Chiefs 2019
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The dangers of looking ahead at the draw. Looks like being an official Hide Behind the Couch fortnight for Chiefs fans...
@Donsteppa would not have picked a 0-5 start, but yeah the next two weeks will be tough going. Mind you the Canes usually struggle in Waikato for some reason.
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Interesting tidbit from Mils on the shortball podcast:
Colin Cooper doesn't coach, he operates as an overall manager. Two of the other coaches are covering two roles each.
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@gt12 said in Chiefs 2019:
@Tim Christ, no wonder they are so poor. Why are we paying him? He's no Eddie Jones.
Coaching/training/managing ..... doesn’t really matter. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
Ever watch an ABs session? It’s not like Shag is packing down with the boys.
Much of the work is in the classroom these days. -
@gt12 said in Chiefs 2019:
@Tim Christ, no wonder they are so poor. Why are we paying him? He's no Eddie Jones.
Coaching/training/managing ..... doesn’t really matter. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
Ever watch an ABs session? It’s not like Shag is packing down with the boys.
Much of the work is in the classroom these days. -
All good points, except the team clearly needs coaching, training, and managing - none of which Cooper seems capable of. Selecting too, something else he sucks at.
@gt12 said in Chiefs 2019:
All good points, except the team clearly needs coaching, training, and managing - none of which Cooper seems capable of. Selecting too, something else he sucks at.
Tbf he has had one hand tied behind his back with injuries and rest requirements. I’ll give him a little latitude in that area.
The bit I don’t get is them playing with fuck all attitude even to celebrate BBBRs 100.
It’s like they have been calmed down too much -
@gt12 said in Chiefs 2019:
@Tim Christ, no wonder they are so poor. Why are we paying him? He's no Eddie Jones.
Coaching/training/managing ..... doesn’t really matter. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
Ever watch an ABs session? It’s not like Shag is packing down with the boys.
Much of the work is in the classroom these days.@Crucial said in Chiefs 2019:
@gt12 said in Chiefs 2019:
@Tim Christ, no wonder they are so poor. Why are we paying him? He's no Eddie Jones.
Coaching/training/managing ..... doesn’t really matter. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
Ever watch an ABs session? It’s not like Shag is packing down with the boys.
Much of the work is in the classroom these days.Is that the Steve that requested we see Ioane play left wing against the Lions?
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Tyler Ardron has re-signed with the Chiefs for 2 more years (2021).
@Stargazer Stoked about this signing. Great player. Met him last weekend at the game, pretty wholesome dude.
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@gt12 said in Chiefs 2019:
All good points, except the team clearly needs coaching, training, and managing - none of which Cooper seems capable of. Selecting too, something else he sucks at.
Tbf he has had one hand tied behind his back with injuries and rest requirements. I’ll give him a little latitude in that area.
The bit I don’t get is them playing with fuck all attitude even to celebrate BBBRs 100.
It’s like they have been calmed down too much@Crucial said in Chiefs 2019:
@gt12 said in Chiefs 2019:
All good points, except the team clearly needs coaching, training, and managing - none of which Cooper seems capable of. Selecting too, something else he sucks at.
Tbf he has had one hand tied behind his back with injuries and rest requirements. I’ll give him a little latitude in that area.
The bit I don’t get is them playing with fuck all attitude even to celebrate BBBRs 100.
It’s like they have been calmed down too muchCompared to the injury list this time last year he's practically got a full squad to pick from.
Agreed on the attitude - it's like they honoured BBBR's 100th by taking a nap for 80 minutes.
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@Donsteppa Booooooooooooooooooooo Get him off the stage!! Booooooooooooooooooooooooo
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I feel your frustration, he was Canes coach for far too long and always looked like a deer in headlights - similar to how the Chiefs are playing atm.
He really needs to find his inner "Scott Robertson" and find a way to re-energise his team, otherwise, we may see him being cut before the season is out.
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FROM THE ARTICLE:
With that, the Chiefs have now coughed up a whopping 23 tries (six more than anyone else) and 171 points (48 more than anyone else) this season, which puts the blowtorch on defence coach Neil Barnes, following a change in coaching structure at the club for this year.
With Cooper this year in a more overseeing-type role, Barnes' previous job as forwards coach is now handled by Nick White - who replaced Carl Hoeft as scrum coach midway through last season. Tabai Matson is the attack coach, Roger Randle has this year been brought in as an assistant backs coach, and Andrew Strawbridge remains a skills coach.
Of those, White is probably the only one who shouldn't be worried about their job: Barnes is clearly not up to standard, Matson should be living on borrowed time, and what the fuck is Strawbridge spending his time doing? It's clearly not working. Plus, of course Cooper, who oversees this mess.
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Just in defense of Strawbridge, he's been there for a couple of years, and over the past couple i would have said the Chiefs were the most skilled team in NZ. Some of their catching and passing was superb.
This is just another area the 2019 team has dropped waaaay behind
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Just in defense of Strawbridge, he's been there for a couple of years, and over the past couple i would have said the Chiefs were the most skilled team in NZ. Some of their catching and passing was superb.
This is just another area the 2019 team has dropped waaaay behind
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I feel your frustration, he was Canes coach for far too long and always looked like a deer in headlights - similar to how the Chiefs are playing atm.
He really needs to find his inner "Scott Robertson" and find a way to re-energise his team, otherwise, we may see him being cut before the season is out.
@Canes4life said in Chiefs 2019:
I feel your frustration, he was Canes coach for far too long and always looked like a deer in headlights - similar to how the Chiefs are playing atm.
He really needs to find his inner "Scott Robertson" and find a way to re-energise his team, otherwise, we may see him being cut before the season is out.
I actually think Cooper was very good in the early part of his Canes stint, he was hamstrung at 10 but that team was really good with that limitation noted and they were competitive with the Crusaders in an era where they were totally dominant (much like they are this year). He stayed on too long at the Canes though.
I was actually fairly happy with his 2017 with the Chiefs, they played good rugby and made it to the finals with a horrendous injury toll. So a drop off of this much was unexpected despite what I considered a poor selection when the teams were named last year.
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New Zealand's famed coaching tree is providing more fruit to export markets than it is for the domestic consumer. I spent the weekend in Taranaki and there were some fairly loud rumblings that at least two of the Chiefs' coaching panel do not see eye-to-eye.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12211560
