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    @Rapido said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

    As either Wagner or CdG can take up that old ball workhorse role and spare him too many overs in a day.

    Functionally Wagner is the holding spinner. He can bowl long spells, he can dry up runs, his wickets largely rely on attrition and repetitive accuracy.

    It's hardly going to be Fire in Babylon but I'd pick four quicks except on the sub-continent.

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    @rotated said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

    @Rapido said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

    As either Wagner or CdG can take up that old ball workhorse role and spare him too many overs in a day.

    Functionally Wagner is the holding spinner. He can bowl long spells, he can dry up runs, his wickets largely rely on attrition and repetitive accuracy.

    It's hardly going to be Fire in Babylon but I'd pick four quicks except on the sub-continent.

    Pretty much. Kane can roll the arm over if we need it, he's as good an option for a 5 over spell to give the bowlers as breather as anyone we have.

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    @Godder said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

    @rotated said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

    @Rapido said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

    As either Wagner or CdG can take up that old ball workhorse role and spare him too many overs in a day.

    Functionally Wagner is the holding spinner. He can bowl long spells, he can dry up runs, his wickets largely rely on attrition and repetitive accuracy.

    It's hardly going to be Fire in Babylon but I'd pick four quicks except on the sub-continent.

    Pretty much. Kane can roll the arm over if we need it, he's as good an option for a 5 over spell to give the bowlers as breather as anyone we have.

    Indeed. Not sure why the little master doesn't use himself more. He just about spun us to victory in 2012 against England...he's no mug.

    Edit: just googled him for his bowling record and see his batting is a sensational 53.20.....brilliant stuff.

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    @rotated said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

    @Rapido said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

    As either Wagner or CdG can take up that old ball workhorse role and spare him too many overs in a day.

    Functionally Wagner is the holding spinner. He can bowl long spells, he can dry up runs, his wickets largely rely on attrition and repetitive accuracy.

    It's hardly going to be Fire in Babylon but I'd pick four quicks except on the sub-continent.

    I don't think Wagner can dry up runs. He has the highest RPO of any of our seamers, and almost half a run more than Santner, and well over half a run more than CDG.

    He is prone to cop a hiding, but will generally pick up wickets too. His cheaper spells come when batsmen are looking to bat time and can just get out of the line or duck under him or day long, and he ceases to be a wicket taking threat.

    He's definitely the workhorse of the attack though but needs someone at the other end building pressure. CDG is quite a good foil for him because he's quite tight.

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    Williamson's bowling.

    Pre-chucking ban: 40 matches, 29 wickets at 40.10

    Since return to bowling after action remediated: 37 matches, 5 wickets at 37.40

    He just doesn't bowl himself much anymore. Whether that's because he doesn't trust his action, doesn't rate his own bowling anymore, or he just has too much on his plate as captain. Or the seamers are getting the job done. I don't know. Often his specialist spinner is underbowled, let alone bowling himself.

    His post chucking stats aren't bad. But they are sparse. He bowled just 7 overs in 2018, and 7 in 2017.

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    Top Batting Averages since the start of 2014 for players with over 30 tests

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=30;qualval1=matches;spanmin1=1+jan+2014;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

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    @KiwiPie said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

    Top Batting Averages since the start of 2014 for players with over 30 tests

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=30;qualval1=matches;spanmin1=1+jan+2014;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

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    I read some article years ago about Smith, KW, Root and Kohli being the young future stars of batting in the coming years. eerie how accurate it is given those rankings....

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    @KiwiPie said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

    Top Batting Averages since the start of 2014 for players with over 30 tests

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=30;qualval1=matches;spanmin1=1+jan+2014;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

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    Joe Root need to improve his conversion rate. Makes it to 50 a heap of times but struggles to push to 100.
    Still a reasonable rate, not saying he’s Stephen Fleming..

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    @KiwiPie said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

    Top Batting Averages since the start of 2014 for players with over 30 tests

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=30;qualval1=matches;spanmin1=1+jan+2014;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

    6688585e-5aeb-48b5-9a1f-46c7e5cd8444-image.png

    And in Henry Nicholls (who is just above Latham if you drop the qualifier to 20 tests) and the argument for this being our best batting line up ever looks pretty solid.

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    @Cyclops said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

    @KiwiPie said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

    Top Batting Averages since the start of 2014 for players with over 30 tests

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=30;qualval1=matches;spanmin1=1+jan+2014;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

    6688585e-5aeb-48b5-9a1f-46c7e5cd8444-image.png

    And in Henry Nicholls (who is just above Latham if you drop the qualifier to 20 tests) and the argument for this being our best batting line up ever looks pretty solid.

    no argument. I thought the fern settled that around January....even more compelling with Raval getting a ton...

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