Black Caps v India
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Glad we got the win, but fucking hell there was some ugly cricket on display. Real agricultural shots, and CdG's wicket was ludicrous. Why he even went for that when it was so wide. We were fortunate the Indian fielding wasn't great, some of our shot selection was diabolical. Indians nearly snatched the win, too because some of our bowling was pie cart. Sigh. (I did laugh at the wicket where the bat went flying one way and the ball went the other. Glad no one got a bat to the head.)
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Glad we got the win, but fucking hell there was some ugly cricket on display. Real agricultural shots, and CdG's wicket was ludicrous. Why he even went for that when it was so wide. We were fortunate the Indian fielding wasn't great, some of our shot selection was diabolical. Indians nearly snatched the win, too because some of our bowling was pie cart. Sigh. (I did laugh at the wicket where the bat went flying one way and the ball went the other. Glad no one got a bat to the head.)
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@Mokey my favourite moments were when they'd scan the crowd and it's just all Indians and then there'd be a random white face popping up waving like a spaz or big fat ginger standing hands on hips.
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Was reflecting over the weekend how enjoyable this Indian tour here has been. I've probably enjoyed it more than most other tours - despite the fact that they have outclassed us on a number of occasions. They have done it playing good cricket without being absolute muppets.
Their fans are sensational, just love cricket and seeing their heroes (MS Dhoni at Eden Park anyone?) the atmospheres at the grounds have been as good as you get, and it's been thoroughly enjoyable.
So, all in all, thanks India and come back soon. Was good fun.
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Was reflecting over the weekend how enjoyable this Indian tour here has been. I've probably enjoyed it more than most other tours - despite the fact that they have outclassed us on a number of occasions. They have done it playing good cricket without being absolute muppets.
Their fans are sensational, just love cricket and seeing their heroes (MS Dhoni at Eden Park anyone?) the atmospheres at the grounds have been as good as you get, and it's been thoroughly enjoyable.
So, all in all, thanks India and come back soon. Was good fun.
@nzzp I agree, it was a pity Kohli wasn't here for the full tour. But things may have panned out differently if he was - he definitely adds an edge to the team with his leadership and expectations around performing. Still a wee bit salty we didn't fire many shots against them in the ODI's, but that's on us and India put us under a lot of pressure.
Fark I thought last night was going to one of those snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!
Question, is Seifert showing enough to be considered on his batting alone? I've heard a few pundits rate his keeping, but he seems pretty bloody raw and that'll surely hold him back longer term?
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@booboo said in Black Caps v India:
I'm having a retrospective whinge about the Daryl Mitchell LBW decision.
I turned tele on milliseconds after he was given out on field, and he had said to Kane that he hit and asked if he should refer.
Cool.
Very first replay it was sooooo obvious he hit it I thought "oh good, not out".
Then I hear hear dufus in the box saying " no bat".
Say the fuck what? You fucking idiot.
Then the rock and roll in very slomo was indecisive, but if they replayed the full replay he'd have seen the nick.
Second, hot spot confirmed on both the bat and the ball.
I will admit that there may have been a hotspot on the bat prior to the ball passing, possibly from brushing the pad . However hotspot was pretty definitive on both bat and ball from both sides.
Sure snicko showed nothing. But the case for snicko being any sort of evidence is negated by Nigel "it could have come from anywhere, but I'm a complete moron" Llllllong.
Upshot is the DRS failed miserably due to human error. Mitchell and NZ was fucked over by incompetence.
Which brings me to my point.
It was pretty obvious everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, on the field knew Mitchell was not out.
And it certainly appeared that Sharma said as much to Mitchell who then asked Sharma to speak to the umpires, which he started to do. At which point Dhoni intervened and seemed to persuade him not to.
At this point I have lost any potential respect for Sharma who if he had any, ANY, integrity whatsoever he'd have called Mitchell back because he knew he was not out, but obviously has no mana or authority given he could be so overidden by his granddad MS.
And as for Dhoni? Despite his demi-god status in India is obviously an unethical underhanded selfish twunt. Hope you make the final of the world cup and get given out to a shocker with 2 runs left on the last ball with no reviews left.
I wish there were more guys playing like Adam Gilchrist.
Possibly my all time favourite Aussie cricketer overall, fucken legend and I do remember admiring his stance on walking. Some fucken good humour in this vid too.
What Australian Cricket did to deserve going from him to Brad Haddin is anyone's guess.
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Was reflecting over the weekend how enjoyable this Indian tour here has been. I've probably enjoyed it more than most other tours - despite the fact that they have outclassed us on a number of occasions. They have done it playing good cricket without being absolute muppets.
Their fans are sensational, just love cricket and seeing their heroes (MS Dhoni at Eden Park anyone?) the atmospheres at the grounds have been as good as you get, and it's been thoroughly enjoyable.
So, all in all, thanks India and come back soon. Was good fun.
@nzzp said in Black Caps v India:
Was reflecting over the weekend how enjoyable this Indian tour here has been. I've probably enjoyed it more than most other tours - despite the fact that they have outclassed us on a number of occasions. They have done it playing good cricket without being absolute muppets.
Their fans are sensational, just love cricket and seeing their heroes (MS Dhoni at Eden Park anyone?) the atmospheres at the grounds have been as good as you get, and it's been thoroughly enjoyable.
So, all in all, thanks India and come back soon. Was good fun.
I agree. And yeah the atmosphere was incredible at Eden Park. Was deafening when Dhoni walked out.
I think we learnt a lot from this tour, far more beneficial than just smashing Sri Lanka and the Bangles.
We still have a problem finding Guppy a partner. Munro confirmed what we all knew, that he will smack the shit teams but get found out against the better sides, which doesn't help us win a WC. Seifert showed some potential in the T20s, but that is a completely different ballgame to ODIs.
We have some depth in the bowling stocks, and I hope Henry's performances has secured him the new ball alongside Boult. Ferguson was up and down, but his extra pace can be a real point of difference against the middle/lower order.
Latham showed good form in the middle order so should stay there, Nicholls showed promise opening and is probably worth a shot to avoid exposing Kane too early against the new ball.
Neesh showed his class with the bat, but not so much the ball.
Based on this tour my A-team would be:
- Guptill
- Nicholls
- Williamson
- Taylor
- Latham
- Neesham
- CdG
- Santner
- Henry
- Ferguson
- Boult
I think 7 is the biggest question mark. Anderson would fill that gap but can't seem to stay fit. CdG found a bit of form in the T20s so is probably still the best bet there. Probably a bit high for the likes of Bracewell despite his improvements with the bat, and our tail is already long enough.
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@nzzp I agree, it was a pity Kohli wasn't here for the full tour. But things may have panned out differently if he was - he definitely adds an edge to the team with his leadership and expectations around performing. Still a wee bit salty we didn't fire many shots against them in the ODI's, but that's on us and India put us under a lot of pressure.
Fark I thought last night was going to one of those snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!
Question, is Seifert showing enough to be considered on his batting alone? I've heard a few pundits rate his keeping, but he seems pretty bloody raw and that'll surely hold him back longer term?
@Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India:
Question, is Seifert showing enough to be considered on his batting alone? I've heard a few pundits rate his keeping, but he seems pretty bloody raw and that'll surely hold him back longer term?
Definitely. He along with Will Young I would rate as the 2 best all-round batsmen in NZ not currently in the NZ test team (or ODI team). His FC batting is really quite good. His white ball batting is surprisingly not as good as his FC batting, yet. But, with his fast hands, once he masters white ball batting - he'll be very good. But I wouldn't bank on him being a world cup saviour at the last minute. It would be a hail mary. His history has actually shown him to be a slow adjuster as he moves up the levels. (He was the best player of his age group, and a schoolboy star but stunk for NZ U19s, he was initally was poor for ND, he was initially only OKish for NZ).
Seifert has had a lot of roles at ND. keeper, specialist middle order bat. Even opened in both red-ball and white-ball. His early career was fairly medioce though, especially for a guy with his reputation coming through youth cricket.
I really started to take notice of him finally delivering on potential on an NZA tour of India about 2 years ago. It was a batting apocalypse in spinning conditions for NZ but Seifert was the only one to perform (albit "performed" on that tour meant being 30 or 40 not out while all around him collapsed). No video of that tour though, just scorecards.
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@nzzp said in Black Caps v India:
Was reflecting over the weekend how enjoyable this Indian tour here has been. I've probably enjoyed it more than most other tours - despite the fact that they have outclassed us on a number of occasions. They have done it playing good cricket without being absolute muppets.
Their fans are sensational, just love cricket and seeing their heroes (MS Dhoni at Eden Park anyone?) the atmospheres at the grounds have been as good as you get, and it's been thoroughly enjoyable.
So, all in all, thanks India and come back soon. Was good fun.
I agree. And yeah the atmosphere was incredible at Eden Park. Was deafening when Dhoni walked out.
I think we learnt a lot from this tour, far more beneficial than just smashing Sri Lanka and the Bangles.
We still have a problem finding Guppy a partner. Munro confirmed what we all knew, that he will smack the shit teams but get found out against the better sides, which doesn't help us win a WC. Seifert showed some potential in the T20s, but that is a completely different ballgame to ODIs.
We have some depth in the bowling stocks, and I hope Henry's performances has secured him the new ball alongside Boult. Ferguson was up and down, but his extra pace can be a real point of difference against the middle/lower order.
Latham showed good form in the middle order so should stay there, Nicholls showed promise opening and is probably worth a shot to avoid exposing Kane too early against the new ball.
Neesh showed his class with the bat, but not so much the ball.
Based on this tour my A-team would be:
- Guptill
- Nicholls
- Williamson
- Taylor
- Latham
- Neesham
- CdG
- Santner
- Henry
- Ferguson
- Boult
I think 7 is the biggest question mark. Anderson would fill that gap but can't seem to stay fit. CdG found a bit of form in the T20s so is probably still the best bet there. Probably a bit high for the likes of Bracewell despite his improvements with the bat, and our tail is already long enough.
@No-Quarter I like that line up. I hope Ish makes the squad over Astle as I feel the latter is nowhere near as threatening with the ball, but definitely has the edge with batting. But even then I wouldn't expect them to get much game time.
Maybe there needs to be pressure on Kane to add a few overs of spin alongside Santer so we have two spin options in our top 11. Surely (surely!) English conditions aren't going to be overly spin friendly... unless you have a legit international quality spinner... which we don't.
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@mikedogz said in Black Caps v India:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12202477
I remember he got 50 odd batting at 11. He's no fucken Chris Martin that's for sure.
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@mikedogz said in Black Caps v India:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12202477
I remember he got 50 odd batting at 11. He's no fucken Chris Martin that's for sure.
Boult is just a fucking great guy. He tries to always play at least one game for his club every year.
Last season it was against Tga Boys College. Magic experience for those lads. This year a century against Te Puke
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@mikedogz said in Black Caps v India:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12202477
I remember he got 50 odd batting at 11. He's no fucken Chris Martin that's for sure.
Boult is just a fucking great guy. He tries to always play at least one game for his club every year.
Last season it was against Tga Boys College. Magic experience for those lads. This year a century against Te Puke
@Baron-Silas-Greenback that is really cool. Hadn't heard that before... which makes it even cooler as I bet he isn't interested in telling people about it. Fark, you'd be equal parts excited and terrified facing him!
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That was a ripper of a game of cricket, i really enjoyed it. Shit day to be a bowler though.
That said, Yadav was fucking fun to watch, it's an impressive bag of tricks he's got. Poor old Hard Dick, some muppet drops an absolute sitter. He get's smoked for 6. Then has a the batsman tangled with a short one, and it still goes for 4. No wonder he gave that yell when he took the catch.
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Trent Boult's ton which is sure to elevate him to opening in the ODIs
https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/trent-boult-slams-unbeaten-century-in-club-game-2031131.html
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback that is really cool. Hadn't heard that before... which makes it even cooler as I bet he isn't interested in telling people about it. Fark, you'd be equal parts excited and terrified facing him!
@Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback that is really cool. Hadn't heard that before... which makes it even cooler as I bet he isn't interested in telling people about it. Fark, you'd be equal parts excited and terrified facing him!
Safe to say at club level he bowls within himself and bats above himself....
...unless some little snot smashes him through covers for 4.. then he becomes a fast bowler again... -
@Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback that is really cool. Hadn't heard that before... which makes it even cooler as I bet he isn't interested in telling people about it. Fark, you'd be equal parts excited and terrified facing him!
Safe to say at club level he bowls within himself and bats above himself....
...unless some little snot smashes him through covers for 4.. then he becomes a fast bowler again...@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback that is really cool. Hadn't heard that before... which makes it even cooler as I bet he isn't interested in telling people about it. Fark, you'd be equal parts excited and terrified facing him!
Safe to say at club level he bowls within himself and bats above himself....
...unless some little snot smashes him through covers for 4.. then he becomes a fast bowler again...I've often wondered how I woulda have gone bowling to Chris Martin at his best.
Knowing my skills I'd probably make him look like Bradman.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback that is really cool. Hadn't heard that before... which makes it even cooler as I bet he isn't interested in telling people about it. Fark, you'd be equal parts excited and terrified facing him!
Safe to say at club level he bowls within himself and bats above himself....
...unless some little snot smashes him through covers for 4.. then he becomes a fast bowler again...I've often wondered how I woulda have gone bowling to Chris Martin at his best.
Knowing my skills I'd probably make him look like Bradman.
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback that is really cool. Hadn't heard that before... which makes it even cooler as I bet he isn't interested in telling people about it. Fark, you'd be equal parts excited and terrified facing him!
Safe to say at club level he bowls within himself and bats above himself....
...unless some little snot smashes him through covers for 4.. then he becomes a fast bowler again...I've often wondered how I woulda have gone bowling to Chris Martin at his best.
Knowing my skills I'd probably make him look like Bradman.
I can tell you thing.. Boult will be STOKED to get a century on the clubs honor board...
When you are international player you don't get to brag really about your international accomplishments.. otherwise you are a fucking knob. But at club level trashing your club mates and pointing to your century on the honors boards is a rite of passage. -
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback that is really cool. Hadn't heard that before... which makes it even cooler as I bet he isn't interested in telling people about it. Fark, you'd be equal parts excited and terrified facing him!
Safe to say at club level he bowls within himself and bats above himself....
...unless some little snot smashes him through covers for 4.. then he becomes a fast bowler again...I've often wondered how I woulda have gone bowling to Chris Martin at his best.
Knowing my skills I'd probably make him look like Bradman.
I can tell you thing.. Boult will be STOKED to get a century on the clubs honor board...
When you are international player you don't get to brag really about your international accomplishments.. otherwise you are a fucking knob. But at club level trashing your club mates and pointing to your century on the honors boards is a rite of passage.@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback that is really cool. Hadn't heard that before... which makes it even cooler as I bet he isn't interested in telling people about it. Fark, you'd be equal parts excited and terrified facing him!
Safe to say at club level he bowls within himself and bats above himself....
...unless some little snot smashes him through covers for 4.. then he becomes a fast bowler again...I've often wondered how I woulda have gone bowling to Chris Martin at his best.
Knowing my skills I'd probably make him look like Bradman.
I can tell you thing.. Boult will be STOKED to get a century on the clubs honor board...
When you are international player you don't get to brag really about your international accomplishments.. otherwise you are a fucking knob. But at club level trashing your club mates and pointing to your century on the honors boards is a rite of passage.Ewen Chatfield never even managed a 50 at club level and has just recently retired however his innings against Pakistan with Coney surely beats anything Boult has ever done ( so far )
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback that is really cool. Hadn't heard that before... which makes it even cooler as I bet he isn't interested in telling people about it. Fark, you'd be equal parts excited and terrified facing him!
Safe to say at club level he bowls within himself and bats above himself....
...unless some little snot smashes him through covers for 4.. then he becomes a fast bowler again...I've often wondered how I woulda have gone bowling to Chris Martin at his best.
Knowing my skills I'd probably make him look like Bradman.
I can tell you thing.. Boult will be STOKED to get a century on the clubs honor board...
When you are international player you don't get to brag really about your international accomplishments.. otherwise you are a fucking knob. But at club level trashing your club mates and pointing to your century on the honors boards is a rite of passage.Ewen Chatfield never even managed a 50 at club level and has just recently retired however his innings against Pakistan with Coney surely beats anything Boult has ever done ( so far )
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback that is really cool. Hadn't heard that before... which makes it even cooler as I bet he isn't interested in telling people about it. Fark, you'd be equal parts excited and terrified facing him!
Safe to say at club level he bowls within himself and bats above himself....
...unless some little snot smashes him through covers for 4.. then he becomes a fast bowler again...I've often wondered how I woulda have gone bowling to Chris Martin at his best.
Knowing my skills I'd probably make him look like Bradman.
I can tell you thing.. Boult will be STOKED to get a century on the clubs honor board...
When you are international player you don't get to brag really about your international accomplishments.. otherwise you are a fucking knob. But at club level trashing your club mates and pointing to your century on the honors boards is a rite of passage.Ewen Chatfield never even managed a 50 at club level and has just recently retired however his innings against Pakistan with Coney surely beats anything Boult has ever done ( so far )
That was epic. And Charlie had to battle his own demons after swallowing his tongue after being hit in the head in the pre-helmet wearing era
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback that is really cool. Hadn't heard that before... which makes it even cooler as I bet he isn't interested in telling people about it. Fark, you'd be equal parts excited and terrified facing him!
Safe to say at club level he bowls within himself and bats above himself....
...unless some little snot smashes him through covers for 4.. then he becomes a fast bowler again...I've often wondered how I woulda have gone bowling to Chris Martin at his best.
Knowing my skills I'd probably make him look like Bradman.
I can tell you thing.. Boult will be STOKED to get a century on the clubs honor board...
When you are international player you don't get to brag really about your international accomplishments.. otherwise you are a fucking knob. But at club level trashing your club mates and pointing to your century on the honors boards is a rite of passage.Ewen Chatfield never even managed a 50 at club level and has just recently retired however his innings against Pakistan with Coney surely beats anything Boult has ever done ( so far )
That was epic. And Charlie had to battle his own demons after swallowing his tongue after being hit in the head in the pre-helmet wearing era
@canefan said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:
@Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback that is really cool. Hadn't heard that before... which makes it even cooler as I bet he isn't interested in telling people about it. Fark, you'd be equal parts excited and terrified facing him!
Safe to say at club level he bowls within himself and bats above himself....
...unless some little snot smashes him through covers for 4.. then he becomes a fast bowler again...I've often wondered how I woulda have gone bowling to Chris Martin at his best.
Knowing my skills I'd probably make him look like Bradman.
I can tell you thing.. Boult will be STOKED to get a century on the clubs honor board...
When you are international player you don't get to brag really about your international accomplishments.. otherwise you are a fucking knob. But at club level trashing your club mates and pointing to your century on the honors boards is a rite of passage.Ewen Chatfield never even managed a 50 at club level and has just recently retired however his innings against Pakistan with Coney surely beats anything Boult has ever done ( so far )
That was epic. And Charlie had to battle his own demons after swallowing his tongue after being hit in the head in the pre-helmet wearing era
Happened prior to me being into cricket so I don't remember it but in the context of the game it's probably the most important 21 not out of all time. Apparently he faced more balls than Coney did.
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Good win but you have to question Kane's captaincy. Sodhi and Santner had just been smashed for four sixes over two consecutive overs and he decides to give Sodhi another over which results in 16 runs being scored. Then he doesn't bowl out Mitchell who had bowled three high quality overs in a row but goes for Southee instead who hadn't bowled since his first spell.
