Blues 2019
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Midfield is also going to be an issue next season. Faiane, Tele'a, and Ioane are the signed centre options, with Faiane and Plummer covering 12. I guess that Clarke may be able to play 13 too.
Who's available next year?
Tumua Manu (Chiefs)
Bailyn Sullivan (Chiefs)
Orbyn Leger (Chiefs)
Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs dev, Waikato)
Jack Goodhue (dreaming, Crusaders)
Braydon Ennor (Crusaders)
Rob Thompson (Highlanders)
Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Highlanders)
Jonah Lowe (Hurricanes)
Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
Michael Little (probably on too much cash in Japan)
Thomas Aoake (Blues dev, Ta$man)
Tamati Tua (Northland, former Blues)
Scott Gregory (Northland, Blues dev)
Blake Hohaia (Northland)
Harrison Groundwater (Harbour)
Loketi Manu (Harbour)Of the realistic options, Manu would be first choice. Would love to get Little to share 12 with Faiane, and Ennor to play at 13. Leger is still promising at 12. Scott Gregory is likely to be the U20 player that gets signed?
There's going to be a lot of promising midfield backs on display in the NPC. Matt Johnson might be up at Northland too. Really looking forward to that competition. Anyone know who's likely to play for Ta$man?
@Tim we might have a good chance of signing Manu with the Chiefs needing to find a spot for Quin Tupaea.
Scott Gregory is a must. He has massive potential and looked really good for Northland last year.
I’m looking forward to seeing Tomas Aoake play for Harbour this year, hopefully he has a good season and can get selected for the Blues. He can cover center, wing and fullback which will be good value for us.
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@Tim we might have a good chance of signing Manu with the Chiefs needing to find a spot for Quin Tupaea.
Scott Gregory is a must. He has massive potential and looked really good for Northland last year.
I’m looking forward to seeing Tomas Aoake play for Harbour this year, hopefully he has a good season and can get selected for the Blues. He can cover center, wing and fullback which will be good value for us.
Could Nonu go again in 2020??@shack pretty sure Scott Gregory will be signed for next year unless he sticks with 7s? Covers midfield and back 3 if needed. Blues are big on him. Has come right through their development programme right from U16s so should be a priority signing for them. Agree re Aoake.
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James Parsons has plenty of professional rugby experience, having achieved the rare double of earning over 100 caps at both provincial and Super Rugby level. The last player to do this was Caleb Ralph, who hasn’t played Super Rugby in eight years. It’s Parsons’ considerable experience that has seen him earn a pair of caps for New Zealand, against Scotland in 2014 and Australia in 2016. At 32 years of age, he’s also on par with Coles as being the oldest of New Zealand’s current crop of hookers. Beyond experience, however, Parsons is simply a grafter, willing to do whatever job is required on the rugby field. It’s therefore no major surprise to see Parsons show up as middle of the pack in many stats – he does a bit of everything but doesn’t particularly excel in any facet of the game. He touches the ball often – second only to Taylor – but doesn’t make a lot of ground when in possession, nor does he bust many tackles. Parsons also makes the fewest tackles of New Zealand’s hookers – and is shrugged off by opposition more often. The Blues lineout also operates at only 84% when Parsons is throwing the ball into the lineout. Overall, Parsons’ stats are fairly underwhelming. He tends to get involved in a wide range of areas of the game but is fairly ineffective at what he does. He’s been capped by New Zealand before and could be a worthy squad member, if only for his experience, but the other hookers at the All Blacks’ disposal have considerably more upsides.https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-watch-how-are-new-zealands-hookers-faring-in-super-rugby
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@Tim we might have a good chance of signing Manu with the Chiefs needing to find a spot for Quin Tupaea.
Scott Gregory is a must. He has massive potential and looked really good for Northland last year.
I’m looking forward to seeing Tomas Aoake play for Harbour this year, hopefully he has a good season and can get selected for the Blues. He can cover center, wing and fullback which will be good value for us.
Could Nonu go again in 2020?? -
James Parsons has plenty of professional rugby experience, having achieved the rare double of earning over 100 caps at both provincial and Super Rugby level. The last player to do this was Caleb Ralph, who hasn’t played Super Rugby in eight years. It’s Parsons’ considerable experience that has seen him earn a pair of caps for New Zealand, against Scotland in 2014 and Australia in 2016. At 32 years of age, he’s also on par with Coles as being the oldest of New Zealand’s current crop of hookers. Beyond experience, however, Parsons is simply a grafter, willing to do whatever job is required on the rugby field. It’s therefore no major surprise to see Parsons show up as middle of the pack in many stats – he does a bit of everything but doesn’t particularly excel in any facet of the game. He touches the ball often – second only to Taylor – but doesn’t make a lot of ground when in possession, nor does he bust many tackles. Parsons also makes the fewest tackles of New Zealand’s hookers – and is shrugged off by opposition more often. The Blues lineout also operates at only 84% when Parsons is throwing the ball into the lineout. Overall, Parsons’ stats are fairly underwhelming. He tends to get involved in a wide range of areas of the game but is fairly ineffective at what he does. He’s been capped by New Zealand before and could be a worthy squad member, if only for his experience, but the other hookers at the All Blacks’ disposal have considerably more upsides.https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-watch-how-are-new-zealands-hookers-faring-in-super-rugby
@Tim said in Blues 2019:
James Parsons has plenty of professional rugby experience, having achieved the rare double of earning over 100 caps at both provincial and Super Rugby level. The last player to do this was Caleb Ralph, who hasn’t played Super Rugby in eight years. It’s Parsons’ considerable experience that has seen him earn a pair of caps for New Zealand, against Scotland in 2014 and Australia in 2016. At 32 years of age, he’s also on par with Coles as being the oldest of New Zealand’s current crop of hookers. Beyond experience, however, Parsons is simply a grafter, willing to do whatever job is required on the rugby field. It’s therefore no major surprise to see Parsons show up as middle of the pack in many stats – he does a bit of everything **but doesn’t particularly excel in any facet of the game**. He touches the ball often – second only to Taylor – **but doesn’t make a lot of ground when in possession, nor does he bust many tackles.** **Parsons also makes the fewest tackles** of New Zealand’s hookers – **and is shrugged off by opposition more often**. The Blues lineout also operates at only 84% when Parsons is throwing the ball into the lineout. **Overall, Parsons’ stats are fairly underwhelming**. He tends to get involved in a wide range of areas of the game but **is fairly ineffective at what he does**. He’s been capped by New Zealand before and could be a worthy squad member, if only for his experience, but the other hookers at the All Blacks’ disposal have considerably more upsides.Why the fuck did we resign him??
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@Tim said in Blues 2019:
James Parsons has plenty of professional rugby experience, having achieved the rare double of earning over 100 caps at both provincial and Super Rugby level. The last player to do this was Caleb Ralph, who hasn’t played Super Rugby in eight years. It’s Parsons’ considerable experience that has seen him earn a pair of caps for New Zealand, against Scotland in 2014 and Australia in 2016. At 32 years of age, he’s also on par with Coles as being the oldest of New Zealand’s current crop of hookers. Beyond experience, however, Parsons is simply a grafter, willing to do whatever job is required on the rugby field. It’s therefore no major surprise to see Parsons show up as middle of the pack in many stats – he does a bit of everything **but doesn’t particularly excel in any facet of the game**. He touches the ball often – second only to Taylor – **but doesn’t make a lot of ground when in possession, nor does he bust many tackles.** **Parsons also makes the fewest tackles** of New Zealand’s hookers – **and is shrugged off by opposition more often**. The Blues lineout also operates at only 84% when Parsons is throwing the ball into the lineout. **Overall, Parsons’ stats are fairly underwhelming**. He tends to get involved in a wide range of areas of the game but **is fairly ineffective at what he does**. He’s been capped by New Zealand before and could be a worthy squad member, if only for his experience, but the other hookers at the All Blacks’ disposal have considerably more upsides.Why the fuck did we resign him??
@shack I ain't even a Blues fan and i'm disappointed that the Blues re-signed him. He has reached is ceiling and won't be getting any better i'm afraid - should go after Keruru-Symes & Abel moving forward.
It's annoying because like the Hurricanes experience with Coles in regards to their game going up a notch or two when they get him back into the side - I feel the same would happen if the Blues signed a better hooker, it's probably the polish they need to make the playoffs.
It's a shame the coaches can't see the obvious.
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@Tim said in Blues 2019:
James Parsons has plenty of professional rugby experience, having achieved the rare double of earning over 100 caps at both provincial and Super Rugby level. The last player to do this was Caleb Ralph, who hasn’t played Super Rugby in eight years. It’s Parsons’ considerable experience that has seen him earn a pair of caps for New Zealand, against Scotland in 2014 and Australia in 2016. At 32 years of age, he’s also on par with Coles as being the oldest of New Zealand’s current crop of hookers. Beyond experience, however, Parsons is simply a grafter, willing to do whatever job is required on the rugby field. It’s therefore no major surprise to see Parsons show up as middle of the pack in many stats – he does a bit of everything **but doesn’t particularly excel in any facet of the game**. He touches the ball often – second only to Taylor – **but doesn’t make a lot of ground when in possession, nor does he bust many tackles.** **Parsons also makes the fewest tackles** of New Zealand’s hookers – **and is shrugged off by opposition more often**. The Blues lineout also operates at only 84% when Parsons is throwing the ball into the lineout. **Overall, Parsons’ stats are fairly underwhelming**. He tends to get involved in a wide range of areas of the game but **is fairly ineffective at what he does**. He’s been capped by New Zealand before and could be a worthy squad member, if only for his experience, but the other hookers at the All Blacks’ disposal have considerably more upsides.Why the fuck did we resign him??
@shack said in Blues 2019:
@Tim said in Blues 2019:
James Parsons has plenty of professional rugby experience, having achieved the rare double of earning over 100 caps at both provincial and Super Rugby level. The last player to do this was Caleb Ralph, who hasn’t played Super Rugby in eight years. It’s Parsons’ considerable experience that has seen him earn a pair of caps for New Zealand, against Scotland in 2014 and Australia in 2016. At 32 years of age, he’s also on par with Coles as being the oldest of New Zealand’s current crop of hookers. Beyond experience, however, Parsons is simply a grafter, willing to do whatever job is required on the rugby field. It’s therefore no major surprise to see Parsons show up as middle of the pack in many stats – he does a bit of everything **but doesn’t particularly excel in any facet of the game**. He touches the ball often – second only to Taylor – **but doesn’t make a lot of ground when in possession, nor does he bust many tackles.** **Parsons also makes the fewest tackles** of New Zealand’s hookers – **and is shrugged off by opposition more often**. The Blues lineout also operates at only 84% when Parsons is throwing the ball into the lineout. **Overall, Parsons’ stats are fairly underwhelming**. He tends to get involved in a wide range of areas of the game but **is fairly ineffective at what he does**. He’s been capped by New Zealand before and could be a worthy squad member, if only for his experience, but the other hookers at the All Blacks’ disposal have considerably more upsides.Why the fuck did we resign him??
I'm ok with having him in the squad. An old dog setting standards and guiding younger blokes is sweet as. There problem is he's playing as our number one, two and three hooker.
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@shack said in Blues 2019:
@Tim said in Blues 2019:
James Parsons has plenty of professional rugby experience, having achieved the rare double of earning over 100 caps at both provincial and Super Rugby level. The last player to do this was Caleb Ralph, who hasn’t played Super Rugby in eight years. It’s Parsons’ considerable experience that has seen him earn a pair of caps for New Zealand, against Scotland in 2014 and Australia in 2016. At 32 years of age, he’s also on par with Coles as being the oldest of New Zealand’s current crop of hookers. Beyond experience, however, Parsons is simply a grafter, willing to do whatever job is required on the rugby field. It’s therefore no major surprise to see Parsons show up as middle of the pack in many stats – he does a bit of everything **but doesn’t particularly excel in any facet of the game**. He touches the ball often – second only to Taylor – **but doesn’t make a lot of ground when in possession, nor does he bust many tackles.** **Parsons also makes the fewest tackles** of New Zealand’s hookers – **and is shrugged off by opposition more often**. The Blues lineout also operates at only 84% when Parsons is throwing the ball into the lineout. **Overall, Parsons’ stats are fairly underwhelming**. He tends to get involved in a wide range of areas of the game but **is fairly ineffective at what he does**. He’s been capped by New Zealand before and could be a worthy squad member, if only for his experience, but the other hookers at the All Blacks’ disposal have considerably more upsides.Why the fuck did we resign him??
I'm ok with having him in the squad. An old dog setting standards and guiding younger blokes is sweet as. There problem is he's playing as our number one, two and three hooker.
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@nzzp fair call. You can't really call Apisai quality can yah.
@Canes4life said in Blues 2019:
@nzzp fair call. You can't really call Apisai quality can yah.
A lot is going to ride on Leon's ability to get some players that he wants, and that are good or can become good. Right now it's a poorly selected squad that he's inherited
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@Canes4life said in Blues 2019:
@nzzp fair call. You can't really call Apisai quality can yah.
A lot is going to ride on Leon's ability to get some players that he wants, and that are good or can become good. Right now it's a poorly selected squad that he's inherited
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@nzzp yet Leon re-signed James...he signed a few players at the back end of 2018 too.
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James Parsons has plenty of professional rugby experience, having achieved the rare double of earning over 100 caps at both provincial and Super Rugby level. The last player to do this was Caleb Ralph, who hasn’t played Super Rugby in eight years. It’s Parsons’ considerable experience that has seen him earn a pair of caps for New Zealand, against Scotland in 2014 and Australia in 2016. At 32 years of age, he’s also on par with Coles as being the oldest of New Zealand’s current crop of hookers. Beyond experience, however, Parsons is simply a grafter, willing to do whatever job is required on the rugby field. It’s therefore no major surprise to see Parsons show up as middle of the pack in many stats – he does a bit of everything but doesn’t particularly excel in any facet of the game. He touches the ball often – second only to Taylor – but doesn’t make a lot of ground when in possession, nor does he bust many tackles. Parsons also makes the fewest tackles of New Zealand’s hookers – and is shrugged off by opposition more often. The Blues lineout also operates at only 84% when Parsons is throwing the ball into the lineout. Overall, Parsons’ stats are fairly underwhelming. He tends to get involved in a wide range of areas of the game but is fairly ineffective at what he does. He’s been capped by New Zealand before and could be a worthy squad member, if only for his experience, but the other hookers at the All Blacks’ disposal have considerably more upsides.https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-watch-how-are-new-zealands-hookers-faring-in-super-rugby
@Tim That's a very polite way of saying he's shit and it's baffling how he ever got capped.
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@taniwharugby any nudge on who he signed?
@nzzp well maybe not specifically Leon but youd have hoped guys signed at the end of M10 cup were done with his involvement.
There were several spots still open after his appointment (well given the process probably started early in 2018) last year so surely he was involved in any signings from here.
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@shack I ain't even a Blues fan and i'm disappointed that the Blues re-signed him. He has reached is ceiling and won't be getting any better i'm afraid - should go after Keruru-Symes & Abel moving forward.
It's annoying because like the Hurricanes experience with Coles in regards to their game going up a notch or two when they get him back into the side - I feel the same would happen if the Blues signed a better hooker, it's probably the polish they need to make the playoffs.
It's a shame the coaches can't see the obvious.
@Canes4life said in Blues 2019:
should go after Keruru-Symes & Abel moving forward.
Being realistic, those are my two pics aswell. We need to get the best up and coming hooker into our squad ASAP.
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@Tim we might have a good chance of signing Manu with the Chiefs needing to find a spot for Quin Tupaea.
Scott Gregory is a must. He has massive potential and looked really good for Northland last year.
I’m looking forward to seeing Tomas Aoake play for Harbour this year, hopefully he has a good season and can get selected for the Blues. He can cover center, wing and fullback which will be good value for us.
Could Nonu go again in 2020?? -
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Well that’s good that Leon has cut him if he’s not going to play him. Hope that means we have someone lined up. Abel?
@Kirwan said in Blues 2019:
Well that’s good that Leon has cut him if he’s not going to play him. Hope that means we have someone lined up. Abel?
Abel would be an improvement. Career best form for Auckland in 2018 and he's mostly continued that form for the Rebels, although he is stuck behind Rangi
Leni Apisai should make the 23 ahead of Moulds for the next few weeks at least. We need to have a look to see if he's worth keeping (..he's probably not)
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@Canes4life said in Blues 2019:
@nzzp fair call. You can't really call Apisai quality can yah.
A lot is going to ride on Leon's ability to get some players that he wants, and that are good or can become good. Right now it's a poorly selected squad that he's inherited
@nzzp said in Blues 2019:
@Canes4life said in Blues 2019:
@nzzp fair call. You can't really call Apisai quality can yah.
A lot is going to ride on Leon's ability to get some players that he wants, and that are good or can become good. Right now it's a poorly selected squad that he's inherited
He was a part of the coaching staff that recruited this squad - particularly in the WTG. Yes Tana led the show but there is nothing to indicate he ran a dictatorship. MacDonald will have been on the Blues payroll for a year in two weeks - if he was not scouting and presenting compelling arguments for signings from day one (particularly around the fringes) then I have limited faith in his ability to do so now he has the reigns.
In both MacDonald and Umaga's defence the final year of the RWC cycle is the worst year to recruit, and the first year the best. So it will be curious to see what miracles he will be able to perform in the next two months.
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@nzzp said in Blues 2019:
@Canes4life said in Blues 2019:
@nzzp fair call. You can't really call Apisai quality can yah.
A lot is going to ride on Leon's ability to get some players that he wants, and that are good or can become good. Right now it's a poorly selected squad that he's inherited
He was a part of the coaching staff that recruited this squad - particularly in the WTG. Yes Tana led the show but there is nothing to indicate he ran a dictatorship. MacDonald will have been on the Blues payroll for a year in two weeks - if he was not scouting and presenting compelling arguments for signings from day one (particularly around the fringes) then I have limited faith in his ability to do so now he has the reigns.
In both MacDonald and Umaga's defence the final year of the RWC cycle is the worst year to recruit, and the first year the best. So it will be curious to see what miracles he will be able to perform in the next two months.
