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Chiefs 2019

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    @Tim

    I see. I agree that these competitions get the short-end sometimes, but I'm not as worried about it or at least what I want to say is that as long as the Abs keep winning, I have n problem with it. I'll happily have a winless Chiefs season if it ends up with the ABs winning the world cup.

    Right now though the Chiefs problems aren't, IMO, a problem of the ABs or treatment of teams by the NZRU - it's simpler than that - just shitty coaching and selecting.

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    @gt12 The problem is, that if the NZRU's stewardship of the sub-AB game stays like this, then you aren't going to have as many fans watching, and supporting the bottom line. There's a hell of a lot more non-AB viewing hours.

    Look at the North Shore - rugby's popularity has really slid there, despite a fast growing population. My and my friends' nephews and sons don't give a shit about rugby.

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      i beleive the cheifs have been trying to get another coach in to help with the defence.barnes did well with the forwards last year but is strugling with defence this year.
      i thought a canterbury poster here said that matson was shit and were happy to see the back of him.last year i thought we went backwards in our back play and this year is worse so if that poster looks to be corect

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        @gt12 The problem is, that if the NZRU's stewardship of the sub-AB game stays like this, then you aren't going to have as many fans watching, and supporting the bottom line. There's a hell of a lot more non-AB viewing hours.

        Look at the North Shore - rugby's popularity has really slid there, despite a fast growing population. My and my friends' nephews and sons don't give a shit about rugby.

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        @Tim

        I'm not completely disagreeing with your point - those competitions are important - only arguing that I don't see that as the problem here. I'm not being turned off the Chiefs right now because of NZRU, I'm being turned off because we plan like a team with no offensive nor defensive planning or systems. As @ploughboy has mentioned, that seems to be a coaching issue, and if we need help then that's where I'd be unhappy with the NZRU if they didn't step in and start throwing their weight around to get these players being developed.

        Certainly, so far, our back play and offense has been 'pass it to Dmac', so WTF Matson is doing, I don't know. Plus of course, our defense (Barnes), and our skills (Strawbridge)...

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          Chiefs Development team named to play a New Zealand Under 20 Selection XV in Palmerston North on Saturday:

          1 Shigure Takao (Kobelco Steelers)
          2 Donald Maka (Taranaki)
          3 Sue Asomua (Counties Manukau)
          4 Aaron Carroll (Bay of Plenty)
          5 Damon Leasuasu (Counties Manukau)
          6 Tom Florence (Taranaki)
          7 Jeriah Mua (Bay of Plenty)
          8 Pita Gus Sowakula (Taranaki)
          9 Ranieraa Takarangi (Waikato)
          10 Tom Jordan (Waikato)
          11 Valynce Te Whare Crosby (Waikato)
          12 Charlie Lawrence (Kobelco Steelers)
          13 Matt Garland (Bay of Plenty)
          14 Tomoyuki Ochiai (Kobelco Steelers)
          15 Tyler Campbell (Waikato)

          Reserves:
          16 Zuriel Togiamata (Counties Manukau)
          17 Haraiti Hetet (Waikato)
          18 Wesley Tapueluleu (Waikato)
          19 Zane Kapeli (Bay of Plenty)
          20 Quade Tapsell (Waikato)
          21 Gordie Lloyd (Bay of Plenty)
          22 Cortez Lee Ratima (Waikato)
          23 Issie Shige (Kobelco Steelers)
          24 Taniela Filimone (Bay of Plenty)
          25 Broc Hooper (Counties Manukau)

          Unavailable for selection due to injury or other commitments: Pisi Leilua (Counties Manukau), Brandon Mudzekenyedz (Waikato), Sekope Lopeti Moli (Waikato), John Inoue (Kobelco Steelers).

          Unavailable for selection due to NZU20 trials: Benet Kumeroa (Bay of Plenty)

          Kicking off at 12.00pm the Splice Construction Chiefs Development side will be bolstered with the inclusion of Gallagher Chiefs number eight Pita Gus Sowakula and the return of Counties Manukau tighthead prop Sue Asomua. Six players from the University of Waikato Chiefs Under 20’s team have also been included to take the field against the New Zealand Under 20 selection XV.
          
          Following two comfortable wins over the University of Waikato Chiefs Under 20’s and Blues Development the Splice Construction Chiefs Development side will be wanting to deliver another positive performance against the New Zealand Under 20’s Selection XV which will feature 17 University of Waikato Chiefs Under 20’s players. 
          

          https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/media-release-splice-construction-chiefs-development-named-to-play-nzu20s-selection-xv

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            Surely you cannot call this team the Chiefs Development Team when jersey numbers 1, 12, 14 and 22 are presumably not eligible to play for the Chiefs. They are not even listed with a New Zealand team affiliation for starters. Has someone slung a bit of money around to get them selected?

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            • HigginsH Higgins

              Surely you cannot call this team the Chiefs Development Team when jersey numbers 1, 12, 14 and 22 are presumably not eligible to play for the Chiefs. They are not even listed with a New Zealand team affiliation for starters. Has someone slung a bit of money around to get them selected?

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              @Higgins Both the Chiefs and - more recently - the Crusaders have special agreements with Japanese clubs. No idea what the status of these agreements is, but I assume that's why they are selecting a few of their players in the Chiefs Dev squad.

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                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/111333110/damian-mckenzie-another-to-be-given-permission-to-break-super-rugby-rest-rule

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                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/111397789/super-rugby-damian-mckenzie-poised-to-resume-at-fullback-when-chiefs-tackle-bulls

                  With former Melbourne Rebels pivot Jack Debreczeni available again after an illness that ruled him out last week, the Chiefs have a selection conundrum to solve ahead of announcing their team on Thursday night (NZ time).
                  
                  Debreczeni was set for his first Chiefs start against the Hurricanes but Marty McKenzie took his place alongside his younger brother, who looked like his electric self again after an indifferent spell at first-five.
                  
                  "Having a world class fullback at the back made a difference and we'll probably be looking to do that again," Matson said of All Black Damian McKenzie.
                  
                   Either Debreczeni or Marty McKenzie will start at first-five should Damian McKenzie, as expected, remain at fullback, while the Chiefs are further boosted by the return of outside back Solomon Alaimalo after recovering from a head knock.
                  
                  Matson said Alaimalo's availability was "critical" and he would be a likely starter to help combat the commanding kicking game of Bulls and Springboks first-five Handre Polland, who is the competition's leading points scorer with 74, which is 28 more than any other player.
                  
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                    Michael Allardice re-signed for the 2020 Super Rugby season.

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                      Chiefs Development team to play Blues A in Hamilton tomorrow (2.30pm, Beetham Park)

                      1 Chris Grawler (Taranaki)
                      2 Zuriel Tongiamata (Counties Manukau)
                      3 Jeff Thwaites (Bay of Plenty)
                      4 Laghlan McWhannell (Waikato)
                      5 Damon Leasuasu (Counties Manukau)
                      6 Tom Florence (Taranaki)
                      7 Jeriah Mua (Bay of Plenty)
                      8 Pita Gus Sowakula (Taranaki)
                      9 Jonathan Taumateine (Counties Manukau) (Captain)
                      10 Rivez Reihana (Waikato)
                      11 Brandon Mudzekenyedz (Waikato)
                      12 Quinn Tupaea (Waikato)
                      13 Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)
                      14 Mosese Dawai (Waikato)
                      15 Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs)

                      Reserves:
                      16 Donald Maka (Taranaki)
                      17 Sean Bagshaw (Counties Manukau)
                      18 Shigure Takao (Kobelco Steelers)
                      19 Sue Asomua (Counties Manukau)
                      20 Tupou Vaa’i (Taranaki)
                      21 Savelio Ropati (Counties Manukau)
                      22 Hugo Nankivell (Waikato)
                      23 Carlos Price (Waikato)
                      24 Charlie Lawrence (Kobelco Steelers)
                      25 Issie Shige (Kobelco Steelers)
                      26 Tomoyuli Ochiai (Kobelco Steelers)

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        Chiefs Development team to play Blues A in Hamilton tomorrow (2.30pm, Beetham Park)

                        1 Chris Grawler (Taranaki)
                        2 Zuriel Tongiamata (Counties Manukau)
                        3 Jeff Thwaites (Bay of Plenty)
                        4 Laghlan McWhannell (Waikato)
                        5 Damon Leasuasu (Counties Manukau)
                        6 Tom Florence (Taranaki)
                        7 Jeriah Mua (Bay of Plenty)
                        8 Pita Gus Sowakula (Taranaki)
                        9 Jonathan Taumateine (Counties Manukau) (Captain)
                        10 Rivez Reihana (Waikato)
                        11 Brandon Mudzekenyedz (Waikato)
                        12 Quinn Tupaea (Waikato)
                        13 Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)
                        14 Mosese Dawai (Waikato)
                        15 Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs)

                        Reserves:
                        16 Donald Maka (Taranaki)
                        17 Sean Bagshaw (Counties Manukau)
                        18 Shigure Takao (Kobelco Steelers)
                        19 Sue Asomua (Counties Manukau)
                        20 Tupou Vaa’i (Taranaki)
                        21 Savelio Ropati (Counties Manukau)
                        22 Hugo Nankivell (Waikato)
                        23 Carlos Price (Waikato)
                        24 Charlie Lawrence (Kobelco Steelers)
                        25 Issie Shige (Kobelco Steelers)
                        26 Tomoyuli Ochiai (Kobelco Steelers)

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                        @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2019:

                        Carlos Price (Waikato)

                        Interesting that he's moved north.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2019:

                          Carlos Price (Waikato)

                          Interesting that he's moved north.

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                          @Tim Yeah, I noticed he'd moved there a while ago. Hauiti-Parapara has leapfrogged him in the Canes pecking order; that could be a reason. Or he's studying at Waikato Uni?

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                            Chiefs Dev v Blues A: 17 - 29

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                              https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1114090357904543744

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                                https://twitter.com/NigelYalden/status/1115417523401383936

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                                  Geez, his shoulder, too?

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                                    Which begs the question. Who have the Chiefs got in the hutch as a 10?

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                                      Who’s that bloke that slotted that World Cup winning penalty?

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                                        Who’s that bloke that slotted that World Cup winning penalty?

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                                        @Yeahtheboys Dan Carter 😛

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                                          Nathan Harris has re-signed with NZR and the Chiefs for 2 more years (2021):

                                          Mobile hooker Nathan Harris has become the latest player to commit to New Zealand, extending his contract until 2021 with New Zealand Rugby and the Gallagher Chiefs.
                                          
                                          27-year-old Harris made his Investec Super Rugby and All Blacks debut in 2014 two years after his provincial debut for Bay of Plenty in 2016. He has played 20 Tests for the All Blacks, 51 games for the Gallagher Chiefs and 29 games for Bay of Plenty.
                                          
                                          Harris has played 16 of his 20 Tests in the last two seasons and All Blacks Head Coach Steve Hansen has welcomed the news of his re-commitment to New Zealand.
                                          
                                          “It’s great for the future of the All Blacks and the Chiefs to have someone of Nathan’s ability re-signing. He’s made the most of his time in our environment in the last couple of seasons, getting a number of Test caps, and is constantly working on the core aspects of his game, while also adding new skills.”
                                          

                                          https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/hooker-nathan-harris-extends-contract-with-new-zealand-rugby

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