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  • S Steven Harris

    @Duluth my spies are telling me that the Blues are currently involved in talks with Robbie Abel which is a good move in my opinion,very experienced at super level and good enough to push the Parsons project..I do like the idea of carrying a really good young promising hooker..
    Both Moulds and Apisai will be gone come seasons end.

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    @Steven-Harris if Blues are talking to Abel, then they’ve been turned down by their other options.

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      @Steven-Harris if Blues are talking to Abel, then they’ve been turned down by their other options.

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      @Northlandallday 😆 Man you really don't rate him, eh.

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      • TimT Tim

        @Northlandallday 😆 Man you really don't rate him, eh.

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        @Tim Abel’s good, it’s just not who I believe they were chasing.

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          @Tim Abel’s good, it’s just not who I believe they were chasing.

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          @Northlandallday So who are they chasing?

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            @taniwharugby
            Greg PT is back to playing post surgery recovery, so maybe he’s looking for a spot somewhere.
            Then again Olsen played really well when Moulds was injured so I’d be happy seeing him get the start and even captaincy, if required. But....... is he going to WC with Canada?

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            Daffy Jaffy
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            @Northlandallday Pleasants-Tate has just been named in the Southland Stags training squad.

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            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

              @Northlandallday Pleasants-Tate has just been named in the Southland Stags training squad.

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              Duluth
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              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2019:

              Pleasants-Tate has just been named in the Southland Stags training squad.

              That’s his 5th NPC side

              BOP, NH, Auckland, Canterbury & Southland

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2019:

                Pleasants-Tate has just been named in the Southland Stags training squad.

                That’s his 5th NPC side

                BOP, NH, Auckland, Canterbury & Southland

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                @Duluth said in Blues 2019:

                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2019:

                Pleasants-Tate has just been named in the Southland Stags training squad.

                That’s his 5th NPC side

                BOP, NH, Auckland, Canterbury & Southland

                Is he just searching for quality playing time?

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                  gt12
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                  Not so sure that I agree that getting rid of Tuipolotu is a good idea. But, the rest of the argument is interesting - given that it basically revolves around getting rid of Parsons 🙂

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-leon-macdonalds-new-system-at-the-blues-may-require-new-parts-to-reach-optimalisation?fbclid=IwAR1hm04ePNypk30gToGGLEcCQ6h6MvRNhXwa8c2jeBL0qLY90_hwR-nGvCE

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    Not so sure that I agree that getting rid of Tuipolotu is a good idea. But, the rest of the argument is interesting - given that it basically revolves around getting rid of Parsons 🙂

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-leon-macdonalds-new-system-at-the-blues-may-require-new-parts-to-reach-optimalisation?fbclid=IwAR1hm04ePNypk30gToGGLEcCQ6h6MvRNhXwa8c2jeBL0qLY90_hwR-nGvCE

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                    Tim
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                    #1561

                    @gt12 May also need to realign tactics to make better use of a big, ball carrying pack.

                    Would be interesting to see the difference that the high workrate of Scrafton makes. Also, playing combinations of Hodgman/OfaT and KarlT/Renata.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      @gt12 May also need to realign tactics to make better use of a big, ball carrying pack.

                      Would be interesting to see the difference that the high workrate of Scrafton makes. Also, playing combinations of Hodgman/OfaT and KarlT/Renata.

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                      @Tim Yep, essentially just saying that bringing in some structure (i.e., a bit of fucking coaching) can get them part way there. That's an improvement, but Panadol will also have to work out how to use some of the new pieces he has here, or he's no better than Hammett.

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        @Tim Yep, essentially just saying that bringing in some structure (i.e., a bit of fucking coaching) can get them part way there. That's an improvement, but Panadol will also have to work out how to use some of the new pieces he has here, or he's no better than Hammett.

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                        @gt12 Yep, especially when you consider that Auckland's forward pack (led by a huge game from Tuipulotu) really dominated Ta$man's last year, playing against that structure.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @gt12 Yep, especially when you consider that Auckland's forward pack (led by a huge game from Tuipulotu) really dominated Ta$man's last year, playing against that structure.

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                          @Tim I should add that the Auckland coaches also nailed the crucial "teach these fucking idiots how to set up options for exits" role too ...

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                          • gt12G gt12

                            Not so sure that I agree that getting rid of Tuipolotu is a good idea. But, the rest of the argument is interesting - given that it basically revolves around getting rid of Parsons 🙂

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-leon-macdonalds-new-system-at-the-blues-may-require-new-parts-to-reach-optimalisation?fbclid=IwAR1hm04ePNypk30gToGGLEcCQ6h6MvRNhXwa8c2jeBL0qLY90_hwR-nGvCE

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                            @gt12 I agree with everything he said tbh. @Tim makes a good point though. Should we be playing with that structure if we don't have the right players to play with it? I do look forward to seeing MacDonald's recruitment in the off season as he virtually gets a free pass this year.

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                              This article highlights why Parsons should never have been re signed ,he’s like the bad stench that’s coming from a part of the house and it’s gonna take another 2 years to find..
                              What makes him harder to move on is the fact he’s on the leadership team which almost borders on nepotism with nobody else getting crack regardless of how he plays.
                              On the radio sport show he appears on,he spoke about the Blues having more depth and competition for places apart from hooker me thinks.
                              however the article does empathise there is an issue in terms of fitness when fatigue sets in,decision making becomes sloppy.

                              With Melani Nanai off contract next year,I would the Blues to have crack at a fullback who has got a big boot than can at least carve off good metres when clearing from the red zone..
                              The chiefs used James Lowes really well as kicking option when clearing the 22..one person that comes to mind is David Havili,with so much competition at the Crusaders in the back 3,I would love to see the Blues have a crack at Havili
                              Sean Stephenson has a big boot,but my concern is the flakyness of the Harbour player.

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                                This article highlights why Parsons should never have been re signed ,he’s like the bad stench that’s coming from a part of the house and it’s gonna take another 2 years to find..
                                What makes him harder to move on is the fact he’s on the leadership team which almost borders on nepotism with nobody else getting crack regardless of how he plays.
                                On the radio sport show he appears on,he spoke about the Blues having more depth and competition for places apart from hooker me thinks.
                                however the article does empathise there is an issue in terms of fitness when fatigue sets in,decision making becomes sloppy.

                                With Melani Nanai off contract next year,I would the Blues to have crack at a fullback who has got a big boot than can at least carve off good metres when clearing from the red zone..
                                The chiefs used James Lowes really well as kicking option when clearing the 22..one person that comes to mind is David Havili,with so much competition at the Crusaders in the back 3,I would love to see the Blues have a crack at Havili
                                Sean Stephenson has a big boot,but my concern is the flakyness of the Harbour player.

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                                Duluth
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                                #1567

                                @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2019:

                                With Melani Nanai off contract next year,I would the Blues to have crack at a fullback who has got a big boot than can at least carve off good metres when clearing from the red zone..

                                Two injuries haven't helped the kicking game from the back. The starting fullback was probably going to be Perofeta, with Trainor backing him up.

                                Trainor has been erratic until the 2018 season with Auckland.. he may have turned the corner

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                                  What's the deal with Trainor's injury? He's been out all season. His best shot to get into the game day team was these last couple of games with SBW and Telea out. Hopefully he gets an opportunity at some point, we need to see if he can kick on at this level.

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                                  • DiceD Dice

                                    What's the deal with Trainor's injury? He's been out all season. His best shot to get into the game day team was these last couple of games with SBW and Telea out. Hopefully he gets an opportunity at some point, we need to see if he can kick on at this level.

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                                    @Dice I think it was multiple injuries. I think he got injured again after recovering from the first injury.

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                                      Tim
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                                      #1570

                                      Now that Harris and Coltman are off the market, the following are still available:

                                      Abel (Rebels)
                                      Sosene-Feagai (Blues dev, Auckland)
                                      Eklund (still playing?)
                                      Tolai (Blues dev, Harbour)
                                      Olsen (Northland)
                                      Taukei'aho (Chiefs)
                                      Makalio (Crusaders)
                                      Funnell (Crusaders)
                                      Pleasants-Tate (ehhhh, Southland)

                                      Not interested in:

                                      Niuia
                                      O'Reilly

                                      Any NPC players worth looking at? Will Apisai develop further?

                                      Probably the three most promising are Abel, Taukei'aho, and Makalio. Either of Abel or Makalio starting, with Taukei'aho off the bench.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        Now that Harris and Coltman are off the market, the following are still available:

                                        Abel (Rebels)
                                        Sosene-Feagai (Blues dev, Auckland)
                                        Eklund (still playing?)
                                        Tolai (Blues dev, Harbour)
                                        Olsen (Northland)
                                        Taukei'aho (Chiefs)
                                        Makalio (Crusaders)
                                        Funnell (Crusaders)
                                        Pleasants-Tate (ehhhh, Southland)

                                        Not interested in:

                                        Niuia
                                        O'Reilly

                                        Any NPC players worth looking at? Will Apisai develop further?

                                        Probably the three most promising are Abel, Taukei'aho, and Makalio. Either of Abel or Makalio starting, with Taukei'aho off the bench.

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                                        Canes4life
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                                        @Tim has Riccitelli been snapped up?

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @Tim has Riccitelli been snapped up?

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                                          @Canes4life Yeah, all three Hurricanes hookers will be back next year.

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