Reason and Tuipulotu
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@Toddy said in Reason and Tuipulotu:
@jegga nah, it's still there
Thanks for sparing me giving Stuff some clicks.
Apparently a lot of news outlets didn’t take earlier articles about Covington even after the truth became known which will do doubt be mentioned in the lawsuits. -
Any more whispers about this? Or don’t the Players Assocation and the NZRU give a shit about their players being slandered?
@Kirwan said in Reason and Tuipulotu:
Any more whispers about this? Or don’t the Players Assocation and the NZRU give a shit about their players being slandered?
Did anyone make a complaint to the paper first - after that you can go to the Press Council (or whatever it's called).
Something should come of this. It's lazy, sloppy or cynical journalism, and most of them should cost someone
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There could also be a bit of truth to the story. Though you'd think that would be worth its own standalone article, rather than being tucked away in a bigger article.
@Toddy said in Reason and Tuipulotu:
There could also be a bit of truth to the story. Though you'd think that would be worth its own standalone article, rather than being tucked away in a bigger article.
This post shows why there should be further action. Reason has smeared his reputation and got basic facts wrong.
Look further up on the reports at the time to see what actually happened.
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@Toddy said in Reason and Tuipulotu:
There could also be a bit of truth to the story. Though you'd think that would be worth its own standalone article, rather than being tucked away in a bigger article.
This post shows why there should be further action. Reason has smeared his reputation and got basic facts wrong.
Look further up on the reports at the time to see what actually happened.
@Kirwan absolutely. This was actually a legit nightmare case where the results were purely down to lab fuck ups. Only takes dickheads like Reason adding false info to keep it simmering away as a potential cover up etc. Not fair at all on Pat T. Really hope there is some legal action around this.
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@Toddy said in Reason and Tuipulotu:
There could also be a bit of truth to the story. Though you'd think that would be worth its own standalone article, rather than being tucked away in a bigger article.
This post shows why there should be further action. Reason has smeared his reputation and got basic facts wrong.
Look further up on the reports at the time to see what actually happened.
@Kirwan I have read those articles and I don't understand why Reason wasn't dragged over hot coals for it. That's what makes it weird. Stuff even put this disclaimer at the bottom of Reason's original opinion when this all kicked off in 2017
Note: This column was written before the result of Patrick Tuipulotu's B-sample test, which was negative and fully exonerated the All Black. Drug Free Sport NZ boss Graeme Steel described that scenario, whereby the A-sample is positive and the B-sample is negative, as a "one in 10,000" occurrence.
Yet they are happy to run one two years later smearing Tuipulotu.
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Maybe Tuipolotu just wants to get on with playing rugby and can't be bothered wasting time and energy on replying to Reason. I'd say the latter was hoping against all hope that the NZRU would issue a statement, giving Reason yet more publicity. He's probably disappointed by the silence.
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There could also be a bit of truth to the story. Though you'd think that would be worth its own standalone article, rather than being tucked away in a bigger article.
@Toddy said in Reason and Tuipulotu:
There could also be a bit of truth to the story. Though you'd think that would be worth its own standalone article, rather than being tucked away in a bigger article.
Yes. That’s my original point.
I hope that Reason is lying. I really do.
But what if he’s not? The first complaint said stuff backs him and his research. That should not be ignored.
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Maybe Tuipolotu just wants to get on with playing rugby and can't be bothered wasting time and energy on replying to Reason. I'd say the latter was hoping against all hope that the NZRU would issue a statement, giving Reason yet more publicity. He's probably disappointed by the silence.
@Billy-Tell said in Reason and Tuipulotu:
Maybe Tuipolotu just wants to get on with playing rugby and can't be bothered wasting time and energy on replying to Reason. I'd say the latter was hoping against all hope that the NZRU would issue a statement, giving Reason yet more publicity. He's probably disappointed by the silence.
Not a buyer at all. Never will be,
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@Toddy said in Reason and Tuipulotu:
There could also be a bit of truth to the story. Though you'd think that would be worth its own standalone article, rather than being tucked away in a bigger article.
Yes. That’s my original point.
I hope that Reason is lying. I really do.
But what if he’s not? The first complaint said stuff backs him and his research. That should not be ignored.
@MajorRage said in Reason and Tuipulotu:
@Toddy said in Reason and Tuipulotu:
There could also be a bit of truth to the story. Though you'd think that would be worth its own standalone article, rather than being tucked away in a bigger article.
Yes. That’s my original point.
I hope that Reason is lying. I really do.
But what if he’s not? The first complaint said stuff backs him and his research. That should not be ignored.
If he's not he should (would?) be writing a proper report and presenting his facts, not misrepresenting the known facts in an opinion column. If Stuff backs him and his research then they need to publish it.
Until he does (and they do) that there's no reason to believe any of his claims and it should be ignored.
