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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    One only needs to have seen the team wide displays of incompetence in those games to determine the losses were a team issue.

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      Machpants
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      #954

      That's like a news thump article headline. The wallabies haven't been consistent for years, and look at England just recently in the 6N, reckon they threw that by stupidly sticking with a failing tactic after building up massive odds vs Ireland and France?

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        You would need a lot of players on the take for it to work gaurenteed surely. The Aussie players are also fairly well renumerated. Teams are also often changed and players are injured etc.

        For a betting co-op to make massive bets they would want to be bloody confident of the ability of said players to fix the game.

        I just think it would be too hard and risky to do. Also wouldnt the coach sub any players that were obviously having a shocker.

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          If they are going to look back and investigate every shock loss or displays of ineptitude they will be still conducting this investigation in 2024..

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            This reminds me of the match fixing allegations levelled at the black caps . If you can tell when they are faking being shit you should be doing video analysis for the abs .

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              #958

              https://twitter.com/rugbycomau/status/1103759842844401664

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              • barbarianB Offline
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                It's Greg Growden writing the article remember. He's a moron.

                Match fixing is not something you just lazily throw out there like this, with no detail at all. He's just smeared a great number of Wallabies with no real evidence other than the fact that someone was mates with a bookie and another person was vaguely suspicious.

                You uncover these things because there is a late plunge by a number of punters on a specific market, and it's then reported by the bookies. That's what happened when Ryan Tandy was pinged by the NRL.

                I'd be pretty furious if I was RA. This is the type of allegation you make after a months-long investigation, where you then name specific games, dates, players and associates.

                In true Growden fashion he's just tossed it out that it might have happened, but won't tell us where or when.

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                • barbarianB barbarian

                  It's Greg Growden writing the article remember. He's a moron.

                  Match fixing is not something you just lazily throw out there like this, with no detail at all. He's just smeared a great number of Wallabies with no real evidence other than the fact that someone was mates with a bookie and another person was vaguely suspicious.

                  You uncover these things because there is a late plunge by a number of punters on a specific market, and it's then reported by the bookies. That's what happened when Ryan Tandy was pinged by the NRL.

                  I'd be pretty furious if I was RA. This is the type of allegation you make after a months-long investigation, where you then name specific games, dates, players and associates.

                  In true Growden fashion he's just tossed it out that it might have happened, but won't tell us where or when.

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                  #960

                  @barbarian he's such a fucking cock. There's a reason he blocks so many people on Twitter - they call him on his bullshit. No idea if ESPN is getting the clicks they want, but they wouldn't want to be paying him much.

                  EDIT: Hang on a minute, this is attributed to a Greg Growden listed as "...a rugby columnist for The Sydney Morning Herald"

                  When did THAT happen?

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                    @barbarian he's such a fucking cock. There's a reason he blocks so many people on Twitter - they call him on his bullshit. No idea if ESPN is getting the clicks they want, but they wouldn't want to be paying him much.

                    EDIT: Hang on a minute, this is attributed to a Greg Growden listed as "...a rugby columnist for The Sydney Morning Herald"

                    When did THAT happen?

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                    #961

                    @NTA About a month ago. Fucking outrageous he's back on the payroll there, even if it's only for his Friday article.

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                    • barbarianB barbarian

                      @NTA About a month ago. Fucking outrageous he's back on the payroll there, even if it's only for his Friday article.

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                      @barbarian All the facepalms.

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                        #963

                        Some errors are glaring. It's like watching Tiger Woods miss a two-inch putt, over and over again. Very odd

                        dont agree with the analogy provided in the article (also quoted by Rotated) as the only thing close to that would be if the kicker had numerous kicks from right out in front, and missed them all.

                        Dropping a ball, throwing a forward pass, missing a tackle, kick for touch are unfortunately simple errors that happen to every player, with numerous variables including the weather, other players, the shape of the ball the pace and nature of the game means these are inevitable.

                        IMO unless you have a whole team on board, you will struggle, but even then, I'd wager it woudl look so blatantly obvious something was up too.

                        I mean watch practically any movie where they 'act' that they are playing rugby, it looks so fake, and these are supposedly professional actors, whereas a professional rugby player deliberately dropping a ball, fluffing a kick, throw, missing a tackle on purpose, IMO would be easy to spot.

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                          #964

                          Dave Rennie to coach the Wannabes?

                          https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/rennie-the-name-on-northern-hemisphere-lips-for-wallabies-job-20190317-p514w1.html

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                            Dave Rennie to coach the Wannabes?

                            https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/rennie-the-name-on-northern-hemisphere-lips-for-wallabies-job-20190317-p514w1.html

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                            @sparky That was an interesting read.

                            But it comes down to this: even though he's different to Deans, the same issue - Australian players being up themselves - applies.

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                              FoxSports asked Facebook users what questions they wanted put to Chieka:

                              https://www.facebook.com/182241841811321/posts/2130062737029212/

                              E.g. What other traits, besides being a warratah do you look for in future wallaby players?

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                                #967

                                Not sure if this is the right thread but I was discussing with a mate earlier today about the quality depth Australian Rugby is starting to grow in their backs. A good mix of experience and young guns looking likely for the WC squad.

                                The likes of Banks, Maddocks, Petaia, Kerevi and the recent return of Magnay provides a solid foundation for them going forward. The likes of Maddocks & Petaia could end up being Wallabie greats if they have fairly injury free careers and obviously stay in Aus.

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                                  #968

                                  That young Reds halfback McDermott looks a talent.

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    Not sure if this is the right thread but I was discussing with a mate earlier today about the quality depth Australian Rugby is starting to grow in their backs. A good mix of experience and young guns looking likely for the WC squad.

                                    The likes of Banks, Maddocks, Petaia, Kerevi and the recent return of Magnay provides a solid foundation for them going forward. The likes of Maddocks & Petaia could end up being Wallabie greats if they have fairly injury free careers and obviously stay in Aus.

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                                    @Canes4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                    Not sure if this is the right thread but I was discussing with a mate earlier today about the quality depth Australian Rugby is starting to grow in their backs. A good mix of experience and young guns looking likely for the WC squad.

                                    The likes of Banks, Maddocks, Petaia, Kerevi and the recent return of Magnay provides a solid foundation for them going forward. The likes of Maddocks & Petaia could end up being Wallabie greats if they have fairly injury free careers and obviously stay in Aus.

                                    If they can build the same potential in the f forwards...

                                    Forwards determine the result.
                                    Backs just determine the margin.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      That young Reds halfback McDermott looks a talent.

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                      That young Reds halfback McDermott looks a talent.

                                      I was quite impressed with him the other night. Crisp, accurate pass. Good option taking, directs the big blokes around, and (unlike Genia) isn't a mouthy little bitch

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                                        Thinking out loud:

                                        1 Slipper
                                        2 Fitzpatrick
                                        3 ? Alaalatoa maybe
                                        4 Rodda
                                        5 Coleman
                                        6 Dempsey
                                        7 Pocock
                                        8 Naisarani
                                        9 McDermott
                                        10 Lealiifano
                                        11 Koroibete
                                        12 Kerevi
                                        13 Kuridrani
                                        14 Maddocks
                                        15 Folau

                                        16 Rangi
                                        17 Sio
                                        18 Tupou
                                        19 Staniforth
                                        20 Hooper
                                        21 Genia
                                        22 Beale
                                        23 Meakes

                                        But thankfully there are a few players actually putting their hand up.

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                                          Yeahtheboys
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                                          That a pisstake team or what

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