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I'm going to be giffing all over this place now if that works
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@RLx31 you leave to fight for a cause that is against 'your country', you lose your rights as a citizen of that country, seems pretty simple.
Simple and wrong. I don't agree that people should be made stateless. Besides, what if you're fighting the "good fight"?
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@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@RLx31 you leave to fight for a cause that is against 'your country', you lose your rights as a citizen of that country, seems pretty simple.Simple and wrong. I don't agree that people should be made stateless. Besides, what if you're fighting the "good fight"?
Yeah, I was thinking that, what if someone left to fight for a pro Assad militia against ISIS - they're fighting for the 'enemy' against the other 'enemy'.
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@Nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@RLx31 you leave to fight for a cause that is against 'your country', you lose your rights as a citizen of that country, seems pretty simple.Simple and wrong. I don't agree that people should be made stateless. Besides, what if you're fighting the "good fight"?
Yeah, I was thinking that, what if someone left to fight for a pro Assad militia against ISIS - they're fighting for the 'enemy' against the other 'enemy'.
What part of "against your country" was so hard to grasp there?
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@RLx31 you leave to fight for a cause that is against 'your country', you lose your rights as a citizen of that country, seems pretty simple.Simple and wrong. I don't agree that people should be made stateless. Besides, what if you're fighting the "good fight"?
Yeah, I was thinking that, what if someone left to fight for a pro Assad militia against ISIS - they're fighting for the 'enemy' against the other 'enemy'.
What part of "against your country" was so hard to grasp there?
Lack of attention to detail. That's the Fern!
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@Nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@RLx31 you leave to fight for a cause that is against 'your country', you lose your rights as a citizen of that country, seems pretty simple.Simple and wrong. I don't agree that people should be made stateless. Besides, what if you're fighting the "good fight"?
Yeah, I was thinking that, what if someone left to fight for a pro Assad militia against ISIS - they're fighting for the 'enemy' against the other 'enemy'.
I'd suggest that if they wanted to make a difference for their own country (UK for example) they join the forces here instead. If their interests are not in favour of their own country and supporting whichever enemy then they don't belong here.
I really believe that the UK needs too be brave and make this decision, we've been to flimsy for too long and maybe some shocking decisions need to be made now for the greater good of their own citizens who aren't running off joining terrorist groups.
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@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@RLx31 you leave to fight for a cause that is against 'your country', you lose your rights as a citizen of that country, seems pretty simple.Simple and wrong. I don't agree that people should be made stateless. Besides, what if you're fighting the "good fight"?
Against your own country? That makes no sense.
The only alternative IMO is to let her come back in and spend life in prison for Treason.
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@Kirwan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@RLx31 you leave to fight for a cause that is against 'your country', you lose your rights as a citizen of that country, seems pretty simple.Simple and wrong. I don't agree that people should be made stateless. Besides, what if you're fighting the "good fight"?
Against your own country? That makes no sense.
The only alternative IMO is to let her come back in and spend life in prison for Treason.
No. She shouldn't be given the opportunity to radicalise inmates or waste our resources, let's face it she'd be in luxury compared to where she is now.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@RLx31 you leave to fight for a cause that is against 'your country', you lose your rights as a citizen of that country, seems pretty simple.Simple and wrong. I don't agree that people should be made stateless. Besides, what if you're fighting the "good fight"?
Yeah, I was thinking that, what if someone left to fight for a pro Assad militia against ISIS - they're fighting for the 'enemy' against the other 'enemy'.
What part of "against your country" was so hard to grasp there?
I only read @antipodean's post and responded to the "good fight" question so didn't try to grasp "against your country" at all.
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@RLx31 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@RLx31 you leave to fight for a cause that is against 'your country', you lose your rights as a citizen of that country, seems pretty simple.Simple and wrong. I don't agree that people should be made stateless. Besides, what if you're fighting the "good fight"?
Yeah, I was thinking that, what if someone left to fight for a pro Assad militia against ISIS - they're fighting for the 'enemy' against the other 'enemy'.
I'd suggest that if they wanted to make a difference for their own country (UK for example) they join the forces here instead. If their interests are not in favour of their own country and supporting whichever enemy then they don't belong here.
I really believe that the UK needs too be brave and make this decision, we've been to flimsy for too long and maybe some shocking decisions need to be made now for the greater good of their own citizens who aren't running off joining terrorist groups.
The US look to try to be in step with the UK on this
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@RLx31 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@RLx31 you leave to fight for a cause that is against 'your country', you lose your rights as a citizen of that country, seems pretty simple.Simple and wrong. I don't agree that people should be made stateless. Besides, what if you're fighting the "good fight"?
Yeah, I was thinking that, what if someone left to fight for a pro Assad militia against ISIS - they're fighting for the 'enemy' against the other 'enemy'.
I'd suggest that if they wanted to make a difference for their own country (UK for example) they join the forces here instead. If their interests are not in favour of their own country and supporting whichever enemy then they don't belong here.
I really believe that the UK needs too be brave and make this decision, we've been to flimsy for too long and maybe some shocking decisions need to be made now for the greater good of their own citizens who aren't running off joining terrorist groups.
The US look to try to be in step with the UK on this
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@RLx31 Enjoy it mate. I'm sure you will calm down in time
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@canefan Got it out of my system, I will gif responsibly. Fernies not fans of GIFs ay??
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@RLx31 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan Got it out of my system, I will gif responsibly. Fernies not fans of GIFs ay??
Nah it's all good. Just not on the politicos threads. Only adult behaviour allowed!!
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@RLx31 you leave to fight for a cause that is against 'your country', you lose your rights as a citizen of that country, seems pretty simple.Simple and wrong. I don't agree that people should be made stateless. Besides, what if you're fighting the "good fight"?
Yeah, I was thinking that, what if someone left to fight for a pro Assad militia against ISIS - they're fighting for the 'enemy' against the other 'enemy'.
What part of "against your country" was so hard to grasp there?
I'll give you a clue; Saefkow-Jacob-Bästlein Organization, Ehrenfeld Group, Free France, Resistance, etc.
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@Kirwan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
The only alternative IMO is to let her come back in and spend life in prison for Treason.
I'd be happy with that. Charge her with a relevant crime and act like a civilised society.
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@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@RLx31 you leave to fight for a cause that is against 'your country', you lose your rights as a citizen of that country, seems pretty simple.Simple and wrong. I don't agree that people should be made stateless. Besides, what if you're fighting the "good fight"?
Yeah, I was thinking that, what if someone left to fight for a pro Assad militia against ISIS - they're fighting for the 'enemy' against the other 'enemy'.
What part of "against your country" was so hard to grasp there?
I'll give you a clue; Saefkow-Jacob-Bästlein Organization, Ehrenfeld Group, Free France, Resistance, etc.
Erm, how does that relate to fighting for Assad against ISIS? At any rate it's a bit strange to compare resistance groups in dictatorships and occupied countries with stable western democracies.
