                          Both.

                          Ski instructor in SW Hokkaido

                          https://www.instagram.com/mikethesnow/

                          I first skied Niseko like most people, took a look around at all the Australians and Kiwis, ever since I've been going to Furano, Tomamu and Kurodake. Less like Bali on snow...

                          It's changed.

                          Lot less Australians and way more SE Asians.

                          Base myself in Niseko Hirafu because that's where my customers own propreties.

                          But mainly ski Kiroro, Rusutsu and Niseko Moiwa.

                          Just did a 10-day roadie hitting the bigger and smaller resorts around Hakodate and Asahikawa.

                          Magic.

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                          • CatograndeC Catogrande

                            @MiketheSnow

                            Looks awesome feller. Living the dream, good on ya.

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                            @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            @MiketheSnow

                            Looks awesome feller. Living the dream, good on ya.

                            Cheers.

                            Yes. Very lucky. Hokkaido is 'Fantasy Island'.

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                              From mascot to match XV

                              https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/rugby-union/47163113

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                                A couple of interesting sightings at England training...

                                https://twitter.com/CharlieFelix/status/1093826013090496512

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                                  England match day squad for the French game. One Steady Eddie leftfield selection is that of Ashton instead of Nowell, considering the impact Nowell had last week. However, apart from that, not much to moan about.

                                  England team to play France:

                                  Daly; Ashton, Slade, Tuilagi, May; Farrell, Youngs; M Vunipola, George, Sinckler, Lawes, Kruis, Wilson, Curry, B Vunipola

                                  Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Cole, Moon, Launchbury, Hughes, Robson, Ford, Nowell

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                                    England match day squad for the French game. One Steady Eddie leftfield selection is that of Ashton instead of Nowell, considering the impact Nowell had last week. However, apart from that, not much to moan about.

                                    England team to play France:

                                    Daly; Ashton, Slade, Tuilagi, May; Farrell, Youngs; M Vunipola, George, Sinckler, Lawes, Kruis, Wilson, Curry, B Vunipola

                                    Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Cole, Moon, Launchbury, Hughes, Robson, Ford, Nowell

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                                    @Catogrande that Wilson, Curry, Billy front row is gonna get slaughtered. Loose trio looks pretty slow too.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Catogrande that Wilson, Curry, Billy front row is gonna get slaughtered. Loose trio looks pretty slow too.

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                                      @Bones said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      @Catogrande that Wilson, Curry, Billy front row is gonna get slaughtered. Loose trio looks pretty slow too.

                                      Don't have to be fast if you start running from offside.

                                      Hoping France pull out an 80 minute performance and the offside line is policed.

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                                        The Sunwolves play in 7 days right?

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                                          The Sunwolves play in 7 days right?

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                                          @rotated yep.
                                          https://twitter.com/ImbiberThe/status/1093852529190887424

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